Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. Nakakure

    Nakakure Zadiris Empress Faction

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    Mtl is hard so sometimes i miss something and if it fairly old chapter i forgot.
     
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    Nakakure Zadiris Empress Faction

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    Regarding Magic

    At first, one would assume that the fire attribute and the water attribute are opposites. However, the essence of the fire attribute is heat, while the water attribute’s is in liquid and cold.

    Therefore, a master mage of the fire attribute would be able to freely increase the heat to burn something, or lower it and freeze it. A master of the water attribute would be able to manipulate molten lava like his own arms and legs, since it is a liquid.

    A user of the earth element would be able to manipulate mercury and lava, while a user of the wind element would be able to use the flammable components of air to create a large explosion.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Always good to know. What chapter is this from?
     
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    ssj4maiko Welcome Back Sadpanda!

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    This is pretty much the concept magic Zadiris teaches Van at the start of the story. Her main example is that Fire Attribute would be able to even lower heat effectively freezing, but only masters can do that.

    That's also to try to explain the possibilities of Van's unknown death magic
     
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    Nimitz Well-Known Member

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    Some random thoughts.

    If at every gate into a city a guard test hits a "tame" monster to make sure it's tame(don't go out of control and attacking poeple). And if Van(" tamer") is restraint every time to keep from attacking said guard. How long before poeple start to question who is the tamer and tame?
     
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    Reman Scimitar Princess Zadiris Faction

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    Very short, plus that's if the big shots (Duke of Alcrem/Alchem, Tamer's Guild guild-master most notably) doesn't get involved.
     
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    Chapter's out! :blobpopcorn:

    The second half of the entrance exam commences, and the tamer guild whose limits were once again tested.

    Turns out Randolf being at the adventurer school was a request from the principal, an elf woman who also used to be an A-Class adventurer and Randolf apparently worked most with when he wasn't going solo. Apparently lots of people ship them there are lots of rumors they were lovers or spouses. Sounds like they're really just exes at this point though. Randolf's too much of a weird wandering adventure hobo to settle down.

    We get Randolf's backstory: Radolf was an elf whose forest village was overrun by a monster stampede and turned into a devil's nest. He vowed to take it back, worked for many years to become a B-Class adventurer, and by the time he was ready to take it back... the devil's nest and dungeon that were where his town was had valuable resources like medicinal herbs and high end metals that were saving people's lives and giving them work. Thus, most of the surviving elves from his town gave up on moving back, and Randolf eventually gave up on his original dream too, and just continued on as an adventurer with the help of some nobles and some adventurers like the principal, eventually reaching S-class and then retiring. I rather like it as a backstory, it's another nice illustration of Randolf's moderate, realist character. :hmm:

    More talk about the Alda faction dukedoms being the ones who were really pushing for the reclamation of the Scylla territory, to shave some power off Sauron. I am still shocked no one realizes the territory is being occupied by a foreign army, but that's the power of intel. This is also part of the reason Randolf accepted the teaching job: won't have to deal with annoying people pestering him to join the Scylla territory reclamation. Well, and also he knows Van's going to show up there eventually.

    Get confirmation Randolf has been guided by Kanako too. This might just be me, but it almost sounds like Randolf wants Van to be in the capitol in order to start doing concerts. Well, either way, he sees no problems with them, since they're not different from any other missionary or political activity anyone else is doing.

    Also a very interesting version of the bigoted noble canon-fodder student. He tries to talk smack about Van for not taking martial based exams since he's a tamer, only for Van and Pauvina to assume "Oh no, we're not blending in enough!" and taking all those exams... with their insanely high A to S class adventurer skills and stats. :blobsweat_2: Van does better in throwing than all the other students, shows off his razor sharp nails, identifies poisonous plants by taste thanks to his null status, and uses telekinesis way above what most magicians have in an attempt to hide his massive mana pool. Also the canon-fodder ends up swearing allegiance to Pauvina as like her knight.:blobwhistle:

    Then they go off to go terrorize the Tamer guild some more, and Randolf is utterly baffled why they're so terrible at hiding their skills, I assume since he's made a profession of it. Still, they didn't make any new records (in any individual event) or blow up the venue, so mission accomplished!

    Finally Pete and Pain got size reduction skills, so they can be cute plush sized bugs again. dawww.
     
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    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Are you updating this after each paragraph?
     
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    Well, you know, don't want to double post if no one else is posting. :blobwhistle:
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    I was actually in the middle of typing something up, but you seem to be doing a much better job of it already. Carry on. :blob_grin:
     
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    Sauron,Fazon and Jahan are bunch of traitors.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Meanwhile, Randolph notices that they are obviously trying to hide their true stats, and wonders why they even bother. :blobamused:

    That is very unusual, but also definitely not as overpowered as I was expecting.

    This is how kingdoms ultimately start: a declaration of feudalism to a budding leader. Also harems.

    Cool. Care to clarify?
     
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    ssj4maiko Welcome Back Sadpanda!

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    Summary for chapter 314

    Let's go back to half a year ago, in the Hero School, Randolph was called by the director to be a teacher in the Hero School (This is obviously longer before Van and Pauvina announced they were going to enter). Meorilith is an former A-Rank Adventurer elf and former comrade of his, one that he actually has affinity and trust to the point that rumors say she is pretty much his lover (After all, Randolph only works solo otherwise). Randolph didn't really want because he dislikes working with children, the reason is, they remind him of his former self. The Dukes pretty much placed Meorilith

    In the past, Randolph lived in a forest village that was suddenly attacked by a storm of monsters from a Devil's Nest nearby, even with all the strength of the villagers, they were defeated simply by the numbers and ran away. Randolph worked hard to recover the place, but he found out most of the former villagers didn't care much for their hometown. Seeing such naiveness of his, he tried to let it go, though he still holds an idea of recovering his hometown, but he knows it's not realistic anymore and is giving up.

    Towards that, he has been managing the devils nest, and when he can't, he can ask the Adventurer's Guild for that, so that one day the Dungeon may crumble and they are able to be back. However, things did not go as he expected. The place turned into Magic Land, and knew plants were discovered that could help certain previously incurable diseases, and in the dungeon, Mythril and Adamantite could be found, so the Adventurer's Guild soon found itself more inclined towards the dungeon. The Temple of Alda who usually goes all out towards defeating monsters gave priority to other places, and then none of the original residents tried to help (besides Meorilith and a certain nobleman [Unknown here]). He continued being an adventurer, but he stopped praying to any god.

    Anyway, Randolph has no reason to accept, until Meorilith explain another reason. It seems Duke Sauron is going to attack the Scylla territory and is recruiting forces, and they probably will want Randolph, so if he is called to be a teacher at the Hero's school, he has a good excuse to ignore them. The ones helping the force are Hartner, Farzon and Jahan, all duchies have strong ties with Alda's religion, and it seems to be in their interests to loose the historical Vida religion of Sauron and try to introduce more Alda to them.

    Of course, if Darcia were to hear that, she would laugh, because they know that while the territory follows Vida, the Duke himself gives two shits towards them. Duke Jahan is a Titan, and the faith of his territory leaned towards Botin, but lately, it has been inclining towards Alda. Duke Farzon would hire Heinz, but he is in the Dungeon.

    So, to avoid political shit, Randolph accepted the work. From then until now, Duke Alcrem gave a letter of recommendation to Van, but everything happened in haste, so once Randolph learned about him, he prepared a disguise in haste, but he admits it's a poor one thanks to the lack of time. Also, he doesn't know Van's strength, but he knows the boy has nothing to learn in this school, he starts to guess that maybe he came to build contacts, or maybe they are planning on a concert here too (This thoughts are the result of Kanako's influence). Although the concert idea may sound dumb, it's almost time for the elections, and those concerts could make a big turnaround. Yet, he has no reason to stop them, in fact, he doesn't want to do it at all. He is impressed that Van seems to not have noticed his true identity.

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    And thus, the second part of the test starts.

    I'm not sure what happened here, but it seems Van's roared and the other new students couldn't laugh at him (?)

    The "future classmate" wonders what Van will do, at first he guesses he could just pass by owning an unique skill, but then he remembers he is a tamer. Seems like the boy got extra points from having one. Van never mentioned having Unique Skills, he is just going as tamer and is getting points from being a Dhampir. If Van wanted, he could simply pass and not do the exam, but he never heard such possibility. The boy seems to belittle Van for being a "simple tamer".

    This boy doesn't really want to be an adventurer, he is the 4th son of a baron, he wants to join the knights, hence why such behavior, but in this school, parents are prohibited of interfering, so everyone is of equal status here. And then, the boy got intimidated, not by Van, but by Pauvina.. She looked down at him.

    She then asked him what exam he will take, he answers while stuttering "Sw-Sword and Shield, and Bow". "I see, then I will take those too". Still tripping on his own words, he is taken by surprise, and Pauvina tells Van that she will take a separate exam from him, so they will meet later, and he tells her not to overdo. The boy feels embarrassed by the whole situation but goes to the same path she goes, since it's his own exams too.

    Van's strategy knew they would stand out in regards to their races, but everything else was supposed to be as simple and normal as possible, and Pauvina was supposed to not be "unreasonable" there, because she could easily overpower anyone there.

    So Van went to his own test which are made of multiple tests, in regards to long distance targeting, it seems that bows and throwable weapons give better results, so when he arrived with a a staff, the examiner wondered if he wasn't planning to use his nails, Van showed his extended nails, and explains that while he could use, because Dhampirs have super strength naturally, it would be too dangerous without any appropriate armor, so he is going with a staff.

    One of the tests was about collecting herbs and differing them for poisonous ones, also to guess monsters by their footprints.

    Van went quite bad in the herb collection, the reason is because he had poison immunity (not resistance, but immunity), as such nothing would happen to him either way, he simply didn't knew how to find them. The teacher of course didn't know that and scolded him that it was dangerous to ingest poison, Van saw a new reason for the school, because it's hard to imitate, he needs to be careful of his surroundings, it's not a Hero's school for nothing.

    And then, the magic test started, he looked at wood targets 10m away, and others using all sorts of elemental magic at them, fire, ice, pieces of rock, wind blades, some examiners were even surprised by some results. Of course, to avoid catching attention, no death magic, nor dead spirit magic here, but then, even his magic bullet is just too strong. If normal people can use a few millimeters, Van's bullet would have a 1m diameter. If he used that, the Magic Guild would immediately recruit him. He then asks the examiner if he can use a Knife or a Stone, although it's a magic test, Van intended to use Telekinesis on the knife and hit the target, super simple and boring. Accepted, Van prepares himself.

    He chants a spell to avoid showing he doesn't need to, and he throws the knife with magic, if he used his artillery skills, the knife would have gone through the target and pierce the wall behind. It was supposed to be simple, but to the examiners, he showed the ability to save mana by deciding on a knife, show off the power of his stap and magic control, it was amazing! Van just couldn't understand where things went so wrong... But now it's already over and there is no redo.

    Pauvina arrives in full smiles... Holding the boy's sword, but the boy is not with her. Pauvina says she got the best results, and she didn't know why, but the boy gave his sword to her, although he seemed tired when he said so. Van guesses he may have said that in a more metaphorical sense, he didn't lose his pride, but seems to have decided to join Pauvina's ranks. So they decide to return the sword, she doesn't care, she prefer a mace/club after all.

    Van's finds it weird that she went better in swordsmanship than the boy, she does not has the skill, the boy should have some, so what's the deal. Seems Pauvina took the largest sword in one hand, and in a swing she smashed the sword made for the test. The examiner passed her immediately. To Van though, he guessed the Examiner considered someone would die if hit by that strength.

    In regards to the archer test, throwing skills worked fine.

    So they decide to go back home, and they will pass by the Tamer's Guid, because it seems Orlock-san is back. Pauvina is excited that Luves will be next, she wonders if she can get Rapie too, but Van warns her that it will only be Pete and Pain this time. So the final results were Pauvina at the top, and Van had good results overall.

    Looking at them, Dandolip didn't understand what the hell they were thinking, if they intended to hide their strength, why the hell they did it in such a half-hearted way, it's like they didn't even try matching their abilities. But Randolph didn't knew that such results were the minimum they could get.

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    Pete didn't want to learn the Shrinking skill, but together with Pain, Van and Pauvina taught them the skill was useful, and that with that they would be able to join him in human society, so the pets went ahead and after a few days inside Van's inner world they showed their results.

    So Orlock and some guild staff arrived, and upon seeing Pete entangled on Van's arm, and Pain on Pauvina's hand, the staff members went crazy upon "the discovery of tamed insects", "although it didn't look much compared to the previous undead, it's still amazing", "why are you so calm? This is history!". Orlock was quite calm compared to the staff. So he confirms with Van that he tamed a Giant Centipede and a Giant Butterfly who were in the garden of the house. Both confirmed. But Orlock notices that these insects are not Rank 1 monsters, he noticed some "mutations", like horns, fangs and even some "electricity sounds" that are not part of Giant Centipedes. Pain feathers were poisonous, he asked if he could touch, and Pauvina replied that it should be fine, since he is "holding it back". But the sizes match...

    Pain is usually bigger than a dragon, but by shrinking he can wrap around Van's arm and hide on his sleeves (I think it was supposed to be Pete here?), Orlock suggests it may be a mutant, but it seems very comprehensive and accepts them as tamed monsters. He warns that the Magic Guild may come later.

    Van seems worried and asks if Orlock has been sleeping well, he laughs that he is fine because he took the entire previous day off, still Van took a wood box and offered a cream that is a specialty product of Alcrem's territory, and should be effective on rough skin and stiff shoulders from stress. He was worried that Orlock might retire, so he offered him V Cream.
     
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    Hahahahaah this is really funny
     
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    So randolph become atheist because alda:facepalm: maybe he will have faith to Vida later.
     
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    The dungeon creation skill let’s Van move dungeons... Sounds like the power to grant Randolf’s wishes...
     
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    The land it self become devil nest, well with experience dealing with Demon King Continent maybe devil nest is not really impresive. I wonder how alda deal with devil sea if merflok didn't hunting sea monster , human is weak in sea. Not mention Devil Sky. After all monster become stronger at devil area. Ryoujin , Diablos and Succubus can deal with devil sky.
     
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    Best way to advertise a medical product lol. Van the GDK Capitalist lmao.
     
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    @ssj4maiko in the chapter does it say that it was other dukes who pressed Duke Sauron to attack the autonomous region? I sympathize with him and I think he has salvation, I would like to see him talking to Van and Darcia and hitting ...

    it's a bit funny to see that Van is such an easy person to relate to and the only reason they do not understand him is by preconception
     
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    To be precise, it says Randolph has been "half Guided" by Kanako. Which has been said before.

    Kinda funny that previously we were speculating that maybe Van and Selen might have an unexpected meeting but instead it was Van and Randolph. And yeah, given Randolph's backstory and what Van can do there's a definitely a chance that Van will be able to grant Randolph's dream... if Van ever finds out.

    In general though, Randolph is quite apathetic. He's not bothered about what Van does unless it's clearly bad for the kingdom. Incidentally, next election is next year.
     
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