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  1. Ram5

    Ram5 [Noodle Stealer]

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    I was thinking about creating a system for my next work (multiple-work actually), it's not complicated, it just level-system where Mc gain ability point every time he levels up, 2 every time he reached multiple of 10 (max level is 50), no attribute and this ability point can be used to gain or upgrade abilities, which used tree-based method; if you want to unlock the certain ability, you have to acquire this skill first and upgrade it into a specific level, like a job-class final fantasy tactic.

    Right now I only have two in mind; Physical and Elemental.

    1. The physical will lead to several upgrades like super strength, super endurance, etc, etc.
    2. Elemental will lead to the capability to conjure and control several elements like fire, water, and further if one or two of them reach a certain point, like fire and rock reach level 7, they will unlock the magma element.

    now I still have three or four ability categories that still vacant, what do you think should be filled in? If I wanted mind-reading or flight abilities, what do they called?
     
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    Maybe summoning and buffing/healing
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    Psychokinesis or telekinesis or esper?
     
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    Macrendil Ysmir Well-Known Member

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    Alignment, social, crafting & ...

    Alignment would start simple with good/neutral/evil. Andat certain levels it'll combine with other categories. So you can get Fireball-Holy Fireball-Hellfireball. Also, people with high lvl's can get contracts with high level demons & angels for support. Speccing mostly into alignment can possibly unlocks special jobs like Necromancer or (Dark)Paladin.

    Social would benefit,or worsen, personal relations and also synergises with alignment. Intimidation, persuasion, buying & selling items.

    Crafting is straightforward and obviously very diverse. Levling up as a blacksmith helps identify ores & metals you come across while being a Blacksmith-(armourer) would help identify quality armour pieces etc. So resource identification & specialisation for specific item types.

    Maybe religion could be a fourth one, but that ties in heavily with alignment that they might be too similar.
     
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    Effugium [Investigator], Praise Shigure-sama

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    Hmm, how about one concerning mental energy, can be used for illusion, hypnosis, mind reading, etc
     
  6. Zeusomega

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    Other types - healing, curses, summoning, future predictions ( seers).
     
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    3. Mind magic.
    4. Nature magic. (Gravity, Transmutation, Kinetic and Energy manipulation)
    5. World Record magic. Game world system magic (inventory, skill access, monster and object information, etc)
    6. Divine magic. Rule breaking magic corresponding to related administrator/god area of authority.
    7. Demonic/chaotic magic. Rule breaking magic using outside interference help.
     
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    1. Physical
    2. Elemental
    3. (1) Mental
    4. (2) Magical (as in mana)
    5. (3) Spiritual (as in life force)
    6. (4) Metaphysical
     
  9. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    hmm warrior and magician huh
    you may add priest aka healer then da trilogy is complete~
    warrior da tank, magician da dps then healer is da support~
    on offense oriented it will be vanguard, rearguard and support~

    you may also add da researcher or hmm creator path such as item maker be it alchemists, blacksmith, chief ect

    for action oriented that two path only cover offense and defense still lack on support department
    support shine on team if your world focus on individual theme no need to think about it~ hmmm maybe heal is ok be it warrior path with regeneration or magic with heal, cure, buff and debuff spell
     
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    Ram5 [Noodle Stealer]

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    Alright, I think I have several new ideas;
    Physical; super strength, super defense, super endurance, super speed, super reflex
    Elemental; fire, water, wind, earth (lv 10; lightning, blood, wave, metal.)
    additional for elemental; fire + water= mist, fire + wind= unknown, fire + earth=magma
    water + wind=ice, water + earth=wood
    wind + earth=magnet
    Mythical (summon); undead, hell, heaven, beast.
    Rascal; clone, toxic, vanish, disguise, hypnosis.
    Arsenal; Melee, Range, Grenade.
    Spiritual; Heal, cheer, terror.

    Mythical and spiritual

    telekinesis and psycho can be done with wind, esper is a good name

    crafting is arsenal, social is a good idea, can add ability such as charm, speech, and other talents, maybe singing.

    spiritual and mythical, I don't know about the curse or future prediction tho, but both are cool abilities.

    the idea of having 'video game' ability is cool, for example; checkpoints, fast and back- forward, alter.

    what is metaphysical?

    not really job-esque, more like esper type, or metahuman like the flash.
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    No they can't. There is a big difference between psychic powers like telekinesis and wind. While the result may seem similar to moving objects, the actual implementation is different as one applies direct force while the other one applies indirect force.

    Wind leaves a trail, if I block the trail of wind by closing the door, there is nothing you can do. With telekinesis, even if the door is closed you can still move the object behind.

    If I have an item in my bag, you can't steal it with wind, but you can with telekenisis.

    Just because using technology may seem like magic doesn't mean it's the same. 2 things can have similar end results but work completely differently.
     
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    Assumptions and Delusions of Great Philosophers.
     
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    Mythical sounds like a grade of treasure or power level.
     
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    Err... I get it, I appreciate your explanation, all I am saying if it just simple pull and push, the wind element can do it, so it's redundant to have telekinesis, besides. normal telekinesis requires eye contact with a certain object or people, so if the item is in the other room that had thick-soild wall, or let's say a wallet inside someone's bag, it's not possible to manipulate them, its only advantage against the wind is that, as you said, it directly affects the object, while the wind is just the medium to finish the task, if the medium cannot reach the goal, then it definitely fail.

    in game-based or several novels, but Mythical here is summoning myth creature.
     
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    Hmm job cuz it easier for this cat to category based on division of da power work apply on action
    warrior is physical type on general
    magician is da weirdo use abracadabra or whatever type beside usual physical powah
    support is da cheer squad cuz not really attack or defense on direct sense such as heal, buff and debuff
    just matter of category based on what view~
    hmm you put sing and speech imo that is da support type~
    well really depend on how it's application so yeah we have different perspective~ no problem~

    hmm you may put it further cuz you wanna put this system on multiple work~ this cat can think on general 3 type of tech tree correction skill tree
    combat
    non combat
    other (place holder who know what of skill may pop up on this category)

    same skill may have different effect and condition to actived depend on which tech ehem skill tree it belong

    well to create better chuuni name and skill effect hmm do want to focus on combat oriented first or non combat? it kinda important cuz it seem a word may have different detail meaning depend on which lore taken....
    example~
    that just summon tech tree~ why not transform into mythical being? such as henshin! you become a unicorn~
    Rascal.... da heck is that mean? heretic?
    so which kind of lore you want to set as background? old fantasy such as lord of dragon, viking druid legend~ science fic such as star trilogy, robot ai running around
    supernatural such as pervert ghost, pervert miko, pervert priest ehem ghost, spirit, esp and fa likes~

    oh it remind me with ghost hunt~
    phykonesis? da pk thing~ 3 category~
    one can effect physical object, no need to look just make ball floating
    one can effect living being such command cat to dance around
    da last forget da detail it like can see future, acute sense of danger, seeing ghost, seeing past ect
     
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    Rascal mean ability that used to deceive and trick, avoid direct combat such as vanish and disguise.
     
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    Ouch. I felt that. Let's not outright call them delusions; assumptions are okay, but defining it as the delusions of greats who founded modern human civilization today... is disheartening and nihilistic in my view. Keeps yours, free speech and all, but at least have tact about it.
     
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    Until we know the truth everything is a delusion.

    Even Physical laws that we've understood are logic built with trickles of truth and lies, until we reach the end we delude ourselves in mastering reality.


    Speak not the mind, but the Real;
    Seek not our falses, but our dreams.


    Reality is much farther than we think it is....







    Ps- well I take it as a compliment to great sages, can you imagine finding out the world is smaller than you thought, and there's nothing more to learn ?..
     
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    I recommend you communicate with the Outer Gods of our Cosmos. Perhaps, they will divulge the unknowing to us ignorant of ancient knowledge kept secret in blind sight amid our journey to life's predetermined End.

    We are all someone great being's delusion, my mad poet. Tell me, are you dreaming or waking? In between the ebb and flow, comes forth the great expanse of the stars.
     
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    There're no Gods, Nor......


    If everything is a dream is there a......



    Why distant Stars are sounded with Greatness?, Aren't candle lights brighter than .....


    All these are wrong in their own sense and right in all rights, any philosophy be it internal or external are nothing more then just sounds with sense. A painting is made sense by its image, when they are just colours that we believe are and should.






    Ps- Nonsense, pure nonsensical train of thoughts on lose, don't mind it.