Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. w1ck3d

    w1ck3d Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking forward to this latest stunt blowing up in Alda's face, after his holy kingdom learns these two idiots are responsible for Guduranis' resurrection.
     
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    Ooooh noooo, Alda's heroes are capable of killing a rank 10 among all, now they have enough strength to fight one of the castle's maids, we can only kill them or make them the official hairdressers and nail clippers of the royal family. On the other hand, I don't know what to laugh about anymore, if the current state of robocorte, or the state of the whole nation of cannon fodder. We also continue with the gossip in bed, who will be next? Mei? uruka? Vigaro? Scheneider? Gabriel?

    Long live Lady elizabteh
    Now I imagine Aradia saying I'm hungry, only for Diana to jump and start killing monsters with her spear, and Aradia dedicates herself to catching them with her mouth like a puppy, while Bakunawa who was several kilometers away comes running while says: food from heaven, food from heaven. ps: is Deena a kind of reference to the marivilla woman?
     
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    Sooooo, Alda suddenly became more likeable. I wonder if it is because of all the face stabbing :blobhero:.

    I wonder, Roddy's system can be actually still be separated from Lambda? I can't remember if it would just hurt him (AKA like tearing an arm off) or just plain kill him. 'Cause if it just a 'flesh wound' then maybe the tenshi trio may actually be planning that, as a hearty fuck you to both Roddy and possibly Alda if disconnecting the system also cancel out the blessings. And also make him beg and squirm like a worm before Vida to include everyone elses soul in her system :blobowoevil_horns:.
     
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    Sparteh The Devourer

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    Just to make sure, how many rank 10+ individuals does Team Van has?
     
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    Man, I know Alda is a selfish self righteous idiot, but that REALLY feels like playing with fire in a bad way.
    Rod is connected to so many worlds that any messing with him is potentially messing with those worlds, and all it would take is for 1 worlds that is better developed and populated to get upset to trigger another more devastating inter-dimensional invasion that he can not win. let alone 100.
    If alda is recruiting them, then I would not be surprised it it becomes the requirement to be a baker in Vidal soon enough. But over 30 names followers as 10+
     
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    A hero to Alda is a above avarega soldier for van, not even good or elite just decent.


    The crossbow spirits were rank 5-6 like 80 chapters ago And they shoot like a ak-47 or m16 etc and van guiders like doubled so they are at worst case scenario rank 8 likely 10ish And they are the fodder in vans side, worst case scenario bring out the minigun on steroids Arbelist and golem catapult who are like rank 12 at worst,200ish chapters ago van made some basic metal fodder golems and they were rank 7-8 so likely rank 11-12 now and these aren't even buffed have demon king familiars upgrades or are using special abilities, special ammunition and the like.

    Just the recently acquired heroes from you know who + some of the less powerful groups and characters should handle like 80+% of Aldas forces of rank 8-12 power with barely a sweat

    Most of Aldas gods can be taken care of by the mid fighter or a few upper tier of vida fighters or by a few upper vida gods only problem for van is like 20 people tops more like 12-15,The upper gods and top fighters heinzs alda etc but as we know main Vida fighters got this.

    I very severely underestimated Vidas side just so it can be fair you know for the Alda fans.
     
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  7. LokiTheAccursed

    LokiTheAccursed Well-Known Member

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    Alda has fans?
     
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    is another name for fans of Van who want Alda of a good fight so that the novel lasts longer
     
  9. dio

    dio Well-Known Member

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    Did Alda make Rod give a blessing to Heinz? If so Van has another power-up coming ~
     
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    Alda's blessings are more passive that affect growth a little, it is nothing as broken as Van's that gives you access to jobs and evolutions and reduces bottlenecks
     
  11. hillo315

    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Ooh, tinfoil hat time! What if the prophesy is about Mei?

    That's really mean, Alda! But after all Rodcorte has done... that sweet, sweet catharsis...:blobuwu:

    At this point, I don't see how Van can't go back to that dungeon, be it by force, by infiltration, or by clever reality warping. He is a dungeon-busting, dreamfaring god-killer, and his most fanatic minion can bend space into a pretzel. And they got stronger since the last time Alda's forces tried to keep them out of that very dungeon.

    Not even that. Van's subordinates are even stronger than what their ranks suggest.
     
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    It is easier to ask how many rank 13 or + Van has... Van was able to give his divine protection to more people after acquiring Dream Guider Job and he can give his DP to almost anyone guided now ever since he got Bestower Job.

    Aside from kids, the weakest people in Van side are as strong as C class adventurers, B class citizens too are pretty common by now, A class are ridiculous many if you do cont his tamed monsters (like hundreds of demons from the very dephts of Zakkart's Trial).

    Don't forget the various old races with ranks in Southern part of ban gaia as well as the majins variants in Dark continent counting in thousands of people. The numbers of rank 10 are just too ridiculous to count.

    By the way, talking about kobold and goblins nations, they were getting the benefits from van guidance for a few years... and the number of people gainning Van DP must have first appeared after Dream Guider and increased exponentialy after Bestower job.

    Goblins and kobolbs, aside from HIGH species, are very fertile and grows quickly. I think it is alright to say they already recovered plenty from Ravofifard damage and are going to grow more. There is over 2 years since the masses in Vidal Empire got van DP and there are individuals blessed with their gods too. I won't fell surprised, for example, if the heads of each of those Noble orks houses in Noble Ork Kingdoom are all rank 10 by now, taking in considaration they still spent time rebuilding... reorganazing the country. Budarion may as well ranked up to 13 by now.

    If you still ask me how many rank 10 exists in Van side... taking into count Vida races with both jobs&ranks, undead, as well as citizens (ban gaia soulth region+Dark/Devil continents - Zantark city and Garuthland) and subordinates (monsters and demons) Van pretty much possess over 10 thousands rank 10 individuals by now.

    Those with rank 11 or + should be a few thousands... rank 13 and so on several hundreds at minimum... The guys once in stone statue state together with the pure breed vampires in vida resting grounds + several majins in Majin country + majins in "zantark" city and other races who got into rank 13 too (female ghouls blessed by Deeana and Tiamat) may make Van possess over a thousand rank 13 forces.

    The numbers will be always increasing the long Alda or Van prolongues this momentaneous peace. Van is at advantege of course :blobpeek:
     
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    Dont forget about Guf which is a rank 16. Rank aside they also have an upper hand in terms of leveling. Monsters that have both a job and rank system are known to be stronger than those without. The normal people that Alda has is inferior to Vida's race because it was made to become stronger in order to adapt to the current Lambda.

    And if they prolonged the wait in the upcoming war. The other death attribute users would be stronger than they were currently. Meh kun might become the second coming of Van and even Mari. And also power ranger Hiroshi.
     
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    You say it as if it's not always tinfoil hat time in here :blob_grin:
     
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    please, tinfoil hats are so last season, it is all about tin foil face masks this year :(
     
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    Remember that raising a rank after 10 is difficult even with the protection of Van, it is little that there are hundreds of rank 13, maybe 100 rank 12 and that if they go to the other continents to farm.

    but we must not forget the three least mentioned forces, the demigods, that including the children of Tiamat there must be a couple of hundred thousand dragons of ranks 8 to 12. purebred vampires that must be at least 10 20 beings of rank 13 and up. and most importantly, those turned to stone on the bed of life, which must be a dozen rank 14 beings and some rank 15 and several beings at the level of heoric spirits.

    and most importantly, Alda doesn't even know well about those last 3 forces
     
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    Hmmm... alda's heroes can defeat rank 10 monsters?:hmm: Is it individualy or as a group?:sweating_profusely: A normal rank 10 monster or a multi-skilled rank 10 monster?:blobflag:
    But lets be real here, what kind of "seal" can block a person who can move dungeons and magical mountains! !!??:blob_catflip:
     
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    Actually.... Last time her rank was shown up it was rank 14. After Van eats Gudus he got more powerfull than Gufa in terms of mana, this way Gufa, as "the fox" can borrow power from Van, "the tiger" gainning Van DP.

    Those with rank and jobs aren't monsters! They are Vida's Races! You RACIST :blob_catflip:!!

    Sorry disappointing you, even if she get a race change to Dark Human she never will reach Van mana level... or lowest class god mana level.

    I don't think Tiamat made many children this last 100k years, and nothing was said about them having thousands (tamed) monster dragons...

    There is 23 pure breeds remainning with Vida. 22 were in stone state + unsealed Zod. At worst all 22 were still rank 13 when they were despetrified. I think some were rank 14 at least. Zod was lv 95 - rank 14 when he turned into abyssal specie. After his fight in Botin Defense Games he is pretty much rank 15 now.

    Majin Country has 1 thousands majins. Because the great majority of them are a few thousands years old over half of them should already been rank 10 before Van ever came to exist in Lambda. Just because Godwin - rank 14, Ravofivard arc - had Xerx DP it don't mean there weren't other rank 12/13 individuals alive.

    Also, there must be many majins in statue form at rank 14 (pretty much Godwin parents and granparents) and some at rank 15 who survived and fled with Vida after the war.

    Zantark side, the majins have increased their numbers (Tiamat work:blobsmirk:) and because they didn't possess a resting ground like place like Vida, the majins who are somewhat tired from living can't turn themselves into stone statues. The result of this is a population of several thousands majins varing from a few thousands years old ones up to majins with dozens thousands years and majins close to 100k years old living in a place full of rank 10 monsters... even those without DP had more than enough time to reach rank 13. There should be many at 14's and after Zantark+Pharman cleaning 100 years ago (vs Ravofivard, Luvesfol, +3 evil gods and all their monsters believers) the numbers of ranked up guys increased, there may even be some rank 15 majins there. Thats reason why I do think there are as many rank 10 and higher beings in Van side as i said before.

    It isn't for nothing that Peria came to the conclusion that even if Van never existed and Ravofivard caused some more painfull damage to the southern region, the southern region wouldn't fall and the vida races hidden in dark/devil continent would further increase their numbers, strengthen themselves and their gods, further populate those areas and eventually attack Alda again.

    If history were diiferent like that (including Rodcorte not doing anything stupid like reincarnating people) then Zuruwarn could have planned to go back sleep like Peria and leave info collection to Ricklent. Zuruwarn aiming to heal and recover power to once again open a path between lambda and another world (not managed by Rod) and get even a few champions or a couple of champions to raise against Alda could have been possible.

    I imagine ricklent, 50k years ago, going to Zantark place while Zuru is slumbering, tell him the good news, give some people his blessing, mediate things a little bit between zantark faction and pharmaun (after striking him 100 times) and go back to work.

    It is good to remember: Heinz, despite killing Darcia and left her baby to die and defecting to Orbaum there would be only 2 ends for him. One is to eventually get caught by gubamon and turned into a zombie together with his party members, another is to die in his second challenge in Trial of Zakkart - I can't see him passing... breaking the barrier to defeat Gufa embodiment and more important, Heinz, as a lick ass of Alda wouldn't accept changing sides and would get defeated by fighting against a serious Evil god at Great god level at its own homeground and labirynth on top of that.

    Alda, losing heinz in trial of zakkart would be angry, but unable to do anything. Even if he still agrees with Nineroad reform and try to change things, Hihiryushukaka would order his 3 pure breeds to make more moves to harass alda like new mirg x Talosheim tragedies.

    Bellwood would never wake up again. After all, it was because of Van that Alda made his trial dungeon and put Heinz there.

    Following such reajusted time line, Storm of Tyranny could still be sent to dark continent, get blessings and if there is any spatial mage between the majins blessed by ricklent with thousands years of experience - awakened, high leveled, Spatial magic - they could bring him with them and use him to teleport all those persecuted vida races to another place, if not dark continent then a distant and safe island between the 2 continents. This or have such high ranking Majin go to check southern region by himself, after all he isn't monitored by Amid Empire, just Schneider party whitin amid territory.

    The majin would see the damage caused by Ravofifard, make some diplomacy and suggest bring in imigrants. Then just work hard to teleport all vida races villages in Amid Empire to southern region. After all of this Schneider can choose either or not rampage in Amid while releasing slaves as well as defect to Orbaum, free Sauron Duche and keep fighting against Amid.

    If, after 50k years of preparation, Zuruwarn already recovered and some new champions brought in and raised in secret are ready, the time for war can beguin.

    Well, If they can do some work to increase the public image of Vida races like have Scnheider go to Orbaum and work there after cracking Amid and releasing Sauron duche and slowly increase awareness of vida races, like ghouls, suceeding in making a autonomous region for them at very least, and bringuing many changes in a few more decades, they may beguin THE WAR.

    Well, details aren't really necessary, and even if Zuruwarn doesn't get the ideia of healing himself to procure for new champions he and Ricklent would still make their moves and since Lissana had a plan to go back to vida before meeting Schneider, Storm of tyranny would eventually have to make risk moves too.

    A third divine war ( 1° VS Guduranis, 2° Alda VS Vida) would eventually happen and Vida forces... mainly Zantark&Cia&Zuruwarn&Ricklent&Peria(finally showing herself after the last war openning to spread further chaos and shock between alda forces) - unless they make contact with southern region countries beforehand - would have the advantage of attacking first and not asking latter like Alda once did and the advantage of quality over numbers, many majins and other long lived races with the same strenght of average and veteran S class adventurers and other mythical beings could attack and finish in one slope Amid Empire. The oracles and support of 3 great gods (Zuru, rick, peria... No ones understand Zantark) and Pharmaun too could somehow help them estabilish they legitimity and draw public attetion and support as well as calm people down that this isn't the end of the world, Humm... Schneider may need to go to Orbaum and work a couple of decades there to gain public support to ease, calm and atract people to his side later on...
     
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    I find it funny that Heinz and Asagi(?) are focused on countering Van's DA magic, I know that it's only because we are readers that we know just how powerful he is without his DA magic, but I'm really looking forward to see them find how wrong they were in thinking that they were ready to take Van on.
     
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    I don't think Asagi even still wants to fight Van at this point. Actually with the Demon King resurrected and destroyed, is that one duke even still sponsoring that research?
     
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