Well there is ONE character so far I'm not really a fan of, and that's Yuran. Not to say he isn't likable, it's just that he's by and far the least interesting of the main four. It's mainly because, as I've brought up before, he lacks traits that DON'T go back to Violette, aside from his connection to the Prince. It leaves him feeling really bland standing next to the others, and ironically makes the Prince a more interesting love interest by comparison. As someone before has noted though, the story is not pro-yandere, and frequently brings up how destructive obsessive love can be. Another facet of Violette's character is that she's immensely self-loathing because she believes she can only hurt others. Now, considering her slowly, if not reluctantly, getting closer to Maryjun, coupled with whatever her maid and Yuran are planning, she will not take it well if they end up hurting people, especially Maryjun, especially if they hurt people for her. On the pacing, yeah it's definitely slow, and I hope the author starts to pick up slack later on with the foreshadowing between Yuran and the maid. On predictions, here's what I can see happening (As a preface, there's some foreshadowing with Maryjun calling out her Father, in the recent manga chapters she actually picks up on him trying to minimize Violette's achievements): We know the Father is trying to push Maryjun and Yuran just because she asked. As a form of character development that's been building up, Maryjun notices their strange behavior first: that Yuran isn't having fun with her, and that Violette seems upset whenever they see both of them together. She could then take steps in bowing out and letting the two be together. Of course, with her not being aware of the full picture, she unintentionally makes it look like Violette is disobeying their Father and trying to steal Yuran from under Maryjun's nose. This all comes to a head at a party or something, I'd imagine the major confrontation being out in public. I could see the Prince using Yuran and Maryjun spending time together to try and get closer to Violette and really get a chance to talk to her. Throughout the conversation, he notices how uncomfortable and sad Violette seems to be. She feels this way because it just feels wrong to her to be able to get close and potentially end up with the Prince after everything that's happened in the first timeline. She tries to leave, and when he asks why she's so upset, she says something along the lines of "... because I don't belong/deserve to be here with you.", which clues the Prince into her own personal issues and inferiority complex. Now, back to the hypothetical party, Yuran by request of Maryjun acts as her escort, and the Prince acts as Violette's escort, and of course, the rest of the family tags along. During the ball, the Prince notices Violette's gaze turning towards Yuran, and eventually urges her to go with him instead, likewise Maryjun pushes Yuran to Violette. Their Father only catches a glimpse of Violette moving to dance with Yuran. All goes well for a while, until it doesn't and Violette, while lost in her thoughts contemplating being able to be with Yuran, causes both of them to fall in an accident. Whatever this accident is doesn't matter; maybe she spills a drink on an important guest, maybe her shoe snaps and she falls and hurts the both of them. Whatever it is, Violette's Father will use this opportunity to drag her out of it, loudly rebuking her while apologizing for "his daughter's incompetence". This would place Violette into a poor state of mind and cause her to run out, reaffirm Yuran's hatred of her family, and... For the first time ever, Maryjun snaps and calls her Father out to the entire ball. She calls him out on never considering Violette's feelings and questions why he treats her so poorly when she's been nothing but an amazing older sister to her since they'd met. (With a complimentary slap or two). After she runs out to find Violette, her Father is left there contemplating and hears the whispers from the other nobles. Contrary to what he'd believe, Violette has a pretty decent reputation, and her biological mother and the fact that she'd been left alone with her for so long only inspired pity from outsiders and put her Father on blast for ignoring her while favoring a bastard child. Violette is comforted by the Prince, Maryjun, and Yuran. Seeing this, she's happy that she has people she can be closer to from now on. The following day, her Father seems to have a sudden shift in behavior (oh, and Maryjun ignores him or forces him to include Violette now). Their interactions are still awkward, but he's noticeably less cold to her. Violette doesn't really care (partly because she knows Maryjun got him to be like that) and procedes as usual, but he's trying to get her to spend time with him now, possibly getting her presents and paying her unsolicited compliments. None of these really work and only serve to make things more awkward and deepen divide: For the presents, since he'd barely interacted with her as she grew up, he'd be out of touch with what she likes and defaults to whatever Maryjun would enjoy. This is partly played for comedy but also makes things more awkward. The complements would also come across as unnatural to her and only come across as insincere and weird. This actually makes Violette like her Father even less because his attitude and desperate attempts to get closer to Violette only remind her of her biological mother. Eventually, things come to a head, and while they do come to a sort of mutual understanding, Violette makes it clear that there will ALWAYS be a distance between them and she has no interest rekindling whatever Father-Daughter relationship they could have had. Her Father, sad but understanding, promises to support her from now on and recognize her achievements as a person. So everything's kinda better now, and Violette is a lot closer to Maryjun than before. Suddenly, however, the maid and Yuran enact their plan and get her family hurt, either physically severely injuring them, or dragging their family name through the mud that puts them in a REALLY bad position financially and socially. When Violette finds out, she freaks out, and lashes out at Yuran and her maid, questioning why they'd think she'd ever want to hurt even more people? This would follow the themes of the story of obsessive love only hurting people and driving others away. It would also potentially spur character development for Yuran, who needs it the most out of the cast. Aaaand that's all I've got so far. What do you guys think? Likely, unlikely to happen? I know it's not perfect and could possibly need a tuneup here or there, and I know for some of it to happen there needs to be a bit more buildup in the actual story.
Fine, I can respect that, but as a parting point: ^That's the part where I thought it sounded like that, I might've taken it the wrong way, then in that case, my apologies.
so the recent spoilers is about maryjun having interest in yuran..? why tho.. like why??? did he leave a good impression or something.. I'd hate it if she instinctively like yuran because he is close with vio.. that's cliché.. I feel like I'm becoming more a masochist the more I read these kind of genre.. Ahaha But I really like Vio changing to be a better person like she is now.. sometime you see everywhere about MC commited crime and got punished in the original timeline, but it turned out she didn't really deserve it after we reach the conclusion chapter.. Tbh, I don't want to see it in this novel, I really like how Vio want to change and try to leave the dramas behind..whatever a nun or a forever happy after with yuran or someone.. and Yuran honestly, if you're a yandere.. I'll be very welcoming the yandere you.. but first thing first, please got rid off the ugly father.. that's my only wish anyway..
Thankfully, since she isn't going around bullying or trying to kill someone this time, she should have a better ending than going to jail and starving to death while trying to convince herself she isn't bad. It shouldn't be hard to get a better ending than that really, unless Yulan goes incredibly yandere and locks her up in a room for the rest of her life but he doesn't come across as being that extreme of a yandere, and no one wants to kill or do anything bad to Violette, even her dad mostly just neglects her...which is bad particularly since whenever he hangs with her he just acts cold or awful to her, but he doesn't seem to want to kill her or try to get her out of the house despite everything. But honestly, the happiest ending seems to be her becoming a nun.
Well considering from a spiritual standpoint, it really is. Away from all the troubles and isolating herself in her own peaceful little world doesn't see so bad. But it's not very healthy in Vio's case as she is still suffering from PSTD thanks to the memories of past life. Isolating herself either can make her go mad or cure her inferiority complex, if there's someone to guide her negative thoughts in a right direction.
Heck, in medieval times, sometimes being a nun was the only way for a woman to be independent & happy.
What did I do today? Scrolling through trying to find spoilers but finds a lot of discussion and speculation No regret tho. It's nice seeing people's different views on the same novel.
pls let violette elope with yulan .... i can't bear with so many misery if it's what awaits until chapter 90. i read until chapter 35. i rly can't stand maryjun nor their father. he has his reasons but neglecting his duty as a father or too naive thinking that legalizing one of his concubine will be easily accepted by the society. eventho he loves his new family, he didn't think wisely about the rumors around. the only nice think he has is his position and his look. damn. also why some ppl says that marin is yandere? so far i didn't see her as yandere. She's nice and her reason to hate other is bcs they're hate-able. I don't see Marin is that possessive to Violette, she's just being loyal and cherished her master.
Marin the yandere is possible since she might have developed an extreme amount of protectiveness on Vio based on Vio's upbringing. We're talking about a delusional mother, an absentee father, an apathetic stepmother, and a clingy sister. If I had that family, therapy is a must have or I'm exiling myself on that point. Poor Marin is the only one she can really rely on. We're filling the space since translation is on the backburner...again... Author-san, please make it so! I like Yulan but I'm currently tired of couples. and whether the shape of relationships they have now.
Guys, 2 webtoon updates. The first one is another angst scene. A flashback where we see a cross dressing Vio which I kinda mistaken for Claudia due to the outfit. Features children feeling ‘fake’ because some people didn’t believe a king will have a mistress, a scene of bullying, Chest binding, and apparently a well known open secret that a certain duke abandoned his family. Also includes a self sacrificing best friend who is resigned to be friend zoned a5 the current stage of writing. ....That hit hard and I’m gonna go attack the cake on my cooler. Next chapter is an attempt to lighten up the previous chapter about girls, tea cakes and Body image.
I remember these sections in the novel, and I gotta say, they went reaaaaaally easy here. The tragedy and also severity of what the mother did to Violette in the novel is a lot more excrutiating. This is like the PG kid-friendly version.
So it's always been general knowledge that her father ran away with someone else and left her, much less that her mother tried to replace her father with Violette herself to a point where she could just walk around dressed as a boy? Guess the prince never heard about that and Maryjun lived in a place where the lives of nobles weren't talked about much, or people just didn't want to say what was happening to the family her father left.
What's more, I just realized that if it was apparently common knowledge what her mother was doing, her father MUST have heard about it. And he just didn't care that his crazy wife was absuing their child.
That too, was this in the novel though? I am guessing Maryjun somehow didn't hear this, and no one wanted to bother the prince Claudia with talks of some random family, but someone must have told and asked Vio's father about what was happening, or his new wife too, but the father just doesn't care because Violette looks like her mother so screw her i guess until i can obtain a bigger and better house.
You got it backwards. Vio looks like her father. Thats the reason why her mother dressed him as a guy since it gives her the illusion of her absent husband. The father might have been told but we already knew he didnt do anything when he started his family. Even if he attempted to get Vio, children are always entrusted with the mother unless he has good childrearing skills (which also he also lacks seeing how he treats Maryjun).
Still, i wonder if anyone told him off or he got judgmental gazes and was the target of rumors for leaving his daughter behind while she was going around dressing like a boy? Hope the manga doesn't go with the part of the reason he hates Violette from the start being that he got tired of feeling like people were judging or criticizing him for leaving Violette behind with a woman that is rumored to be crazy and getting more and more crazy.
I have a feeling with the way the manga is going easy on the story, there is a chance it really won't adress this at all. It seems to heavily focus on the romance aspect of the novel, not the general angst, torment and tragedy. And if they do get what's coming to them, it's probably gonna be fairly stereotypically done.
I'm not really sure how I'd feel about that given the novel's biggest complaints rn is that it feels like continuous angst.