Spoiler Kill the Villainess

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  1. BrytteM

    BrytteM Well-Known Member

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    SO I don't know if this spoiler is true or not but I'm dropping it here for confirmation.
    I was reading chap 21 of the manwha (will add details later) and one of the comments said a spoiler that they had ended up hating the Priest fish the most because apparently he and Eris are half-siblings but he elects to act like that doesn't matter because MC is currently inhabiting her body and if so my answer is... bruh. Bruh why.
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    Edit: So, onto specifics about chapter 21.
    Basically it revolves around Eris meeting with the kid who helped her escape the knights when she felt like running away with Anakin as her escort.
    In the dessert shop stilln yeah.
    Basically he found out where that temple she wanted to find was, and handed her a note about it that he then proceded to eat like an absolute minibadass informant and she is like wait why no, you could get ill.
    And he is basically like nah, I've eaten worsen this is just paper - to which I'm thinking 'and ink, and that ink could have harmful chemicals' but alas.

    So remember how I mentioned in previous spoilers about how the kid was supposedly Anakin's brother? Yeah, turns out this is more figurative than anything, since Anakin just happened to live in the room upstairs and helped the kid out when his gambling drunk of a father made a mess of things.
    Apparently the kid's dad forced him to beg and then stole his profits. This whole conversations comes about after Eris gives the kid a bag of gold for the information guild telling him not to even think of stealing it because she'll give him his reward separatedly.
    Then she asks him if he has already sold the earrings she gave him and he basically replies that no, he hasn't, because it would be a waste since it is the first reward he has that hasn't been stolen.
    (Since his father got in a fight and lost, with the apparent implication being that he died).

    This kid seems to truly be the leader of a kid gang, since he states that all the kids in the slums are independent and live on his money.

    Eris manages to convince Anakin to sit with them at the table as the kid gets to eat all the food because him just standing by her side like that is bothersome, and honest they look like a neat found family...

    Gods just ignore my falling head over heels to ship Anakin and Eris, okay?
    ANYHOW, around right this moment is when the Silver Balloon and her Priest Fish enter the shop, and through Anakin Eris learns that Helena has decided that they are going to eat in thatfloor since if they went on the upper floor she could get confused as a noble...
    Ignoring completely that the servants are treating her like one ANYWAY because she is being served on the trays reserved for nobles, she is eating with a highly ranked priest, and even if she is dressed as a maid, she has never had had to do any maid-like work (referencing previous spoilers and chapters in which Eris noticed that by the state of Helena's hands, some other maid or servant has to be doing what chores she was supposed to be making, because all Helena actually does is sit around with her fishes and the Empress, having tea and general bumming around through life without having to lift a finger).

    So like. Helena keep being extremely ignorant to everything that doesn't interest her, and causing tumult between the diners anyway because hey, couple of important ass people sitting over there?

    Anyway, Eris ponders what colour her soul is and sorta laments not having asked the priest fish, before thinking that she feels bad because Helena has all these people supporting her blindly and she doesn't...
    Before reflecting that hey, no, actually she has one as she turns to look at Anakin, and then the kid, and basically reaches the conclusion that she also has people on her side.

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  2. Sutad Aatma

    Sutad Aatma Well-Known Member

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    Okay first. good news. I noticed rain of snow has decided to translate this novel (yayyyy) i hope we get lots of fast updates (i am a greedy reader lol sorry)
    second, i found a guy on youtube who is actually posting translated chapters as video. you guys can just search the name of the manhwa on yourtube and you will find it. it has till latest chapters translated (bless his/her soul)
    [edit: the name of the user is Jasuchiii 02 if you still cant find by typing the name in youtube]

    i have a theory on how mc ended in this situation but i guess i should make a thread on it since it is not a legitimate spoiler. will do so after this comment

    is this confirmed? in current timeline? or is this in prev timeline? sorry, due to so much fights happening in middle, i could not understand properly

    wait whaaaaatttt can you send the og source of this?
    oh also, that makes me wonder... does anyone know anything about the mother?
     
  3. BlueRoseJuliet

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  4. Princess Alice

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    Did the novel mention where is the soul of Og!Eris at all? Where did she go? Also, what would happen to her family when the Now!Eris died to return to her world? She seems like a very nice person who cares a lot about her people and family. I really hope she got a good ending herself. Please let me know if you read the novel. Thank you!
     
  5. Merri

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    Someone please spoil us some events with the 3 "supposed ML".
    • Did each of them get close to eris?
    • Did they fall for her? (Especially the red hair)
    • Did the crown prince even regret?
    • What did they feel when they kew OG eris is gone?
    • Is there memorable moment with og eris dad? Di he retaliate to the imperial family after earth-eris death?
     
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    Wow you described exactly what was going on in my mind, I want that dump idiot dead
     
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    I hope this manhwa won't become the next Scarlet Heart Ryeo that didn't get a s2, I'm still heartbroken over it and it's been 5 years. Please let em reunite in the modern world

    Thank you for the spoilers!
     
  8. Arekushieru

    Arekushieru Well-Known Member

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    Bwahahaahaahaa! I'm sorry yes it is sad but at the same time I couldn't help but burst out laughing at your latter comment.

    And was that a slip of the tongue there? So 'dad' that Anakin becomes Darth Vader?
     
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    She's dead.
     
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  10. amanda_exoforever

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    Mc and Anakin are living together. They’re both in university (or it might just be the MC it’s hard to understand machine translations) but Mc thinks of making Anakin, into a YouTuber/Web celebrity cuz he’s so handsome LOL!!

    “Everyone is doing YouTube these days” she says.

    She’s so funny cuz it’s true! But she shakes her head and says no.

    Mc is studying for class and Anakin is with her. It just ends with them together.
    We don’t get a glimpse of them getting married or having children

    After Anakin burns Eris’s body, Mc’s soul travels back to her world/Korea. Nothing has changed. She decides to quit her job cuz you only live once and she’ll have some unemployment money to use.

    She calls the publishing company and asks them to change the ending because of how sad and unfair it is to Helena and Eris/etc..

    Later she’s walking in the streets, crying in the rain. Wondering if Anakin would recognize her in this new body/face.

    And that he would definitely recognize her and she would recognize him too.

    As she’s still crying, someone holds an umbrella over her head

    she looks up and sees a man,

    “Anakin?”

    And it’s him, so they embrace and kiss in the rain.
     
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    I read ch 16 some time ago. I'll just spoil what I remember from the chapter.
    Chapter 16 is Helena's pov. Helena is also quite pitiful. Helena's family was brought down by Marquis Mizellian and her mom is a bit unstable because of it. Helena spent most of her childhood comforting her mother.
    It's not that Helena doesn't know about her situation but rather she doesn't really have any choice. No matter how much she tried to do her duties, the empress and prince didn't let her do it. They would always call her away. At first she was a bit stubborn and wanted to finish her duties. But she soon realises that if she wouldn't go, the servants would be still inconvenienced. She doesn't even have the right to refuse. And Eris bullied her a lot during their childhood. She even once locked her up in a dark place. She even tells her very condescendingly that if she wants to raise her status so much, it's better to join a brothel. Og Eris is very prideful and very condescending towards Helena. Later a maid rescues her and when the empress and CP inquire about the culprit, both Eris and Helena keep quiet. Eris even further pretends to be worried and happy to see Helena safe. So because of all this, Helena had some resentment towards her.

    But one day she sees Eris crying alone in the corner. She knew she works hard, more than others to strive for perfection. She feels sorry for her. Just when the prince comes, Eris quickly wipes away her tears and smiles like a doll. Helena wonders whether she would have been the same if she had remained a noble. She decides to forgive Eris no matter what she did to her in the future.
    So the reason why the empress and CP hate Eris is because of Helena's mom. CP just plainly hates her for being the daughter of Marquis Mizellian. This Dumb bitch! As I mentioned before Helena's mom hates the Marquis and so channelises all that hatred towards Eris. She influences the empress too by badmouthing about her. One day helena got hurt during a hunt because of some inexperienced lady who couldn't manage her bow, but her mom puts all the blame on Eris. Her hatred is so much that she decides to poison Eris's tea. To save her, Helena decides to take care of the matter herself.
     
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  12. AileeB

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    Helena, while pouring the tea, pours most of it out. Eris gets very angry and slaps her. She asks her if she's deliberately trying to embarrass her before CP. Helena starts crying and Eris gets embarrassed but she still scolds her saying that all she knows is to smile or cry and that she is nothing but the imperial family's pet. Helena gets sad because she knows aside from her poor status and limited education, she knows nothing but to smile. She isn't as smart as Eris or has that much knowledge as her. People just look for her because they want to see her smile and she hates it but can't do anything about it.

    Pov shifts to Eris.
    So Eris's Coming Of Age ceremony is approaching and the imperial family has ordered to conduct it in the palace. Eris asks about priest Prometheus to know more about the Dragon(that jason mentioned) and how he could escape from the world. There's some mentions about how to reach at his place and magic train. I'll skip that.

    In this world, during the coming of age ceremony, a person can't sleep because they think it's the period of receiving God's protection and if you sleep a devil may possess your body. Eris enters the palace with a few servants and Anakin. She then asks Anakin about his ceremony, to which he replies there wasn't much, just like every commoner he had it in the temple.

    Then there's description about how a very drowsy Eris goes through the whole ceremony in the temple. Hybris acts a bit weird during the ceremony. He hesitates whenever he has to touch Eris. While he's blessing her, he has to apply the holy water on her eyelids and lips, but he hesitates to touch her lips. Eris gets so irritated(can't blame her girl didn't get her sleep) that she herself presses her lips against his thumbs and then leaves to change.

    After she's done dressing up, everyone praises her. She was looking so pretty that she herself couldn't believe it. Just as the servants were waiting for CP to come escort her to the hall, Eris refuses and leaves for the hall all by herself because she knows he's not gonna come. At the hall, everyone is confused about why she has come so early and alone. Eris asks jason to escort her. Even though he's uncomfortable with the request, as a knight he can't reject a lady's request. The atmosphere becomes very tense. Cp was originally supposed to escort her but she came with another man. Since Eris got engaged to the CP, her status is equivalent to that of the crown prince and her coming to her own ceremony with another man would be seen as a challenge to the Imperial family. Jason asks her where CP is because he can't believe he would be that dumb to do something grave like this. She just straight up tells him that he's gone to escort his(jason's) partner(aka Helena).
    Marquis Mizellian enters the hall only to see his daughter being escorted by another man. He was really pissed on not seeing the CP. Then emperor and empress enter. Just when empress asks Eris where is CP and why is she alone, the clown enters the hall with helena. And helena is wearing the same dress as Eris.

    While Eris and Anakin were talking, we get another glimpse of her previous life. She lived very poorly and didn't have much money for herself. Her mom took away whatever she got and she was just left with 10,000 won as pocket money. She often felt jealous of other kids whose parents bought them whatever they wished. Her parents are not the nicest people and she had a really shitty life, yet she wants to go back to them. This strikes down another cliché. Mostly fls of isekai novels often justify their stay with this reason.
     
  13. Anmol

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    I’m literally getting so annoyed with the crown Prince
     
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    OG Eris didn’t love the CP?
    I thought she did. :facepalm:
     
  15. Meizey

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    There is a lot of debating here and much less spoilers, so I just want to ask, will MC and her ML who killed her per her request be reunited in the modern world or not?
    She had happy ending because she went back as she wanted, but for him it's more of a ssd ending.

    I personally like the concept because it's different and unique. Like people here said she is not adapted nor does she wants to adapt, but the get back wich is different and interesting. ML is not CP or grand magician or someone OP which is also nice.

    MC is not a weak woman, nor she was (the OG MC). Imagine that you were in her place - your whole life you had enormous pressure to behave a certain way and to study a lot and than someone who didn't had even a part of that pressure gets way more respect than you and you are made into stupid fool like you never did a thing. Of course she was frustrated and she saw Helena as her target because everything happened when she shown up.

    OG Eris (OG MC, villainess) in modern world could be seen as someone who had PhD, Noble prize even maybe, born in rich family with a lot of pressure to be successful not to shame their name so she had to be the best in school and to be perfect when seen in public because of the paparazzi and scandals (aristocratic society had tumors that are equivalent to today's scandal magazines etc).
    So she had to be perfect in everything.
    On the other hand we have Helena. For her I have few options because it's not that exact as for OG Eris (rich and under a lot of pressure type of person).
    So, she could be:
    • Person who never finished elementary school, but cought eye of some rich man who decided to be her sugar daddy and forced himself on her, so she had to accept. So, imagine that you were always best in school and if you weren't producing perfect results you would get scolded or punished, you know your worth, but someone who never had anything like that, just got lucky and now is rich has more respect than you. Because of that person people see you as a worthless bug or even less. You don't know she was forced into that marriage, but it doesn't really matter to you because you are treated without any respect even though you worked hard your whole life for your title and you are proud of your knowledge and achievements. How would you feel?
    • Person who finished school normally, had bad/average/good grades, no college degree. Cought eye of a rich man and got married (forcibly in this case). Again, you have all your achievements, but you are still treated as you are not even human because of that person. It's not like you care about that person nor that person's opinion or achievements you just want recognition for your own achievements and efforts, but you don't get it because of someone else.
    • Person who is a reality TV show star. This one is the least realistic in accordance yo the novel character, but still let's use it as a possibility which will show you the best how you would feel. You, who has PhD, was best in school always and is knowledgeable about your field of work are not even treated as human being because of someone who went into a reality TV show to gain fame and money. You are looked down as someone worthless and all your years of effort and experience are brushed away as completely insignificant. How would you feel?
    Of course, we could use much more examples, but I tried to put up the most "plastic" ones (like most realistic, because as a commoner she couldn't attend school (idk about her past, so I couldn't put anything in accordance to that)).
    How would you feel if everything you studied for and worked har for was looked down by someone who can't even understand a third of what you had to understand and learn?
    In aristocratic society it would be someone who can't even understand roundabout way of speaking - as example, I have appointment soon - meaning please leave, I have to get ready - and person whi doesn't understand would be like, oh, with whom? Why? Or something else, but wouldn't get it that she/he has to go, like go home or wherever just get out of my house.
    This is a banal example, the most stupid one I could find, just so that I can directly say what I want.
    So if you were OG Eris, how would you feel?

    I put everything in spoiler threads because it's really long and I don't want people to be scrolling in search for spoilers and find my opinion on the debate here which is really long and hope that it's a spoiler when it isn't
     
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    They meet in modern live, there are spoiler of side story that mention it. Its happy ending though.
     
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    I agree with you that she doesn't have freedom to do what she wants as aristocrats to some extent - aristocrats are much more limited than commoners in their actions.
    They have ti follow strict rules, their every action can cost them their reputation and they can be treated much worse than commoners if they just angry the wrong person. Rumors are equivalent to today's internet and media bullying of people - rich and poor.
    On the other hand commoners have more difficult life, but they can be free to marry who they want and can live however they want. If they want to travel - they can when they earn money if they are not working as servants for some aristocrats who don't want to lose them.
    Aristocrats can't do what they want. They have to get education according to their role in society and have to marry in loveless marriages whitout question because of their families or politics. They can be abused in these marriages and they can't really get a divorce easily while commoners can run away.
    Aristocrats have a bit more safety over their lives than commoners if they insult someone,m of high ranking, but commoners can avoid aristocrats almost completely in some cases which aristocrats can't do ever.
    It's long so that's why I put it in spoiler.

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH
    I couldn't find it
     
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    My bad. I edited it. I actually meant to say that her jealousy has nothing to do with love. Thanks for the head up.

    Still, based on the manhwa so far, it doesn't seem like OG Eris has ever loved the CP. She just wants him to acknowledge her hard work and be kind to her.
     
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    Since we got spoilers on OG Eri's end, mc's shitty family, mc's end, anakin's end, and even helena's end. I just wanna know now how the 3 rat fish came to "fall in love" with mc/Eris and what their side stories were after mc died. I think thats all we pretty much have left to spoil since all other questions seemed to be amswered.
     
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    Literally me, reading this whole forum:

    :blobunsure:Fck she's /he's right,
    :eek:Oh.. is that so? She had a happy ending?
    :blobpopcorn_cool:My god! Dis ish shoo spicy! A lot of people arguing in the internet just:blobcozy: because of this one particular Manhwa!!
    :blobsmirk:*/Secretly laughing and cursing/
     
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