Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. toxinpsd

    toxinpsd Well-Known Member

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    That's highly unlikely to the point of impossibility due to his [Root] which allow the dk fragment that he absorb as part of him. This is also the reason as to why the fragment recognize van as the main body.
     
  2. YuexHajime101

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    Ok but after reuniting with the other parts do they even need him anymore? They seem parasitic in nature and he’s just their vessel if Van were to gain all the parts the demon kings consciousness will awaken at that point he wouldn’t need Van anymore and he would most likely dispose of him from the inside.
     
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    Van count as dk
    as long gud soul ,power ,memory ,instinct dont merge i dont think gud can take dk part
    Anyway van soul has been
    ( repaired? ) to the point that his abnormal soul became more and more abnormal with dk addition in it soul permanently(my english seem pretty bad sorry )
     
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    Like i said if van devour the soul fragment it will become part of his soul and due to the OP [Root] skill which is the awaken version of [Abyss] skill it allow the soul that he absorb to become his alter ego/part of his being.

    Also i don't want to be rude or anything but please read the novel and catch up to the lastest chapter.

    Ps. Don't skip side story, appendixes and character summary cause it have minor to major details.
     
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    YuexHajime101 Active Member

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    I’m still debating wether or not I want to drop or continue this novel so for now I’m not reading it.
     
  6. Zing

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    Just drop it, it ain't worth your time.
     
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    When Guduranus revived because of Rodcourt handing out fragments of his soul as power ups, he tried to merge with Van to reclaim his parts. However, the parts recognized themselves as parts of the Demon King Vandelieu, and instead all the parts that Gudu had recovered were stolen by Van, letting him swiftly defeat an incomplete Gudu.
     
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    If you are looking for a Harem novel with romance then get out of here, I recommend it, Van does not even understand romance (although ironically he is a very detailed man and an expert in praising and pleasing women), if you are looking for villains To those who are easy, hate you, you should also go, because here even the most exaggerated and cruel villain has a background, a motivation and a philosophy of life (that although they are unjustifiable from his perspective, he has it from his perspective), and more important, even if they used shortcuts or traps, or abused their power, basically everyone forged their own way, almost no one was given things, their true sins were not their bad actions, they were their incompetence, arrogance and ignorance born of having I've been at the top of the food chain too long. really give this novel a chance, there are many good things, it is a heavy read but one that is enjoyable.
     
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    I know not to expect romance from this novel I am however expecting him to end up with most of the woman and for them not to end up with other people. Your wrong tbe villains are really easy to Hate Alda the god of reincarnation etc and they are not unique about having a background philosophy and motivation most villains do. Some villains didn’t exactly forge their own path for example Kanata. Since you claim their true sins aren’t their bad actions explain to me how his actions are due to ignorance or arrogance and and not the actions themselves?
     
  10. Eddy andres

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    Kanata was a human garbage I cannot deny you, but from his point of view, this was a unique opportunity in life, he is in a world where he is much stronger than the vast majority of the population and that basically he will be able to do it. who wants without apparent repercussions, just kill someone as he has been doing it with the brave for years and he will be rewarded with a perfect life, in his situation many people would have shown their true colors, we do something similar when playing video games. and I mean justifiable not from the point of view of our morality, but from the morality in the society in which the characters live, from a legal point of view, Gordon and Heinz did nothing wrong, you yourself said that you considered partially correct Arda's actions and almost all the terrible actions committed by purebred vampires are committed daily by politicians and self-righteous figures in a legal manner.

    Although there are villains who simply believe that because I have the power I can do it, there are also antagonistic characters such as the Emperor of Amid and several of the dukes who committed horrible acts in the name of the good of their people.

    but I understand, no matter how much something is justified, the result has not changed.

    worlds apart, as will be the defeat of Arda, we have already confirmed that his only relevant ability is useless so his only actions are to use brute force, which would be the equivalent of throwing punches at a bucket of acid or using his mana defensive, the equivalent of letting yourself be sold and putting the world at risk.
     
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    That's interesting I always just though that gud was a master magician and since it's been said before that other attributes can replicate parts of death attribute it was just that gud using all attributes in cunjuction like heiz and other examples of people combining attributes, example you can make a fire ball surrounded by lighting or some other mix of attributes for spell,more expecting example undead can be made by life attribute vida and Lichs being the best examples of it being done well it's probably more accurate to say death attribute can replicate other Attributes, to some extant, one of those the avatar things kinda, because of the limitations death attribute seems to only get the basic parts of the attributes depends of course we have only seen a limited amount of the possibilitys and death attribute is a baby in comparison to other attributes on knowledge of how it all works limits etc.

    Guess it was all just a unique skill for guduranis,
    since unique skills are basicaly whatever and a outlier to most rules not that's a bad thing it explains and adds way more than it is a convenient scape goat for the author since it does kinda make sense that maybe a person can only cast a few/one spell of certain attributes a specialist basically being good in only a few parts of something and or certain things under a umbrella.
    Can't wait for the next arc
     
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    It is not a plot hole, the elemental spirits was a unique ability of one of the reincarnated ghosts, the fact that the magic of death can have effects from other attributes, it is due more to the magic formulas, at the time From doing magic the magicians generate magic circles to do things automatically or cause specific results as mentioned by Van when creating the generator circle of the undead, and during Avalon's arc he discovered that if you implement some magic formulas of other attributes in the magic of death, it is possible to cause similar results to that attribute, but until now it has only been shown in the space attributes and I think that Life may work with the time attributes allowing to reverse damage and fire when manipulating heat .
     
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    It was stated a while ago, back when Van first learned magic, that any atribute can do things that look like other attributes. For instance, a master of fire magic could freeze an entire lake, and a water attribute master could control lava. Death magic has spells like a fire that absorbs heat, which could be confused for the fire attribute. Basically all it was saying about Gudu is that he kept all information about what he could do so well hidden that people thought that he had more powers than just death magic.
     
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    Been re-reading the ghoul village part where Van was learning none-attribute magic. The explanation for attributes was given in a sense that a water attribute mage could manipulate liquids. Lava was liquid fire and water attribute mage could manipulate it.

    Later on, during Avalon arc, it was explained that most attributes could replicate the spells from other attributes. Hence why when Avalon gained Death Attribute at the cost of all of his other attributes, he was still able to use most of his spells like before.
     
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    So are there limits on the attribute manipulation you can do since it all seems to be based of your knowledge and skill with it so can gods use this too since it's pretty obvious gud Did and we do have examples of the water ice thing but not sure about the lava (probably just crappy memorie)but still does this mean if the more skill mastery and knowledge you have the more you can control all attributes and basically replicate other attribute effects theoretically .
     
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    I’m not quite sure what you’re asking but the extent one can use their attribute depends on their knowledge, their training, and how they grow. As well as application with other skills. The first demon king would use it in conjunction with the ability to make artificial spirits and people believed that was him using other attributes. People think Van is using fire magic when he’s just using his magic in conjunction with Levia.
     
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    They can't, even probably gudu soul can't invade van's mind, cause he is the great demon king(?)/true demon king(?). The [root] skill and [grotesque mind] skill also helps
     
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    Can bakunawa take jobs?? Totally forgot. Cause if he can, then it is better for van to take [tao tie] job before bakunawa does
     
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    He can't, Bakunawa is pure demi-god the system doesn't support them

    Hey Guys. I'm new here and i'm happy that I can discuss this great story here, it just sad that I joined when WN will end soon
     
  20. Zing

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    I dont think it really matters as long as the author keep on writing.
    Sure it will be sad to part with Van and Lambda, but it also means that we get a chance to experience a new story thought up by the author.