Spoiler Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish Loves That Diving

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  1. Profoundtrucksama

    Profoundtrucksama Well-Known Member

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    Honestly zaratul seems to still be in a weak state,he seems only able to become a sequence 1 mythical form but not able to use any beyonder power that comes with it. All he has done till now is only create miracles.
     
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    I don't think he is gonna kill him, but whatever is happening in the Castle of Origin, most likely will injure him and prevent him from going after Klein for a while.
     
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    Was it always the main body of Amon? No wonder it's so op then because I don't steal the fate of Klein Moretti ???
     
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    Did you forget one of the Ancient Scholar abilities? They can never be in a weakened state since they can borrow strength from their past self.
     
  5. Profoundtrucksama

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    That's what I'm saying, he seems to be using ancient scholar power to become a sequence 1 blob of worms, since he was like that when he lost control. He has only used miracle and ancient scholar abilities even when he became a blob.
     
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    you forgot that it is only a projection and not its main body as I understood
     
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    I don't think it was ever stated there was a limit to how far in the past you can borrow strength from. Klein managed to summon Death Consul Azik, despite never meeting him. If Zaratul isn't using the Servant of Mysteries power is either because Cuttlefish is unwilling to spoil it or because there is some kind of restrictions to use it.

    How is that related to what is being discussed here?
     
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    What i'm saying is that he might be sequence 2 but is using ancient scholar power to become sequence 1, and he becomes a blob of worms since that was how he was when he was sequence 1.. thats the most powerful state he has been in, and it also fools his enemies to think that he's sequence 1. It would be disappointing if cuttlefish hid the power just for the sake of the story, Why would zaratul not use his full power when he can?
     
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    hmm this is just a guess, but maybe zaratul was never in a 'prime sequence 1 condition' to begin with. He tried to become sequence 1, failed, become mad monster, and only recently recovered(but never fully recovered).. And when he should've get some rest first to restore most of his power, he remembered he sensed something from klein, and his search for source castle begin in an abrupt way.
     
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    It never crossed my mind that Zaratul could have been demoted to a sequence 2. If it happened like you said, then it makes sense.
     
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    I was always wondering why zaratul cared so much about klein, but now it makes sense. I believe the man want to absorbs Klein beyonder characteristics to recover his power.
     
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    Zaratul is sequence 1 and he have used Servant of Mysteries power already against Klein, its was the mobius stripe like power that stopped Klein from escaping via Teleportation that sealed his starting point and ending point together.

    The reason he may not have used it against Amon is likely because it wouldn't have any effect on Amon (at least the part he demonstrated). All off Fool Pathway power lack direct offensive usage, and the Amon he is facing right now is likely the real body.
     
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    How are you certain he was not borrowing power from his past self?
     
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    because cuttlefish stated multiple times in the novel that Zaratul is a seq 1. Real Seq 1.
     
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    Did the author specifically say that our was it Klein thought?
     
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    So the Amon that was following Klein ever since he entered the Forsaken land have always been the main body.

    Klein summoned Zaratul and Arianna, Zaratul then proceeded to summon Roselle (shadow, seq 1), Antigonus (before he digested Fool Uniqueness) and Medici (by summoning an angel of Medici's army, Medici was able to remote control the shadow and project his power).

    So Arianna, Zaratul and Medici can be considered to be the real person, while Roselle and Antigonus are shadows.

    The 5 of them then proceed to attack Amon at the same time, Zaratual and Antigonus both launched miracles at him, Arianna slashed using her sword of darkness, Roselle launched knowledge at him and Medici was about to attack. This caused Amon to unleash his Mystical beast form and use his full strength.

    He used the Worm of Time ability to control time, to stop time for a few second, then used Error uniqueness power to force error to redirect all the attack at Medici, than he stole the next few seconds of Klein's ability to maintain Zaratul's shadow. This caused all the angel shadows to vanish.

    But now knowing that it was Amon's real body following him all this time, Klein suddenly realized something, and became relieved and no longer fearful. (Probably because he realized that Amon could never steal the source castle unless he says so, if he could have stole it, he would have done it already, since it was always Amon's main body with him)

    So likely Amon keep on crushing his escape attempt is meant to lower his confidence and make him gave up. Klein realized as long as he doesn't surrender to Amon, Amon can't do anything to him either, so they are just going to be stuck in a stalemate in the Forsaken Land.
     
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    Did we really need another chapter to just confirm he is the main body? :cry::cry:
    I guess the walk continues next chapter again.
     
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    Did this chapter just confirm that there is only one zaratul?
     
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    Amon can just use old fashioned way-torture Klein into giving up source castle.
    No need to go for walk across land abandoned by God's.
     
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    How?
    Even Medici called him "Little Crow", which means a junior, in this chapter isn't he?