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  1. FussyBadger

    FussyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Certainly I thought the same about the Minotaur girls. It seems like the sisterhood of the knights order is now an actual thing since they were all reborn from the same litter? I think you're right on Kanako striking again. Can we get a side chapter where Van tell her to knock it off for a bit with the magical girls? The whole last part of their fight was awesome and the fact that Van said that was incredible to me. Usually he's pretty passive when dealing with his enemies but it seems like he starting to want to end this as quickly as possible. Also didn't see how Hajime's power was being used coming at all.

    When do you think Murakami's group will show up?
     
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    Probably at the end of the fight when Vandalieu defeats the Hajime or is close to eating his soul. They must think this is the best opportunity to catch Vandalieu unprepared.
    It was really surprising to see Vandalieu struggling mainly with his magic, after all he recently always uses artillery or unarmed combat leaving his magic aside.
    I have the inpression that the way he used the language in the end to arrest the Hajime is semenhate to a curse, this will give in a new suit, perhaps?
     
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    We probably have two or three more chapters of this fight then. I'm all for that

    If you're right about murakami do you think he'll misunderstand Van eating fitun's soul as him eating hajime?
     
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    I was reviewing the last status of Vandalieu and finally realized that it only needed to appear king demon in the race, because already exeste in the title, in the skill and finally he goes and chooses the work demon king. He can not blame anyone for calling him a demon king, in fact he should be called the demon king. Well, already passed the stage of the demon king now is the stage of becoming a god, probably he will soon win a title as "god of death", "demon god" maybe even "god of creation" may appear.
     
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    Didn't he already skip over the demon king race and become part god because of Darcia's race change?
     
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    I think that this change in race has only opened new possibilities for his development.
    If you look at the status of Vandalieu you will realize that there is more to do with demon king than with a god. In the race he has "Goddess", in the titles he has "Demon King" and "Holy Child of Vida", in the works he has "Demon King User", "Demon King" and "Demiurgos", in the skills, " Demon king","Body of the Demon King," "Semi-God," and "Breaking the Limit of Fragment." But he began to follow God's way recently, so has room to grow into a god.
     
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    Honestly at this point the only thing left for him is to ascend to godhood. I mean he's already half way there by taking the demiurgos job and the only things left would be a pillar god at some point as they are the strongest types for lambda. Thinking about it a little more I realized that nothing Van does is normal so he'll probably end up as a something like a God of Death/Reincarnation/Anarchy/Chaos for lambda.

    Just read the most recent chapter and I have a question about Murakami. Is his motivation to kill Van to make up for his past crimes in origin?
     
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    I did not pay much attention to murakami and his group, he was more interested in the part where Vandalieu is able to use curses with the language. I do not know why, but when I discovered that Vandalieu can use curses, I already considered the defeat of hajime as certainty, but it was not enough to use curses he had to curse even gods.
     
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    I mean it was certain that Fitun was going to lose when he only tried for two years to prepare for this. As for his comrades they took even less time for this fight since one of them was recruited months before. Does the curse Van used on Fitun reflect damage done to others onto him?
     
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    The curse that Vandalieu used on the Hajime is first different from what he has, since his is a curse thrown directly into the soul and the one he used was one that has the effect on the body. Of the three altitudes he can use after exchanging work one is that it deprives one of the five senses, the other is that it weakens the target gradually and finally the latter that returns the pain inflicted directly or indirectly back to the target (pain alone) . That is why the Hajime received pains that his allies inflicted on the enemies.
    Vandalieu still has a job focused entirely on curses so he has many possibilities for the future.
    Stopping to think with exception of the Vandalieu only gods have used curses until now.
     
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    Thanks for that. Wow he really can curse someone's soul that's crazy

    Which job was focused on curses?
     
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    Eclipse Curser. The jobs and evolutions of the monsters are affected by the abilities and behaviors in other words have condiciones, so the Legion managed to evolve into Legion Eclipse during the eclipse that Alda claimed, in the same way the Vandalieu also got a job because of that eclipse and that work is Eclipse Curser.
     
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    Wow I had no idea that happened. For legion as well
     
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    New chapter posted today

    Kanako is trying her best to be the second most terrifying character in this novel
     
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    I think Kanako will have to do a lot more to become the second most terrifying character! (There's some pretty stiff competition...)

    That being said, I'm a fan of Kanako and want to see Van create a plan to properly convert lots of people to being Vida worshippers through her idol activities. Eg, do her concerts in the Orbaume Kingdom and with other activities (like all of Van's inventions). Wining hearts and minds... sort of thing. This would have to be a long term project though.
     
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    I'm just curious who would you pick?

    Kanako has been a character that I can't decide if I like or not. On one hand she has introduced a lot of stereotypes and cliches that usually put me off of liking a novel. I generally hate anything to do with Magical girls in anime/manga/novels as it becomes something that doesn't appeal to me at all. I really enjoy Death Mage because it doesn't feel like other novels I've read here and her character is the representation of the things I don't enjoy in other novels. On the other hand she is the leading person in bringing about a culture to Talosheim that could be exported; as you mentioned her idol activities. There is a lot of expansion that could be done with this and I think a lot of it could help bring an unusual event in the future. If Alda wasn't a fan of fireworks being used to celebrate then I wonder what he would do if she showed up and did a live concert in front of his temple.

    The reason why I think Kanako is terrifying is the same reason I find Van terrifying. They excel in mental attacks and manipulation. Its been shown in Death Mage that there are many worse things than death and those two have some of the most invasive mental abilities. I don't know enough about Legion's abilities to fully compare the two but if Kanako can conjure up the same effect from Van's paintings(?) that mentally cripple people its terrifying. Van can break, control and manipulate souls and is the only one that we know besides Rodcorte to be able to do it. Kanako can mentally cripple and abuse someone or fundamentally change everything about them by messing with their memories. Pure power isn't the most terrifying aspect of someone for me and this is why I'm thinking she's getting scarier as her ability grows.
     
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    To be fair tho, it wasn't Kanako who started the Magical Girl fad, Van did when he started teasing Zadiris by giving her a transforming wand. Kek.

    She did started the magical idol thing tho.
     
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    Darcia, since you'd then get onto Vida and Van's shit list! Don't mess with the Holy Mother!!:blobdizzy:


    I find her to be interesting and in her own way she's quite similar to Van - she has been trying for a long time to achieve what to her is happiness (become a successful idol) but she was frustrated on Earth and died without achieving much. On Origin she made some progress but was screwed over by the Bravers, was then forced to fight and kill and finally died a horrible death. While Lambda is highly backwards in comparison, this time her idol activities are fully supported and she's able to create the concept from scratch, so she's actually quite happy with her life now. Like Van she also uses her brain and is far from being a muscle-head.


    I agree that amongst Van's forces, few can do mental attacks and Kanako is the only one who specialises in them. However, she herself would be quite weak without all her buffs. Elenora's eye attack would probably be quite powerful at rank 13 but we hardly see her use it any more.

    To me, Kanako is somehow who is more "devious" or "tricky" than actually scary. If she was more aggressive in general or wasn't so focused on being an idol then she would be scarier but she'd be unlikely to do something to you unless you're already an enemy of Van's.


    Indeed, Zadiris started it, with some help from Van obviously. World's first "magical girl" is in fact a 300 year old Ghoul who's a grandmother :blobastonished:

    Personally, I found that to be hilarious. Particularly with Zadiris spending like half a chapter griping about having "princess" in her race title and hoping to graduate to being a "queen"... and then accepting becoming a "magical girl" because of the power-up it gave and Van's explanations for why it has bows and frills and generally looks cute. Sorry Zadiris, you're firmly stuck with the "shoujo" attribute no matter how much you deny it :blobowoevil:

    I think bringing over this sort of culture from Earth is much more interesting than food, toiletries and the like. I like how this series likes to twist things in interesting ways.
     
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    I was just thinking about this again and I feel like its cheating choosing gods for this
     
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    Wait, can you please tell me how and why endou commited suicide