Spoiler I gave birth to the villain's child/ 살인귀의 아이를 낳았다

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    She wants to live freely without being tied down to nobility, but then you say she actually can’t live freely unless you have money or power (so being nobility & no shit yeah in what era does that not matter). What a contradiction. She’s now married to a Grand Duke so how more noble can she get? (Unless it’s a higher position). Whether she likes it or not, she is tied down to nobility bc of her title so unless ‘freely’ meant not being a noble so maybe a commoner or she runs away or some shit, then what a good job she’s done so far not being tied down to nobility (sarcasm). Since she can’t be free without money or power, then she should make the Grand Duke be on her side (currently he already is anyways). He wants to make Nitty his heir, but she doesn’t want to. So now she can’t be ‘free’ bc she’s refusing money and power I don’t think there’s a curse or magic that’s keeping her silenced about it she doesn’t wanna say the truth. I’m just annoyed that misunderstandings are dragged when it could have been solved with communication
     
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    She doesn't want Niti to be tied down by nobility so he doesn't experience the same miserable fate she did: to be treated as a mere commodity to be traded for wealth and power. Although I believe that the gender of the child mattering for such treatment is being grossly ignored, but the fl having ingnorance/naivety issues was already established.

    And there is another very big reason for her behavior that I think you are currently forgetting about, namely that she is a victim. What she experienced was obviously her own fault for not being smarter about things, but she payed the price for that arrogance and naivety. For three years she had been abused, ridiculed and treated lower than the servants in her "home". That doesn't just go away from one day to another because the ml appeared; she is still afraid. Afraid that her father will come to make trouble for the grand duke if he stumbles upon the truth, and afraid that the grand duke will think she is in some kind of conspiracy to take advantage of him and will send her right back into hell. I've read something about an interloper coming into the picture later here among the spoilers, if she keeps silent even then, then it's just the usual dumb plot device of shoujo stories to add more drama for the sake of it and to lengthen the book, but I'm not there, I'm only reading the translated manhwa. Up to ch.22 I agree with her cautious handling of ml, after all, she comes from a bad situation and she doesn't really know anything about the man besides him being gentle with her for a night.
     
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    Yeah I agree it’s understandable for her to be cautious and MLs don’t magically solve everything. I’m not caught up so much with this story and when I made my post I just finished reading recent translated chapters and saw spoilers in the comment so my posts were based solely on that. So I was just so annoyed bc it seems like the plot will ride out that misunderstanding since it won’t be solved 80-100 chapters later (novel ends at 125). By that time, wouldn’t their relationship develop to have some lvl of trust between them or something? Idk. For me, something like this is frustrating to read about:blobsad:

    Also, yeah it has to do with gender. Not saying that males aren’t treated as commodity or don’t get traded for wealth and power so political marriages, but the girls usually have it way worse since boys are raised to be the heirs who will succeed their house/title.
     
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    She is also worried that if he learns that it's his child he will feel that she manipulated him. She is scared that he will hate her. FL knows she has to tell ML the truth but isn't strong enough yet.

    Basically most of her worries are in her head but you can't blame her feeling that way when you consider her circumstances.
     
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    I understand your annoyance as that's something I don't enjoy reading about either. I took a look (just a look because I don't understand Korean) at some of the raw chapters, I think we'll be in for some cliché misunderstandings but I didn't see anything conclusive about it so I'll still give the story a chance for a couple more chapters--may I be surprised pleasantly. If it comes to the worst, I'll just have one less thing to read :D
     
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    So when the ML will know about his child niti?
     
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    Is his manhwa currently on hiatus? It's been a while since it hasn't been posted again
     
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    FYI private group has translated the novel, if you want to read more please dm me^^
     
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    If MC doesn’t reveal that the child is the ML’s, maybe it will come out in another way. If the father’s curse is hereditary, the MC should be concerned because who knows if their child also inherited it. MC needs to think ahead.
     
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    From the recent chapter fl is trying to learn and do her job as the duchess. She also asked about secret guild information to know the truth abt the bit*h pretending to be her. So she wants to become stronger and repay ml kindness to her. I just hope the misunderstanding in the manhwa doesn't ride out like in the novel.
     
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    I don't know because i don't read it. But
    said that, so i just hope the misunderstanding doesn't get too long.
     
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    He is supposedly cursed so when it (I'm not sure if it's certain?) Nights (or every night? as it doesn't make sense to me) he is pretty much blind. So when she met him on that fateful night he looked like he needed help, which so and so led to her asking him for "help" aka. sleeping so she can conceive. And then she left and he couldn't really catch her appearance but looked for her and she feels quite familiar to ML and the Niti, the son had the rare red eyes, which makes him suspicious.
     
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    it has the sense of a Manhua then a Manhwa

    Me too,, I prefer the art of the novel's cover then the Manhwa :p
    And I can't imagine how dense he is ,, that guy and his lover are tricking him to divorce his wife to marry her!!!!
     
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    In the latest raw updates ( I want to spoil but I cant read korean so I just tried to interpret the drawings)
    It seems like one of the guards of ML had been bewitched by some impostor bitch. I think she persuade the guard to lie and tell ML that she’s the girl he spent the night with. Then when the FL and ML went to the emperor’s birthday, the ML left the FL for a while and went to the impostor. It didn’t show what they talked about because the ML appeared again when FL’s father started to bother the FL.
     
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    I saw the Raw manhua on newtoki95 coz the the link on the first page of this thread doesn't work.:cry:

    duke baster: karinna ...

    mc thoughts:
    the warm water sits on my chest and comes in is the first time I feel like this.


    karinna: baster ...

    * then they continue kissing * hehe

    coachman:
    we have arrived

    Servants: welcome

    mc thoughts while going down the carriage:
    there are many people...


    baster: okay (holds mc's hand)

    mc: yes

    mc thoughts: it's weird if he says okay I feel really good.

    mc: nice to meet you

    woman butler / headmaid: my name is ten, I'm the butler in charge of the kayen mansion

    mc thoughts:
    It's amazing that the butler ... is a woman.


    mc: please

    butler: go ahead

    mc thoughts: not too big a house for a villa?

    butler: the bedroom is on the second floor. this is the master bedroom.

    baster: I have to receive a report, so I have to leave you can rest here (places sleeping niti in bed)

    mc: aren't you tired?

    baster: are you worried?

    mc: of course we had a long journey together.

    butler: .... (speachless looking at baster and mc) LOL

    butler thoughts: have I seen how I was wrong now? He is the one who draws the sword first and sees if the judgment is twisted by his tough and sensitive personality. His smile is like picking up stars in the sky. Now this person, who are you?

    baster: I'll get a report and be back soon, so take a break.

    baster: well we go out? (signaling the butler to go out the room with him)

    butler: ah yeah ...

    butler thoughts: ... his smile disappeared immediately


    the bubble for the following dialogue is messed up dunno who is talking sorry:


    your Majesty?

    How do you know I'm here?

    you must have used your own method

    baster: what ...

    Butler: Before the banquet started he told me to try it, with his mother

    baster: you failed

    butler: said he would give what he wanted when he came

    baster: I don't need it

    Butler: If you don't come, you will be accused of treason

    baster: tell them to do it. So, is that the emperor's message?

    butler: ... yes

    baster: send the answer I gave intact

    butler: consider the position of the person you are sending the reply to

    baster: having a competent person like your butler is very comforting

    butler: thank you. and a report came from the shadows we have heard that they have found "her"

    baster: !!

    butler: let's talk in the office

    someone:
    that's what you are going to do ...

    baster: you didn't know anything about the grand duchy of karinna?

    shadow: yes, I apologize sir. somehow, the days have passed at that time no one remembered what happened

    baster: two of the three maids who quit smoking died?

    it's strange...

    they both say they committed suicide, but there are many questions
    tra the other

    shadow: that's what ... it's hard to do

    baster: how hard?

    shadow: died in an accident the next day of my contact

    baster: !!
    It seems the Viscount of Tyrian had written his hand.
    Dipol, you will find out

    Dipol: yes sir

    baster: I hope the work is a little cleaner next time

    shadow: I'll be careful

    baster: by the way ... did you find the girl I met three years ago?

    Who?

    shadow thoughts: if you take one more step here you will cross an irreversible river ...

    shadow: .... is

    shadow thoughts: shuri ... I also want to live as a human, will you help me?

    shadow: pearlson ... the countess

    shadow thoughts: ... too late

    shadow: this is Ivett Pearlson Young

    shadow thoughts: the dice were rolled

    baster: Ivett Pearlson ...? in that house, did you have a daughter like that?

    ...you

    shadow:
    said to be the son of count Pearlson

    baster: illegitimate ...

    baster thoughts: you must have been mistreated quite a bit inside that house ...
    So, was he wandering the streets that day? without knowing the world ...


    baster: Will Ivett Pearlson attend this banquet?

    butler: so you have never attended a baquete

    baster: I'm going to have to meet her. and the counts together

    Butler:
    I'll try to fix a day

    baster thoughts: not even count count pearlson is very good with rumors ...

    maybe Ivett Pearlson needs my help then the talk will be quicker
    maybe you need a break ...


    Baster: what happened to you the other day when I asked you to investigate Tyrian's work?

    Dipol: wrote a separate report

    baster: what is the hole?

    Dipol: there are a few
    It does not seem difficult to bury the Viscount of Tyrian

    baster: be prepared to do it at any time
    for a while due to Karinna's rehab I have to hold my breath

    this is from followmanga. translated from spanish to english.
    that shadow is an effin liar and Ivett is a B. :blob_catflip:

    baster: something else?

    butler: no, nothing.

    baster: how often has the emperor been pestering?

    butler: send a courier every week.

    baster: well ... what is the security status in the mansion?

    butler: so far there have been small incidents of intrusion, but they were suppressed without major problems.

    baster: good. he worries a lot about strangers who may approach, so care must be taken.

    butler: yes

    baster: think of her orders as my own.

    butler: yes sir.

    baster: pay attention to her food, dessert and snacks.

    butler: I'll keep it in mind. will not go to the library?

    baster: no, I will go directly to the bedroom. you don't need to come.

    butler thoughts: how much longer can I see you so happy?

    butler: okay.

    baster thoughts: it took me longer than I thought. I should have come sooner ...
    (when he reached the room karinna and niti are already sleeping together in bed)

    baster: i'm a fool ... good night, karinna. (he sleeps together with them hugging karinna)

    **********************************************
    shadow: shuri ...

    Ivett:
    why are you so worried?

    shadow: no ...

    Ivett: uh ...

    shadow: that ... is dangerous. I mean if they discover us, we will be in danger Ivett.

    Ivett: It's okay when you find out everything. He will have already fallen in love with me.

    shadow: the grand dukes is a cold and scary person ...
    I am afraid that they will hurt you.

    Ivett: hahahha- you're worried about me. do not worry about it. If we just keep it between the two, no one will know ...

    shadow: yes ...

    shadow thoughts: now it is useless to repent. I'm already into this. if we die, we die together, and if we live, we live together.

    Ivett: finally, I will be able to live as a human being ...
    thank you.

    shadow: I hope Ivett's wish comes true ...

    Ivett: so it will be. making sure I'm the grand duchess of kayen. I will reveal the corruption of my family and make them kneel before me.

    shadow: but ...
    There is already a grand duchess then like ...

    Ivett: ...!
    So, are you telling me to be just a concubine? You said you wanted to see me happy !!

    shadow: of course !!
    I sincerely hope Ivett is happy., ..

    shadow thoughts: more than anyone ...

    Ivett: anyway, you say that this girl is also an illegitimate daughter right? also has a son of another man.

    I'm better for him, isn't she?

    shadow: yes ...

    Ivett: then give me more information about your lord. his personality, tastes habits ... tell me everything!

    shadow: yes.

    Ivett: thank you, shuri. (she hugged the shadow guy)

    shadow: you're welcome ... (the idiot blushed)

    Ivett: Be careful. don't hurt yourself like the last time.

    shadow: yes Ivett take care. if you need anything, feel free to tell me

    Ivett: thank you, shuri.

    shadow: well then ...

    Ivett: bye!

    shadow thoughts: why ... did you choose such a dangerous path?
    for her, I can do anything. What should I do ... I'm going to hell. I have to kill you first.


    shadow: the woman I met three years ago.

    shadow thought: i must find it faster than anyone else we have to deal with it without anyone knowing. Should we ... I ... this isn't too much ...?

    ******************************************
    banquete entrance

    karinna: huh? Everything is fine, I was very nervous.

    baster: keep calm, karinna. (I have held her hand)
    calm karinna does this calm you down?

    Karinna: yes, thank you

    baster: it was nothing ...
    So, we go in?

    karinna thoughts: i'm not scared
    the only thing he had was the power and violence that he had exercised
    now nothing can hurt me
    because I now have this person! (looking at baster)


    baster: come on karinna

    karinna: yes.
    ... Niti will be alright?

    baster: * whispers * can't you focus on me today?

    karinna: (blushes) what ... are you doing all of a sudden!

    baster: I was saying don't be nervous

    karinna: what ...? thank you ... (she laughed)

    * baster saw karinna's dad *

    baster thoughts: Tyrian himself
    it's an animal ... I want to rip its neck off ...


    baster: karinna * hands a drink to her *

    karinna: huh?

    baster: Viscount Tyrian is watching you there

    karinna: ...!
    ...It is not a problem
    and if Nitens is safe I am not afraid

    baster thoughts: he really is an unpredictable person * notices Ivett looking at him *
    Who?
    Maybe that woman ... Ivett Pearlson! ...


    baster: ... Karina

    karinna: yes?

    baster: do you remember that story? when I met a woman three years ago ...

    Karinna: mmm .. yes

    karinna thoughts: why are you suddenly talking about that?

    baster: actually got to know who it was. and that person ... I think is here

    karinna thougts: how did you know? that I have to do

    baster: I'm going to take a look

    karinna: ... huh?

    karinna thoughts: ... what?

    baster: it must be an unpleasant story for you ... sorry

    karinna thoughts: what are you talking about?

    baster: said she was Ivett Pearlson, the illegitimate daughter of Scott Pearlson.

    karinna: ... !!
    Ivett ... Pearlson?

    karinna thoughts: what's happened?

    baster: yes. the shadow discovered it. I asked them to investigate in case something happened later
    I'll talk there for a minute and I'll be back

    karinna: ... there?

    baster: yes, he's behind us

    karina: .... (looks at where baster was pointing and saw Ivett)

    karinna thoughts: but ... who is it?

    baster: I'll be back soon

    Karinna: uh ... yeah

    karinna thoughts: why .... why does he pretend to be me? because...!

    (karinna saw baster escorts Ivett away)


    Karinna thoughts: why does my heart suddenly ... hurt so much?
    ... should I go to the doctor?


    EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION

    * Karinna looks at the announcer

    HER MAJESTY IS ENTERING

    karinna thoughts: come to think of it, i've never seen her majesty's face
    it's only been 3 years ...


    king: everyone straighten your back

    karinna thoughts: she is a beautiful person
    looks like a jewel ...


    * the king saw her looking and smiles at her*

    karinna thoughts: are you laughing at me right now ....?
     
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    karinna thoughts: that person ..


    king: I thank you for coming here. I hope the trip has been pleasant.


    karinna thoughts: is his majesty the emperor?
    I thought the sun of the empire would have a different aura ...



    mc's father: karinna


    karinna thoughts: i don't want to have to deal with it.


    mc's father: (grabs mc's shoulder)
    Heavens, who do you think you are? Would you still be a nobody if you had not married the archduke ... do you think that is enough to change your true nature?

    karinna: what you say is true. however ... now you can't keep hurting Nitens anymore. As you say, now my situation is different and I have become another person.


    baster thoughts: (heard mc's voice) .... karinna?


    karinna: I think I am capable of achieving what I set out to do.


    baster: * shivers *


    baster thoughts:
    Until recently his life was a disaster and he had to live rolling in mud flats in order to survive. his wounds were immense and deep, it was a situation that went beyond what my mind could imagine. My intention to help her was so that the day would come when she could defend herself ... I wish she could spread her wings and fly.



    karinna: step back viconde Tyrian.
    Because now I am capable of doing anything.

    baster thoughts: now that I've been able to see who she really is, I can't take my eyes off her. she is so beautiful ... (he is blushing LOL)


    mc's father: this ... despicable crummy thing!


    Baster: (walks closer to them)
    Long time no see, Viscount Tyrian.


    mc's father: archi ... archduke! (bows in greeting)


    baster thoughts:
    an evil man who behaves weak before the strong, but is strong and implacable before the weak.



    baster: (smiles and look at mc) karinna


    karinna: um, baster


    mc's father: ...!
    you ... you just now how did you have the audacity to speak to the archduke like that ...!


    baster: why do you think it is a problem for my wife to call me by my name?


    mc's father: excuse me for my daring, I did not know that it did not bother you that she crossed the line.


    baster: I will decide that it is to cross the line. Since the marriage was made, I have not seen him again. I will leave a free space in my itinerary so that we can meet.


    mc's father: yes! Yes! I would be honored if I did that.


    baster: then, we retire. we will talk another time.


    mc's father: y-yeah have fun


    * they walk away *


    karinna: what do you mean by making room ... in your itinerary?


    baster: I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to be tough on him first and then make him feel good.
    You do not want? (he pinched mc's chin and moves closer to her face)


    karinna: it's not that ...


    baster: you looked great a little while ago.
    When you told Viscount Tyrian what you really thought.


    Karinna:
    were you looking at me? what a shame ... (blushes)


    baster: (holds mc's face) you were incredibly fantastic.
    I couldn't look away for a second.


    Karinna:
    I am no longer afraid I realized that he could no longer do anything to me.


    baster: that's right


    karinna: when i was a girl i trusted that man because he is my father. That was before I knew that he had killed my mother.


    baster: .. !!
    ..What did you just say?


    Karinna: I'll tell you everything later.


    baster: ... um


    karinna: Ivett ... did you have a nice conversation with that person?


    baster: I did not think, that I would have the confidence to tell me a secret of that magnitude. I wasn't ready for that, I need help.


    Karinna: ... I think this person is telling me the truth, but am I sure of that?


    baster: um, he knew exactly what happened, the date and the accommodation.


    karinna thoughts: what happened to you? someone must be lying!


    karinna: so ... there is no way I have betrayed you?(probably she meant if there's no way his shadows betrayed baster)


    baster: that would never happen


    Karinna: ... um


    karinna thoughts: you shouldn't be suspicious of baster's trusted people ...
    I need to do some more research.



    baster: karinna?


    karinna: uh .. um.


    baster: our turn is next.


    karinna: what do you mean by turn?


    baster: we need to meet the protagonist of the party. (he is unwilling to do it. LOL)


    karinna: ah ....!


    baster: it's annoying, but it's my duty to deliver a present.


    karinna: * whispers * it is usual for high ranking people to go first, but why is it like this this time?


    baster: * whispers * I'm an exception.


    king:
    no matter how annoying you think I am, at least you should be more careful with the expressions on your face Archduke, don't you think?


    baster: it's just that I find it tedious to have to.


    king: you don't even want to talk to me a bit. After not seeing each other for so long, Terry.


    baster: don't call me by that damn nickname, your majesty.


    karinna: !!


    king: it is unfortunate that you say that, after all, we are close friends. (stands up walk close to mc and held her face)
    It is the first time that we have the opportunity to dialogue. Karinna.


    Karinna: ....! (blushes)
    not bad to be cautious mc (y):blobspearpeek:
     
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    anyone has a spoiler? How did the woman who claimed to have met the Duke 3 years ago end? He dared to deceive a grand Duke so I was wondering what punishment he could not get for daring to deceive a grand Duke!
     
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    I wonder what's the cause of niti's fight with another kid.
    It's cute when Niti cried when he saw his dad hahaha

    I can't google translate yet :blobsob::blob_teary::blobsneeze:
     
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    I think it has to do with the other kid telling him the duke is not his father when in actuality the duke is his father. Heh.
     
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    I see thanks. Good thing Niti knows the truth he just can't say it. But I think it's good that FL said that to Niti for his safety as well. Sometimes hiding the truth will make traitors show their true colors.
     
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