How did isekai became so big

Well. I like "Tom Sawyer". dude don't mess it up

 

Well there is actually no such thing as meaningful discussion. It is just a form of small talk whether to burn time or to see if you can see any memorable comments. Whatever we discussed doesn't affect anything. Books are already written and published anyway.
PS : i silently hate you

 

Nah. There are tons of terrible writers who are popular. Hell, Kawahara Reki even recognized that he's not a very good writer and recently vowed to improve. Another thing I'll say about the guy is that he puts in more effort into developing believable worlds than the isekai writers to follow him.

Sure, but it's easy to notice when the writer does things like not using proper paragraphs.

Yes, but this usually only happens when a story does something that is new and the reviewer doesn't have the proper tools to examine it. So a better example in this case would be films like Fight Club or 2001.

Oh, and Ebert never had to recant his Titanic review because he loved the film when he saw it. You may be thinking about the negativity surrounding the film before it came out instead.

 

I must have been thinking of another review. He had quite a number of duds.
My point still stands, not every movie has to have masterpiece storytelling.
Some stories are so bad that they are good, enjoyable and popular.
A good story standard just like reviews is subjective.
Some stories are simply guilty pleasures or for a non standard target audience.

 

Japanese language seems to use a lot more paragraphs than English or Russian.

 

Some people just can't commit to new genres. Just like with music or tv shows, people would rather rewatch a whole series of sitcoms than find something new.

Xianxias and Wuxias are basically the same with their weak to strong plot and deux ex machina cheats.

Munpias with their game like interface, broken power scale and rushed ending.

Japanese Isekais with beta male whiny pu-C's and OP power, but they have to hide it just because.

Romance novels with their CEO rapist prince charming.

2nd chance gaming novels that otakus love so much as a form of escapism.

I could go on and on, and all of these may seem different... But that's only true in the beginning, these genres will all meet at some point then follow the same skeleton afterwards. Fame, Wealth, Luck, Harems etc. They will all get it. Then readers would feel happy for yet, another happy face slapping. At the end of the day, we only fool ourselves that we're in for it because of the story. Most of fictional WN/LNs are nothing but a form of escapism from our boring, stagnant lives.

 

Well, not unless the chinese slaps you with the reality they input in their novels about chinese supremism.

 

That's true in any material comparing their own Nation to others. It's just more prevalent to CN works because they don't have any originality so they use Nationalism to attract readers.

 

Just because people want to escape the reality for temporary,Isekai novel satisfied it.
And it is simple to put readers themselves into MC,even have thought like “I can do better than MC！”
Like a day dream，everybody knows it impossible and the whole story sucks
But we all love it as we love the porn for needs
XD

 

It's wish fulfillment. It's poorly written, often contrived, but people read isekai because they hate living in this world and like the thought of going somewhere and doing something new, surrounded by strangers and not the strangers at home (hence why the protag is usually the ostracized type. If they were loved, being taken from the world is a tragedy). My recommendation for cutting out the cardboard cutout trash is to remove any stories with 'harem' in the tag, because those are rarely any good. Also avoid stories where there's an extremely cute girl on the cover of a story where a man is the protagonist but not to be seen. If you have to sell it with cuteness or sex appeal, the protagonist is shit and can't sell himself to the reader, a surefire sign the story isn't any good.
Here's a couple stories I liked: Trash of the Count's Family (technically a transmigration, but the line is thin so who cares, slowly becomes stronger, a manipulative, beautiful ba$tard that only has his brain as a starting cheat, and the side characters, who are actually mostly male and in some cases dragon ((an innocent, non-transforming, non-sexualized dragon, oh, my!)), grow with him), The Man Picked Up by the Gods (slice of life, sure, but it does have it's perils and it's still not the stereotypical isekai-with-harem. I also like the slime-raising aspects) and Instant Death (things get pretty funny when the MC is overpowered before even arriving, and his personality and the presence of a classmate riding his coattails negates the possibility of a harem. There's also twists like nearly all the classmates having special abilities from being transported to other worlds before, meaning this type of thing is relatively common and the kids aren't actually special in the end.)
If you only give one of these a shot, then Trash of the Count's Family is my recommendation.

 

It's not the harem that is bad it's the fact that they can't fucking write something readable

 

You think that is bad, what if I told you that there is an even worse genre, where peerless geniuses reviwe or go back in time.

So not only are they Above everyone else since they have their own Milion yr old library of knowledge, they find every single godlike artifact that has ever existed. MMM mmm mmm bs with a cherry on top.

Enjoy.

I'd rather take an another academy over a peerless genius. At very fucking least there's a degree of difficulty competing with other people and other academies.
However I don't read ANY japanese material, I hate the MC's in those and the harems also.

Chinese Harems are the funniest:
MC: "Hey bitch you're mine.!"
Girl: "Hmmmmmm...ok."
ME: WTF???????????

I like Reverent Insanity for instance , because it has completely different focus than simply "just getting stronger" and getting more lolibitches.
It's more about how MC lies and tricks people. So even tho it has all of the cliches it's not really a cookie cutter story.

 

Isekai was a mistake, need we say more?

 

As was anime.

 

Lol this is great. I can almost hear you saying all these.

 

Alice in Wonderland was a mistake??? Wizard of Oz? Narnia?
Isekai is pretty much just portal fantasy rebranded with a new name (and a few new tropes), just more recently popular so it is drawing in more of the bad writers trying to cash in on trends.

 

I agree that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the idea of isekai novels. There are tons of good ones out there, albeit these books are very different from the ones that we normally think about. However, I don't think that the main problem is that there are a lot of bad writers writing isekai novels. It's more that good writers have largely abandoned the genre and that their replacements don't seem to care about improving their craft.

 

Or is it that as time goes on, people began to know the trope of isekais and had become more choosing of their options. The more isekais that are showing up, the more congested the market is. You wouldn't have understood isekai if all you are presented with just "another world". It's the repetition of the trope that is basically destroying it. @MarxDarkBear comment is right and I agree with him, but that doesn't mean it's completely correct. The concept of isekai is being able to build a world of your own, that's what makes it popular. But it's popularness leads to most of isekai novels we know of nowadays, all with the beta MCs who can't get a grip of themselves and the stupid goddesses who pick kids as heroes. If writers had the patience of building a world of his own, then I'd bet that it'd be a good isekai in itself, though I would still consider the story if I would read it. I doubt that'd happen though because it would, in the end, be the same with other isekais one way or another. Because the ideas of isekais have become too congested.

 

Narnia is Harry Potter/Twilight/Hunger Games levels of trash tho.

 

Thought this YouTuber critic lampooning isekai was pretty hilarious. Isekaitis =)