Spoiler I Failed To Abandon the Villain

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  1. Villainess_lovers

    Villainess_lovers Well-Known Member

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    can anyone spoil me what happen with the imperial palace? is greedy emperor got his karma? maybe chapter in novel? oh god i hate him so much:notlikeblob::blobangery::blob_thor:
     
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    Its around chapter 113 0f the novel. Where she mouth-fed him a potion while he was unconscious. When he woke up, both he and valleta were on the bed and he said something like "the potion wasnt absorbed properly" and just straight ahead went for it. He was about to take things further when valleta stopped him and made a slip saying "it wasnt her 1stkiss" he was about to go mad but she said "no,no youre my first" and then he calmed down.
     
  3. 2D boys is the best

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    Is there 2ndML?

    Give me some spoiler about Caspelios
     
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    There is a Crown Prince which Valleta is/was engaged but I don't consider him as a 2nd ML.
     
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    It has been three years since Reinhardt and Valletta were named king and queen, and many changes have taken place during that time. The moment he said that he would move the Wizard's Tower, there was a big backlash within the Sky Island and Magic Tower. A big fight broke out between the opinion that it could never be mixed with Sokor and the opinion that it would not be bad to lay a new foundation. Of course, with Reinhardt's gesture, all opinions came together. In any case, their lives were more important than their pride. Most of the people whose opinions mattered more than their own lives did not react to Reinhardt's words, so it was only natural. Contrary to what I thought it would take quite a long time, the Resol Kingdom was taken over in an instant. The people of the Resol Kingdom did not hate the wizard more than they thought. Surprisingly, even the wizard had a little less resistance to the people of the Resol Kingdom than the general Sokor. Perhaps it was because they were engaged in a job related to the same magic. Reinhardt ascended the throne and the country lost its ranks. Reinhardt eliminated all classes and expelled the nobles. If there were some nobles who wanted to remain in the kingdom even as commoners, they would grant permission, but most could not give up their titles. As a result, most of them were robbed and kicked out. As soon as Carlon Delphine and Duke Leon heard the news, they ran to them and grabbed them by the collar and shook them. Valletta and Reinhardt had no choice but to stand still, dumbfounded, because they didn't know that the two docile people would grab each other by the neck. Reinhardt made a pact with the Empire through Carlon Delphine. There was no reason to be hostile to them in the first place. It was the day the world's first class and title-free, special wizard country was created. As the kingdom changed its owner, the name also changed. It was <Kingdom of Vallain>. The meaning of the name is… … . The Wizard's Tower was built by humans, so let's ask them. There are kings and queens, but no ranks. It was a strange and unique country where there were civil servants who worked without titles. Of course, it wasn't welcomed everywhere, but the technicians and the wizards in the tower were so good that they were producing results here and there. In particular, most of the results of wizards and mana stone technicians were difficult to imitate in other countries. In any case, the country began to develop rapidly. It was a remarkable achievement that there are very few countries that do not have exchanges after only one year. It was thanks to Reinhardt's overwhelming power and the skills of the realm's engineers and magic tower wizards.

    There are two dukes in the empire, Carlon Delphine and Leon. Carlon was born in the aristocratic family and Leon was a self-made man. Leon was bestowed the Duke title due to his contribution. He was described as 10 years younger than Carlon. Both of the Dukes act as Valletta’s guardians.

    They will stay alive till the end. Duke Leon was supposed to die in the original timeline.

    Crown Prince was someone who loves justice but too naive. He judged everything according to his standards. He didn’t know anything that happened in the empire and easily manipulated by the Emperor. The main antagonist of this novel is the Emperor.

    Both Reinhardt and Valletta will gradually learn how to ask for help from others and improve their communication skills with people around them. A lot of good people will assist them to overcome their trauma and be the best of themselves.

    In the beginning, Valletta couldn’t even feel angry or happy. She was afraid with attachment and commitment to anything caused by her father, therefore, she even wasn’t able to call anyone’s name. Over time, she will learn how to respect herself and open her heart to others, as well as telling other what she likes or dislikes and understanding that she can change her own destiny. Later, she will raise a cute pet (given by the Duke) to grow her compassion.

    Every time Reinhardt and Valletta did or said something that was considered to be peculiar, the closest people around them would address it directly, though most of them were so frustrated with their antics.

    This novel is one of a kind and I personally like it, especially its complex plot and development. ML himself isn’t a prince charming but a complex individual and doesn’t afraid to show his vulnerable side to MC. Personally, reading this story is like walking through a dark tunnel towards the light at the end. When the plot thickens, everything will fall into place.
     
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    1st kiss (besides forehead and hand kisses, which are plentiful) happens in chapter 81 of the novel.

    Valleta is asleep and witnessing events from the original book storyline again.
    Before this, she also witnessed a few other events from the original as if she were a ghostly spectator while asleep, these included:

    OG Valleta's treatment of Reinhardt.
    Unimportant, talentless, and lonely OG Valleta had latched on to Reinhardt like a possessive parasite. Our Valleta watches as the OG Valleta crushes the heart-bead as she makes paranoid accusations about Reinhardt sneaking around with a maid she saw him talk to a single time. Though in excruciating agony, Reinhardt smiles through the pain to assure her he loves her and only her. She finally stops both hurting him and her shriekish, jealous accusations and demands promises he will never leave her and never love anything but her, which he agrees to and embraces her.

    It is very clear that OG Valleta has been using Reinhardt as a boyfriend experience sex slave.

    Our Valleta notices Reinhardt's simmering rage under his smile, and acknowledges that the OG Valleta deserved to be killed in the massacre. Before, she had been going off of scraps remembered from the book, and was confused as to why Reinhardt would have killed OG Valleta who loved him, since she treated him well and pampered him. Now that she knows OG Valleta was sexually and emotionally abusive, and the execution deserved, our Valletta feels safer and more confident Reinhardt won't harm or kill her.

    Reinhardt discovering Therion, the OG hero.
    After the Delight massacre and obtaining his rightful position as Tower Lord, Reinhardt visits Duke Delight's "Nurturing Rooms", where Duke Delight broke his slaves using misery, pain, and a drugged up cocktail of narcotic hallucinagenics.

    With the Duke dead, the cages and cages of people in the secret Nurturing Rooms were abandoned to starve to death. Reinhardt quickly kills every slave in the cages, until the place is filled with blood, but spares one child, Therion. From Therion's point of view, the insane Reinhardt slaughtered everyone and spared him for no reason but to be cruel. Therion hates Reinhardt and vows vengeance will be his life's work. Reinhardt smiles and tells the boy to work hard, thus establishing his role in the novel as the 'villain' who pops in to torment the hero.

    Valleta knows that wizards can recognize other, un-awoken wizards, and won't (can't?) kill the children. Young Therion, who is about 10 years old, is an unawoken wizard, explaining why Reinhardt spared him. Valleta watching this acknowledges that, though it may not have looked like it from the outside to the book reader or even Therion, Reinhardt had actually been mercy-killing the slaves. They were too broken to live normally again, and too harmed to be fixed, so she (and Reinhardt) think that they themselves would have preferred being killed in such a situation over living, and would have been grateful for death, which Reinhardt had delivered swiftly, and while they were still drugged.
    Valleta is watching the final scene with Reinhardt from the book.

    After destabilizing the Magic Tower, killing wizards who disagreed with him, and the massacres of multiple entire villages, Reinhardt was sealed away by Bennio (the head-wizard who acted as the temporary Tower Lord for 30 years while the seat was vacant and waiting for Reinhardt. Bennio was a popular, competent leader and very dedicated to the Magic Tower) and the other wizards of the tower.

    After years of being sealed away, Reinhardt emerges even more powerful. He was taught by the Tower Watchdog (Cephalus? Callinus? don't recall his name) while trapped, and has transcended to a higher plane of being. The escaped Reinhardt overthrows Bennio and then seemingly "transcends", exiting the book, which then focused on the hero, Therion, helping the Crown Prince Milrode overthrow the evil Emperor, stopping the zombie apocalypse, and then settling down with his love interest.

    Valleta follows what happens after the scene. Reinhardt doesn't disappear, but goes to the Sky Room at the top of the tower.

    The transcended Reinhardt then, shockingly, acknowledges her presence in the room, watching him and tells her to stop hiding and show herself.

    He calls her a "Wanderer" who can send their spirit wandering, though their bodies stay in one place. Reinhardt tries to intimidate her, since she's an intruder, yet she treats him like he's the normal Reinhardt who does crap like this all the time, because he does.

    He stops choking her and carries her to sit on the bed to comfort her and catch her breath after she calls him by name and treats him like a normal human, which stuns him and makes him want more attention from her.
    He then murmers "It's been a long time since I've seen you, I'm trying to remember" and then kisses her while kneeling in front of her as she sits on the bed. The sippy-kisses turn into full on snogging with tongue and he stands up, cups the back of her head, and goes to town.

    He's as satisfied as the Cheshire cat, and she's startled, turned on, and attempting to retreat a bit. Which retreat, well, results in her ending stretched out on the bed, pinned in place by a knee between her legs, and desperately trying to catch a breath in between kisses.

    He sneaks a hand between a gap in her clothes and she bites him in warning.

    He slows down and stops, then says “I asked who you were, but you wouldn’t answer, so I just took the liberty of looking it up. Were you mine from a different world?”

    He sits back on the floor next to the bed and asks if she's Valetta/ "Master" in a way which implies, to me, that he knows she's not the OG Valetta, and may have been doing some form of reading her to "look up" that knowledge as part of the snogging.

    Valetta gets irked when he pokes her with the intuitive tidbit that he's picked up that she doesn't like it when he calls her by her first name, because she's afraid she'll get attached. She roughly grabs his collar and tells him to shut it when he teases that she seems more than attached already...

    Being treated like normal, rather than the ticking time bomb he is, is, of course, Reinhardt's cat nip, and he kisses her some more.

    They have a small exchange wherein Reinhardt and Valetta banter a bit about him vs. other him. Reinhardt (and Valetta, just a bit) postulate that this is a dream, so there is no cost to kissing this Reinhardt in the real world, and Valetta notes that this Reinhardt has an even smaller sense of morality than her Reinhardt. Reinhardt asks if he isn't good enough, compared to his other, and presses for more kissing based on the premise that he and other Reinhardts are the same person, and that he and Valetta are the same person.

    Reinhardt then walks to the windows of the Sky Room and muses that all he sees below is nothing but a world he'll never belong to. The only world he's allowed to have is the Sky Room. Then he says that, holding her, it feels like he has an entire, other world in his hands.

    Reinhardt is going to Reinhardt, so he ruins the philosophical romance of the mood by approaching and asking “Before you leave….would you like to do it? I’m confident I can be gentle with you.”

    Then the wording gets a bit ambiguous, and could be interpreted in a quite a few ways.
    So, that could be Reinhardt groping her a bit and convincing her it won't matter if the have sex, because it's a dream, and then they do it "until the end" while she's a bit awkward and Reinhardt is a bit laughing. Or it could be that nothing happened at all, Reinhardt is just laughing at her reaction to his question and she wakes up. Or maybe something in the middle, where he groped her a bit, to her titillated shock.
    They really do not go into it in later chapters, except to say that Valletta becomes almost hyper-aware and seriously turned on around Reinhardt when she wakes up.

    After this dream, Valletta realizes several things about the OG Reinhardt, such as he had been aware of who had been massacring the towns, and that, though it may not seem like it, all of Reinhardt's taunting and prodding of the hero were for the hero's own benefit and growth. Without Reinhardt popping in to torment Therion to drive him forward, Therion would not have been strong enough to overthrow the evil Emperor. Plus, Reinhardt would also show Therion some of the atrocities the Emperor committed in a casual, bye the bye way.

    In this way OG Reinhardt had wound Therion up and aimed him at the Emperor, guiding him along the path, because OG Reinhardt had no one to rely on, trust, or help him, and he never unlearned those traits. Valletta is a touch sad and remorseful (as much as she can be) that this OG Reinhardt will forever be a lone and have no one to understand him, making her a touch more grateful to her own Reinhardt, even with the whole Heathcliff and Cathy "I am Heathcliff!" vibe he's got going on.
     
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  7. Manhwa fan

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    Reinhardt n the webtoon is a bit a creep for the most part in my opinion. He seduces Valletta in any way possible to make her like him.
     
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    Other cute moments include the fact that Valletta never, ever dries her hair after bathing, because she always assumes Reinhardt will do it for her...which he happily claims as his job on multiple occasions.

    And there is a very funny scene in chapter 95 when the two of them are checking into an Inn in the town they believe will be the next victim of massacre/ the "Lost" disease + zombies. Valletta is exhausted and has a migraine, so Reinhardt is dealing with the front desk staff, who are all swoony at his hotness. He declares (quite loud and proud) that they only need one bed for the week.

    The super well trained staff are like "Ah, of course, and we also provide additional "supplies", would you like some?" And Reinhardt is very I have no idea what that is, but they said it's free, so
    "Heck yes, we'd like these 'supplies' if they're good!" and then stands there, getting more and more confused as the staff start giving instructions like "Please wrap all used supplies in paper for disposal" "We offer 24 hour cleaning services, as many times as you like, for a small additional fee." "We have additional 'couple's services' on offer"

    The mortification eventually pierces the veil of Valletta's brain fog as she realizes they're talking about condoms. Before she can say "no need", Reinhardt hugs her in front of everyone, tips the staff generously, and sweeps her off to the room with a whole handful of "supplies" and a cheeky promise that "You can look forward to it, Master."

    The next day, he plays at having No Idea what lube or condoms are, just to get a rise out of her, which then devolves into the less light-hearted discussion on why the super-sheltered Valletta, who was barely taught anything, knows what condoms and lube are (her dad is gross and expected her to use Reinhardt as a sex slave), and she apologizes for being unable to save Reinhardt when her father attempted (very probably succeeded?) in "educating" Reinhardt on his duties as a sex slave shortly before her 20th birthday (which was a big part in why her father's death was drawn out so much).
     
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    I don't know the final ending, as I've only been able to find up to chapter 111.

    Crap learned about the Emperor so far:

    Emperor Cain managed to convince the Crown Prince that forceful control of Valetta is "for her own good" and the good of the country, by dangling the delights of having the wife he loves eventually becoming grateful and loving to him, the image of "saving" her from the bad guys and her being happy about it, and all the many people of his country he could save with the help of her potions. Crown Prince goes darkside for a bit. But, when Valetta escapes and the softy Crown Prince wonders if it wouldn't be better for them to be friends, the Emperor loses his shit over the "just friends" line and reveals some ugliness that makes the Crown Prince wonders WTF is up with his dad and view the Emperor in a new light.

    Biggest spoiler is that the Emperor has been keeping the Crown Prince's mom chained in a secret dungeon under his private office. Yes, he is that kind of freak.

    Her name is Elise, she is gorgeous with blue hair, and she has been down there about 15 years.

    Elise is/ was a very powerful alchemist, and was the head of the alchemist union or whatever it's called, before that creepy Gallien guy took the job once she got chained in the basement. She has extensive knowledge of rare forms of alchemy, especially ancient alchemy, which has additional abilities over modern alchemy and including knowledge of some dark alchemy which got into human sacrifice crap and mixing with magic to make it more potent.

    She is no longer an alchemist because she dug out her own eye (the source of an alchemist's gift) believing it would stop the Emperor's obsession with her. Little did she know, he liked her as a person, so she was doomed anyways.

    Numerous people note that the Emperor closely reminds them of Reinhardt, and Reinhardt's charming, psycho, obsessive tendencies, which he was worse at hiding when he was young.

    Everyone avoided him and either thought he was creepy, or fell for his superficial charms, making them too stupid to befriend, except for his two greatest friends, Elise and Lagris (who is a wizard). They had the absolute best times together and were inseparable.

    Then Elise and Lagris fell in love. They had a baby out of wedlock and planned to get married. Emperor Cain was. Pissed. Imagine Reinhardt if Valetta got a serious boyfriend she actually loved. Yeah.

    He wanted Elise couldn't stand the thought of his besties were going to abandon and ignore him for domestic bliss and their growing family, and did not accept the "just friends" line.

    So he did what any sane person would do and raped her so she'd have his kid (the crown Prince) so at least Lagris would have to share.

    Elise and Lagris go on to have a total of 3 kids beside the crown Prince, though Lagris notes they died suspiciously, and young.

    15 years ago, there was a massive explosion in the castle involving Lagris and Elise. Elise was announced dead as a result (but really just disappeared to the basement sex dungeon). Lagris has been working as an Imperial wizard under the Emperor ever since, in the vain hope of getting Elise's body back. As a very powerful alchemist, her body is a potent ingredient, and the Emperor threatens Lagris with defiling it.

    The Emperor also turns around and tells Elise that Lagris died in the explosion, so no one is coming to save her, and that Lagris is alive, and the Emperor will kill him if she tries anything. She has no idea what is true.

    Second biggest spoiler is the Emperor caused the "Lost" disease, is the one massacring the towns, and has been messing around with dark alchemy, resulting in zombies. I do not have the complete and total picture on this one, things are still being revealed.

    I do think the basics are: the Emperor is an extra evil scumbag, who used Elise and Lagris's other children to create an alchemal Chimera, who looks like a human young man (he's very nice and sweet, and named something like Delisian. Looks just like his mom).

    When the Emperor wants to destroy a town, he sends Delisian there, and has someone use alchemy to transform him into a massive creature monster, who slaughters everyone. The towns are usually prepped with a town-encompassing alchemy circle to keep the beast contained and trap the villagers into being part of the spell. The remaining alive people are then used as sacrificial payment for the alchemy required to turn him back human, which is why they are missing limbs and organs. (There was also something about ripping one human soul out of a single body, and deviding it among several bodies, which I'm guessing is what makes the zombies. I didn't really understand that bit.)

    It seems that the Emperor has always relied on this "Lost" sickness, which manifests as people suddenly losing limbs or organs, as a way to both get the necessary human sacrifices for his alchemy spells (including ones other than this chimera slaughter monster one), and to control the population by stepping in to play savior and fix this "plague", since everyone thinks it's an actual disease. He used this method to gain power as a young man and usurp the rights of succession from his older siblings.

    It does seem like he is picking the towns with a bigger picture in mind, possibly making a massive alchemy circle with them.

    They also don't go into how much Elise and Langris helped Emperor Cain come up with this, especially when they were younger.

    The method the Emperor uses combines black magic AND alchemy, making it far more forbidden and dangerous. The combination also implies that Elise (an alchemist) and Langris (a wizard) helped him create it, but that is unconfirmed as far as I've gotten.

    Langris is present when the newest town is attacked, but I couldn't tell if he knew the monstrous chimera was made from Elise or not, and was possibly his own son, or what. It's a giant mess with some unanswered questions.

    But the important part is that the Emperor is friggin evil.
     
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    Damn I heard that this Novel is for people who have a huge "Eclis complex"

    This is really good !! :blobnosebleed:

    (If you read Death is the Only Ending for the Villainess then you'd understand ;) )
     
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    Guys where I can read after ch111? Im dying to know what will happen ᴗ͈̥̥̥̆‸ᴗ͈̥̥̥̆
     
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    _EyeCandy_ Secretly Into Sadists ヽ(*>∇<)ノ

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    I'm currently in Chapter 17

    After hearing the plans of the Father and the Emperor... i thought "damn, I guess being with this psycho ML is the best place for now"


    "For now"
     
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    This is basically the summary of the latest events before stoping the publication. Hands down for writing all this down !
     
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    Well, she was reincarnated inside the novel if she was born as Valetta, and not became/entered her at one point, which would mean transmigrated
     
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    They stopped publication for the raws? or was it that the original TLer had to stop due to copyright / DMCA?
    also the mawha wart 10/10 can't wait to see the notable crazy scenes
     
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    While all of this is true, I would strangely classify the pair as "childhood best friends". Sure, Reinhardt is twisted, obsessive, and has minimal to no understanding of social norms or regular emotional affect...but Valetta is the same and just as damaged. Their edges fit each other. They're like the only set of aliens on a foreign planet, and cling together against the inscrutable humans.

    If you're looking for an abusive, controlling, sick and twisted, effed up relationship, you will likely be disappointed. Their damage gives them a lot of surface-level jagged edges and some obviously twisted outlooks and opinions that make the two of them look like psychopaths, like their utter nonchalance towards death and killing. But underneath the flashy bits that scream "psycho!", they're actually very sweet and caring to each other.

    Reinhardt may insert himself as close to Valetta as possible, and be clinging, grabby, and demanding, but Valetta is so stonewalled that she needs someone this persistent. And Reinhardt, in turn, needs someone who can see through all of his flamboyant, shallow charms to take him seriously, like Valetta does. He instinctively distrusts and mislikes people who are suckered by his act, or who are overly nice to him, which is why they get along so well, and why, when she was trying to suck up and pander to him the first year, like a typical MC, he did not like it, and why he responds so well once she stops and treats him normally.

    They are equals in terms of power and intellect, and tend to be in agreement with each other's world view. For example, Valetta does not fault Reinhardt for massacring everyone in the Delight mansion. She completely agrees that it was well deserved, and holds no moral quibbles against Reinhardt for his actions. She had been scared of the thought of dying, because that is a natural response, but once it is clear Reinhardt will spare her, the massacre is never once an issue between them, and she isn't scared by him again.

    They are in sync with each other, understanding how the other thinks as easily as they themselves breath. That also show a high degree of trust in each other. Valletta trusts that Reinhardt will let her go, not harm her or villages needlessly, and will show up to save her if she needs; Reinhardt trusts that Valletta will return and treat him fairly.

    And while they pretend to be cruel to each other in the surface, with Reinhardt saying he's using her/ finds her fascinating, or Valletta saying she hates slaves and wants him gone, they are sweet to each other and had many typical "childhood best friend" moments. Like, Reinhardt helps her sneak into the basement, or they found and hid a secret pet together, or Valletta snuck him some candy, and they would stay up all night taking about their hopes and dreams. Granted, they were breaking into an alchemy lab, not the pantry for cookies, they were forced to kill the pet when found out, and the hopes and dreams talk occured through the dungeon door, where Valletta was locked in the dark on one side, and Reinhardt had been beat to hell on the other. So, twisty-strange childhood friends, but childhood friends.

    Reinhardt has also been shockingly good about consent. He always asks permission or clearly signals whenever he is going to hug or embrace her. He likewise lets her go whenever she is serious about being done with touching.
     
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    What chapter(s) was it that reveals the Evil intentions of the emperor and his past.
     
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    I always wondered why I feel Valetta fit with Reinhardt more than Crown prince when I reading manwha, AND YOU WORDED IT HERE!
    I mean I thought MC and CP might become nice couple after twist and turns but her interaction with Reinhardt felt more natural(?) hard to say, but something like that
     
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    Currently in Ch 54.

    I was about to drop the novel.

    HOWEVER
    The two Dukes ( Leon and Carlon )
    made the Novel a bit better. They gave off such strong DILF energy that I can't help but read more :blobpats::blobnosebleed:

    I just love their 'hot daddy' vibes

    Also, I love how they call her 'baby' like a child, and treat FL like a child. They're the best :cry:

    Please someone tell me those two won't die? Please I beg you people
     
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    No so far they didn't, if anything they were having headaches to how to rehabilitate these kids, and it was stated by mc how she and ml could've both being saved had they met the Duke earlier, but better late than never, they helped her soften up a little, and thaught her some common sense as well. Although cause of some stuff they're apart for now since both Valetta and Reinhardt are on the run