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Interesting tidbits of Character Summary this week:
-This character summary is not part 2/2 anymore, but part 2/3.

-Elizabeth in fact didn't realize at the time that Van was in the room when she was first having that meeting where she said "everyone here is my comrade!", the event that ended up causing Van to start following her around and everything that followed from that.
-Elizabeth might end up becoming the first duke who sings and dances for the public, as Rudel handed the duke seat over to her, and Kanako tricked her into practicing being a magical girl idol a while back.
-Elizabeth's worried something weird is going on with Maheria, as she's been talking with the impmice and doing stuff with Rita, Saria and Bellmond a lot lately.

-Maheria's family were retainers of Amelia's family, not Duke Sauron. Maheria similarly serves Elizabeth because she's Elizabeth, not because she's a Sauron.
-Maheria is generally only willing to do stuff like become a magical girl or go hang out with Bakunawa because Elizabeth is doing it, and she wants to everything she can to be there for Elizabeth.
-Though Maheria is deeply grateful to Van for helping Elizabeth and Amelia, it's also something a source of concern for her that she's going to be a retainer for an EMPEROR in the future.
-She's actually been talking with the impmice, Rita, Saria and Bellmond because she wants to become a proper servant and retainer for royalty.
-She is not talking to mice due to going crazy from stress, nor does she have interests in wearing bikini armor or butler costumes. (can't tell if this is what Elizabeth thinks, or if it's a very specific denial on Maheria's part... )

-Zona is a dwarf with pink hair.
-Zona's mother was a servant who had an affair with an aristocrat. Aristocrat had her marry one of his other servants, gives Zona's mother higher pay as hush money. Everyone was surprisingly happy with this arrangement.
-Zona only got "adopted" by her actual father because of her intelligence and looks as she was growing up. Zona is similarly happy with this as it meant she'd have better prospects in the future.
-Zona's father didn't know how screwed up the count who was drugging Amelia and wanted to sleep with Elizabeth (a girl younger than his daughter) actually was. Far from asking Zona to keep an eye on Elizabeth because the count was a powerful member of his noble faction, he would have tried to get Elizabeth out from under the count if he had known the guy's plans.
-Zona thought there was some kind of rivalry between her and Elizabeth for Van's trust and potentially affections at one point... there was not.

-Other members of Elizabeth's party: Lanky spearman, Macht Hamilton. Plump sword & shield wielder Torus Zetz. Glasses wearing magician, Yosef Catalonis.

-Amelia stayed with the count even after losing the Duke of Sauron succession fight, and before her mind was too gone from poisoning, because she was afraid Rudel or Weedle would try to use Elizabeth for some crappy political marriage otherwise
-Amelia recognizes even Van's demon king familiars as Van. and does not mind no matter how many random eyes, carapaces, limbs and so forth he is covered in (dawwww... )
-Van generally tries to stop people from trying to force Amelia to recognize her mental instability, as it causes her extreme emotional distress (sobbing, hearing voices, passing out). Van is still not sure he can fully cure Ameila, so he wants her to first and foremost feel safe and happy, instead of potentially making her mental health even worse in an attempt to cure her all at once.
-Amelia's still going around leveling up now and then with Van familiars.
-Amelia's only jobs before meeting Van were [Apprentice Maid] and [Maid] (again girl from knight's house who went to work for Duke instead of becoming a knight, which led to Duke of Sauron sleeping with her and her having Elizabeth, is her backstory)
-Amelia's had [Magical Lady] and [Transforming Lady] jobs.
-Her mental corruption is level 7
-She has a [Self-Enhancement: Husband] skill.

-Kanako was very depressed that all of the Orbaume capital was destroyed, as she really wanted to expand her performances in the commercial district
-Luckily Van rebuilt part of the area in days, revealed Vidal, and all her fans pretty much survived, so she's happy again and thinks getting idol singing popular in Orbaume is going to be even easier now!
-Kanako thinks Elizabeth is a potential love rival for Van's harem, though she's not entirely sure, and generally thinks even if there's one or two more rivals with Amelia and Elizabeth, she's still got a good position somewhere in the middle of the "line". She's actually rather happy they joined the group, as she thinks they're possibly diamonds in the rough as potential idols.
-Kanako got [Dancing Earth Magic] and [Lyrical Water Magic] awakened skills.
-Kanako also has [Song Chanting], which lets her cast literal spells just by singing (Macross concert battle finale here we gooooo! )
-Her current jobs is [Great Magical Girl] (like Van's [Great Demon King])
-Kanako also got [Peria's Divine Protection].

-Mariam x Arthur is a thing, oh my.

-Lucas Hartner has apparently started finding out about all Talosheim and Vidal. He's losing hair, and having heartburn and stomach problems after finding out the Rank 16 Zombie Titan who killed legions of monsters and fought Guduranis is Brokus, hero of Talosheim.
-Borkus got [Pharmaun Gold's Divine Protection], even though he doesn't recall ever praying to the guy, just meeting him. Still, he figures it's fine.
-His [Sword King Technique] has awakened into [True Sword King Technique].
-He's also probably the strongest undead in terms of conventional abilities on the continent (Knochen is probably the strongest in terms of unconventional abilities meanwhile)

-Just A Mouse is now a [Devil Mouse Chief].
-The impmice live in little box nest apartments in the walls of Silky now.
-Maheria has been getting advice from Just A Mouse specifically because they are both scouts.
-Just A Mouse "speaks" with Maheria by writing notes with his tail.
-Just A Mouse feels an odd sense of kinship with Bone Man, as he does not realize despite being in a human skeleton body, Bone Man's spirit/soul is an amalgam of mice/rat ghosts.
-Just A Mouse can temporarily grow huge now with a [Gigantification] skill

-Knochen got some of Zeno's bones too and can now become a colossus.
-again, Knochen, being a decentralized army of bones, is probably the strongest unconventional undead, being the hardest to truly destroy.

-Hoover, the one good psychiatrist at Amelia's asylum, was protected by a demon king familiar during the Avalon/Guduranis battle
-Hoover actually realized pretty much the first time he saw Van that Van is insane to such a point there is pretty much no way to possibly return him to "normal". Van, who thinks he's perfectly "normal", is of course unaware of this.

-The Alda camp has sent oracles to try and warn Alda believers of Hadros Jahan joining Vida's camp in secret. However, since Hadros has such a strong reputation as a devout Alda believer, and is being so reasonable with his slow connection to Van (he did in fact save everyone, let's just see and judge him for ourselves, etc.), the warning is not getting across to anyone.

Character Summary 3/3 On April 4th, Volume 15 starts on April 14th.

"Yes, <Subject> (Van? Densuke? Need earlier part of the conversation.) will do their best to make sure that nothing happens to make Darcia feel lonely after Vandalieu gets married, and Darcia doesn't end up together with any characters other than Vandalieu!"

Van (?) no doubt means this in the "living together" way. Others may have... other ideas.

 

ありがとうございます。ダルシアのハーレムメンバー入りは、「そういえば入ってたね」というように、あからさまではない感じで入っていて、「いいのか？」という声に「何か問題でも？」とヴァンダルーが聞き返すような、そうしたいなと考えております。

Can you correctly translate this one too?
I'm kinda curious since i can't grasp enough with just google translate

 

Just imagine, if all of the Vandalieus got together and sung Motherlover.

 

Is a Butler Bikini in her future?

 

So the author is semi confirming what the whole universe knew was uninhabitable?

Or it could be the opposite and be something more normal as a maid's lingerie (which sounds sexual but I think it would expose less clothes than some Ghouls)

 

grand babies??? hundreds of them...

 

I dont know man... After arifureta I dont think I want an anime of death mage, they will ruin it

 

Arifureta anime was a new level of terrible.
But then, we have a lot of examples of adaptations done well. Overlord, Youjo Senki, Konosuba, to mention a few.

 

I agree there are good one and also i don't think arifureta was that terrible( cause nanatsu na taizai season 3 is even worse) but it wasn't great either, it was just a fun anime to watch.

 

Kanako skills finally began to awaken.

Surprisingly, the superior skills of Soil and Water Magic aren't the princess' series , but, as commented before, something like Dancing Earth and Singging Water Magic. My MTL couldn't translate the Earth one, the Water Magic, however, came out as "POETRY WATER MAGIC". How was yours mtl translated them, guys?

I noticed Kanako didn't learn Chant Revocation, instead, her efforts came out as something like "Singing/Song Chant", her spells are stronger if casted, chanted like singing a song LOL

Strange Kanako hasn't received Vida DP. Her life magic, now lv. 10, should awake after she receive it or sometime after.

Borkus is officially a rank 16 [lv. 63], his Swordmanship is now awakened twice as "True Sword King Swordmanship" after Guduranis fight - my guess of "Emperor Swordmanship" is a out

By the way, I know Van will win against Alda, but I think it would be wrong to not have any sense of crises, some of Van friends may die when fighting against the 5 color blades - even if he revives/undead them later.

We don't know what Alda will say to Heinz party through Elike, but is likely he does want to introduce a new replacement for Edgar as well as request him to fight together with and accept Amid Empire.

Also, we must remember that Nemesis Bell was a "mass produced artefact", how strong would be a more elaborated/especialized one? Will Alda upgrade Bellwood former sword with all old functions + Nemesis Bell features at a higher degree? It is good to remember Van Rapid Regenaration (via fusion in spirit form) had no effect in Isis due to him be half vampire. Van should not give Heinz the luxury to hit his main body.

While Heinz does suffer from side effetcs of Heroic God Descend, it is only AFTER the advent time limit;

He does posses more job changes than Darcia and his skills lvs are way higher with his Swordmanship awakened twice, since he acquired Bellwood DP I roughly calculate his skill lv. being 2 or 3 before Guduranis Event and now lv 3 or 4 after it. Armor technique likely awakened twice, life-light magic awakened once and at a reasonable level by now;

He does have Evil Supression Skill which is effective against Van, also, Van does take extra damage from artefacts, even more the ones used against guduranis,due to his DK title - Demon King Seals are effective too, if Van lose, his soul CAN BE sealed - , his Champion title combined in the middle of this have the a negative effect of providing futher damage against him;

Heinz is going to be more proficcient with Heroic God Descend later and whatever happens Alda will sacrifice as many idiots as it takes for the 5 CB to run away, just like many gods did 100 thousands years - including Zuruwarn and Zantark - ago to protect Bell, Pharmaun and Nineroad.

I am looking foward to a big fight. Also, if final-like-battle Alda manages to set up a quasi-divine realm in the battle field he himself may appear in the middle of the fight while Van has his focus on Heinz and join the fight like "It is now or never".

Well~ it might be difficult for Van acquire a new DK job to give another mounstruous amount of atributte values or instant lv 100 like DK/Van jobs and Demon Ruler, but Van Long Distance Control by awakening twice removed his continent range limit to no less than planetary range limit now. He can gain more EXPERIENCE POINTS NOW! HIS NEW JOB CHANGE IS COMING SOON! I hope it does come in the next new volume chapter 04/15. [Next chapter coming 5 days is another Characters Introduction, this volumes had a large number of chapters as well as characters after all]

 

Van should get the guider of guiders job, guider guider or something like that.

 

Guidance Master may be it, Smok3. Champion Guider wouldn't be bad though.

Lucas Hartner seens to getting bald, heart strokes and stomach ache after discovering Borkus is one of Talosheim Heroes 200 years ago. I am almost feeling sorry for him XD.

When his mind properly Reboot will he properly listen to his daughter? I get the feeling he may still despair quite a bit further and not only would he apologie about his ancestor betrayal in public, but blame all of duche's misfortunes as his ancestor's and acuses Alda Harmonious Faction altogueter. The touch finalé would be trying to bring out a (political) marriage between his daughter Urz and Van to "save" the duchy and himself.

Alda faction is trying to alert people via divine messages through their priests in Jahan duche, but Hadros popularity, competence, charisma and aparent mild and reasonable, non-radical support for positive policies for Vidal Empire make people bend towards him than some histerical, paranoic priests.

 

Heinz wasn’t close to being Van’s equal at the Gudu fight and since the Gudu fight his stats have multiplied by 5 if not more now in the year that has passed. Also Van can’t be sealed by Alda due to the group soul skill. His soul is in every single divine protection and even over on Origin as a god. Alda would have to take care of every single fragment of Van’s soul to seal him which he can’t do since he can’t get to Origin even if he did get all the ones on Lambda.

Another thing to note. the dull blades lost Edgar who was their scout / midline fighter who attacked and created openings for the others. Without him they’ve probably lost about a third of their party cohesion and strength.

If Alda was willing to risk himself he would have already done so. Also along those lines, he can’t descend due to using up a substantial amount of power making that dungeon for Heinz. Another thing is that the army of heroes he was counting on, the half in Orbaume can be considered lost to the enemy thanks to Vida and Miriam. The ones on Amid, we have no idea how many of them are still going to be loyal what with the empire starting to fracture because of Peria and Botin’s divine messages and Alda doing his best to suppress their priests to stop the word getting out.

The major conflict for the upcoming volume ain’t the fight with Alda it’s the aftermath. Setting up world management and other things like dealing with Rod and his system.

 

reading champion guider gave me an idea.
van guides bellwood. Bellwood is a champion too, so it should be possible.
it would be a nice slap in the face for alda and Heinz, their strongest force easily taken from them and added to the enemys ranks. best, it happens when Heinz does descend just for Bellwood to not help but hinder him.
do not ask me when van is going to have the chance to guide Bellwood but it would be such a perfect slap in the face that i want to see it.

 

Even if not perfect, as I already said before, Alda can introduce someone through Elique to fill the scout hole in the party, someone with enough ability as not be a hindrance. Coordination skill always can help diminish their cooperation problems. Remember, just like Hendricksen, if you take a look at his status, has acquired about the same strenght as Mikhail, many heroes in Amid Empire have reached this same level.

Alda hasn't been cornered enough yet to move his ass from his divine chair to enter personaly in a fight. However, while he cannot use/waste energy to descend himself, it IS possible for him to fight in a PSEUDO/QUASI - DIVINE REALM.

Remember Botin Defense in Dark Continent where gods, other than subgods, like spatial ones, were also in the battlefield whitin the range of a pseudo-god-area/pseudo-divine realm. Neither Alda or Nineroad went there because they are quite old fashioned and there is some fear about them, super important gods, getting injuried for nothing, but it was possible for them to move their asses and stay inside the pseudo divine realm range without spend any power for it.

After Van finishes guiding Orbaum population and steadily avances towards Amid Empire, guiding the native population's great majority and defeating the enemy army & heroes, Alda will be gradually cornered against a wall.

I think there may be a time in the future his believers and heroes will fall sharply to a small number&territory and he will feel the need to take even more bold moves and dangerous bets even more so when there is nowhere for Heinz (or himself) to run.

 

You can’t just randomly toss in someone and expect him to the spot that has opened after a decade. Edgar, Heinz and Delilah we’re together as a party from the very beginning. Just because someone is at Mikhail’s level doesn’t mean much. That is only at the level to fight rank 11 monsters.

Alda has too big of a responsibility hung around his neck. Unless he completely snaps he isn’t going to destroy Lambda just because of Van. None of the gods in the Botin defense force were raising heroes to conserve their power. That says that even descending in a quasi divine realm takes some power.

 

Guidance can turn enemies into allies, but it's not simple or automatic. They need to be open to guidance in the first place, and Van's Enticement skill might not work on Bellwood well enough.

Bellwood realized that he objectively has no good reason to exist anymore and that he caused lots of suffering whenever he actually did stuff, so he demoted himself to MacGuffin so he could exist as little as possible forever. Since he fears guiding others to ruin with his leadership, he's determined to never show himself as a character, much less give advice. Unless he regrows a spine and finds a new purpose in life that actually helps, he's not going to get better.

So if Destruction Path doesn't ease Bellwood out of his funk, I don't see how Van could guide him. The way I see it, Van's guidance is about enriching life and improving society as a whole by uplifting and inspiring each individual and letting them explore their full potential, but that largely depends on people putting in enough effort to grow and improve themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Excellent point. I think Alda won't like fighting in person, but eventually it will be his only option. It would be especially useful for descending to Vidal after his crusaders force their way in.

But does Alda have any better ideas? I think not.

 

as i said, don't ask me how and when van has a chance to do that but the result would be too hilarious to not want it to happen.

if they can that is, but it sounds like one aldas plans and of course he doesn't have a back up plan.

 

I swear that now I want to see the tyranny storm and the sheets of five (four) colors gathered in the same room.