Discussion Logic In CN Novels

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    birdboy01 Well-Known Member

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    I've read plenty of CN novels or more general, any novel under the Xianxia umbrella. One of the most popular tropes is that the females in the novels are always a superb talent no matter where they go, especially in the case of the heroine, where somehow she can keep up with the MC. Which is bullshit due to the fact her experience and prowess is obviously lacking in the plot.

    So why is that the world is always dominated by men, when majority of the time in these stories. It's a female with superb beauty talent always popping up left and right?
     
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    because out of the many cannon fodder of the world, you don't remember those with average looks.
     
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    This doesnt happen in every novel. Many novels have the female lead(s) falling far behind the mc, and the mc then having to help them along/introduce some plot armor bullshit to make them stronger. The FL will often be stronger at the start, yeah. But who isnt stronger than the mc at the start of a CN novel, tbh? You need to remember the mc often starts out as literal trash.
     
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    cuz them women stick to themselves and dont do much while the men like to go out and swing their dick around. Only reason.
     
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    Logic + CN = ?????
     
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    Females don't cultivate they practice parasitism.
    As male power increases female increases no need to put in effort.
    If female leaves harem future growth halts because she can't change hosts, and original host stops supplying energy.
     
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    when thinking about it, if it were not for many of the MC just falling from other earths because(most of the time) they are simply a waste of human beings and dies or simply brakes a teacup that were filled with water of the beginning, and booom, end up in other worlds or take over others bodies with none explainable god conquering cheats that gives them a unfathomable edge on the road of cultivation.. but still there are heroins, by relying on them own feet and breasts, managing to keep up with those MC's... i can only think that THEM(or others) are the true heaven's chosen on their original plane of existence, who were destined to be the monarch above all.. but then, here comes a perverted little Japanese with a taste from mass murders and turning everything to shit(expect for close vicinity where they occupies and settles down) and turning them to meat slaves, while flaunting "good morals" and their own stately pride as Japanese xD (in many many many, that is, not everyone ofc....... but many)
     
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    Because why not?
    Every cultivation novel tells you that cultivation is hard and you get no shortcuts.
    While in the next possible second an MC eats a mushroom and he shot up in powerleveles that easily that instantly.
    As for these peerless beauty females..
    Theyre groomed pets of their respective sect.
    Theyre pampered beyond believe.
    They get mushroom A to Z in a silver platter and gets their cultivation boosted pay to win style.
    Their skin is as white as snow because they never leave their homes and used every one of the most expensive beauty product they can find to make it that way..
    And their youthfull looks is a side product of the so called cultivation that retains youth and stuff.
    Keeping up with the MC is a given since they eat more resources for free in compared to the dirt poor MC that spends most of their time robbing people off their resources to even keep up.
    Theyre the dream trophy girl everyone cant get to make the reader feels special on how easily they fall for the MCs
     
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    CN novels in particular suffer from culturally integrated misogyny.

    IMO, it's because China is a country that's still getting over the side effects of its one child policy. Despite that old school wuxia novels are also pretty misogynistic, you'll notice a huge difference in tone in terms of how women are treated in those novels versus how they're treated in modern xianxia novels. A lot of wuxia novels came out of Hong Kong rather than China, and back then it was under the control of the UK and a huge trade center, so it's probably fair to say that HK was more open to western values like accepting that women are more than useless flower vases.

    Xianxia in general has less editing, more one-dimensional characters, and are all about how one dude trounces the world for his own benefit.

    A lot of modern xianxia stories have the same premise as Jin Yong's Return of the Condor Heroes: a young boy is mercilessly mistreated by those stronger than him but ends up becoming stronger than everyone else in the world. However, Yang Guo isn't interested in slapping the faces of others-- he pretty much just wants to be happy, and if he can't be happy, then he at least wants to live up to his role models (mainly Guo Jing).

    Yang Guo is very respectful of women, only has eyes for Xiao Long Nu, never leads anyone on or causes them to misunderstand his position, and even later starts wearing a hideous mask to prevent issues later on due to love for his wife; also, not everyone in the world falls in love with him. And despite that Yang Guo is the strongest ever, the villain in the first half of the story is a woman who can trounce most men in the world, and the work also features the very clever (if paranoid) Huang Rong. Whatever the flaws of ROCH, the characters all have individual personalities and motivations.

    TBH, I don't mind if a story features a protagonist who sleeps around, but a lot of xianxia novels feature an asshole protagonist all the women in the world fall helplessly in love with, as though the MC is the most alpha of all alphas and there's no point in trying to date anymore if you're a woman who happened to meet him. This is more of a problem of women existing in these novels specifically to increase the protagonist's harem capture rate and having no other purpose in the story. And since the MC is the most alpha of all alphas, only an ethereal beauty with immense talent is worthy of his notice, so that's the template these authors work with.
     
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    cus CN novels' rationality is represented by irrationality
     
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    THAT'S ILLOGICAL BY MEANS
     
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    Mahou-nii-sama Half shit and Half THE SHIT

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    There is no such thing as logic in CN Novels.
     
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    Ya i agree with u
     
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    Their beauty (and in fact, their humanoid appearance), is actually an illusion caused by brain worms that the MC is infected by.
     
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    Because once mr.handsome appears their brains stop existing.
     
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    Because most author are male who don't know how to write good female characters
     
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    The only correct answer imo. They just cant create a good female character.
     
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    This is really interesting.
     
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    To be honest, the male authors writing a harem of forgettable women somehow manage to write better women then the female authors writing a female MC.

    Female MCs in xianxia are always obsessed with romance, and make twilight look good in comparison.
     
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