Spoiler Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish Loves That Diving

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  1. skyfall3250

    skyfall3250 Well-Known Member

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    He said his digestion of the potion increased after the Mummy Heist.
    So he will require 3 months instead of 6 according to his feeling.
     
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    skyfall3250 Well-Known Member

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    You are being harsh. He already has terrifying enemies and needs to get stronger to defend himself.
    To do that he needs to digest his potion and to do that he needs to perform and manipulate situations. He needs to show off.
    If he starts being passive he is bound to get found out sometime as Backlund is literally crawling with strong sequence beyonders.
     
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    Did Sharron just pay Klein with the same gold coins he had used to pay Renee before? If so, that's amusing. The guy who thought he was manipulating others actually was manipulated by his own messenger to help her student for free.
     
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    Mate you talking like Amon has divination capabilities and there are thousands of beyonders. Amon doesn't even know what Klein looks like or what abilities he has. With how much he knows, he could mistake Kelin for someone of the Bard sequence unless the grey fog is a dead giveaway about a specific sequence.
     
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    Well atleast in this novel the others aren't dumb either. The half-gods who got bamboozled by Klein might be able to guess his sequence since they know that a few of them require a performance for digestion. Although it might not be much help.
     
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    Because the opportunity to digest the Secret Puppeteer potion appeared in Backlund. The Rose School already is his enemy, so there's nothing wrong in helping someone who can become a half-god and may help him against them. And just because they aren't incompetent, that doesn't mean they can trace Klein. Faceless and the Traveller ability to teleport are a huge cheat since Klein can just disappear and no one will ever be able to find him again if he stays low for a while.
     
  7. TianKrea

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    I have another question. Will Klein see leonard from nighthawks (the poet) again? If so around which chapter?
     
  8. AaIN

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    Leonard is mentioned a few times in volume 3 and 4 but Klein only meets him in Volume 5 in his rich man disguise.
     
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    Problem is, it is a dead give away.The moment amon meets klien he will know.The guy is a living fossil and you think he doesnt have divination capabilities?He definitely knows how to find klien,the guy came to there for klien just from feeling the fog he knows its the fool,
     
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    Klien is gonna fuck up in is addiction for performance and its gonna be really bad,the way he keeps playing on the line is gonna bite him back hard.He has to many close encounters for it not to happen,just wouldnt make sense.Hope it doesnt and he goes to half god and stop being a open stock market in the world.
     
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    Its already stated downing the same potions more than once makes the user more stronger with the higher chance of going out of control,amon is a simple example,the guy is a sequence 1 but he has taken more than 1 of his own sequence and thats why he so feared by everyone.The whole point of the sequences is to concentrate the beyonders effects in a human till they have a cumulative change in which the said human changes to higher form.Thus more ingredients = more power.
     
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    Mate you got it all wrong. Consuming same potion does not increase powers. Fors has consumed her potion twice and did not have any effect while Alger planned to marry someone and have a child to get rid of the extra effects if he was forced to drink the potion by the church. The chapter's called Hanged Man's ambition I think. This confirms that consuming the same potion doesn't increase your power.

    But, there are other ways to promote your power without promoting in sequence. Dunn Smith consumed the beyonder characteristics of sleepless pathway and was closer in power to sequence 6 while being sequence 7. Amon could have also consumed the beyonder characteristics(maybe even sequence 1) of Thief pathway instead of promoting to sequence 0.

    So, you idea is plausible just not in the way you think.
     
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    Amon is so powerful since he was naturally born with the "uniqueness" of the marauder path..he's the son of the ancient sun god,he was born with the purpose of carrying the marauder path which was causing the ancient sun god to go mad...That's why His power is almost close to that of a god... It has nothing to do with taking potions more than once.. it's even said in the novel that the other "Kings of angels" were jealous of Amon and Adam coz they were naturally born with the "uniqueness" of their respective paths
     
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    I seem to miss all the main points while reading raws or something
     
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    Everyone wants to get the fuck away from Becklund lol. Also, Madam Daly is going to become a gatekeeper.
     
  16. Sparteh

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    Could someone spoil which potions have Klien consumed and what powers they give? Also, those which should happen in the future?
     
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    I'll just give a rough explanation for every known potions ability except seer.
    Sequence 8 clown gave him improved strength, hand-eye coordination, better balance and control of his body. It also made him able to use Cards as a projectile.
    Sequence 7 magician gives him ability to make illusions and disguise his paper figurines as people, substitute position with paper figurines, some control over fire, a fire teleport ability(more like a blink then a teleport), ability to shoot air bullets. He can also transfer critical wounds to other places such as a heart wound to his hand.
    Sequence 6 Faceless gives him the ability to change his face, voice and height by a few centimetres. It also improved his already existing abilities.
    Sequence 5 Nimblewright master gives him the ability to see and control spiritual strings. As long as he gets close enough, he can get hold of these strings and if he does so for long, the person will be in his control. If he doesn't stop controlling for 5 minutes, they die. He seems to be able to control 2 puppets after digesting the potion. He also used a sequence 5 resentful soul blood senor(the pirate) as his puppet for a while.
    This point onwards is mostly educated guess, speculation and Klein's own thoughts.
    Sequence 4 Crafty Mage extends his abilities to be used with his puppets such as disguise his puppet like a faceless. Switch position with it like a paper figurine. This is Klein's speculation in the chapter that dropped around an hour ago.
    Sequence 3 Antiquity Scholar gives the person the ability to bring things from the past for a limited time. This ability has been demonstrated by Zaratul who is a sequence 1 but the ability matches with the name of the sequence so it's probably this sequence ability.
    Klein also speculated that the crafty mages abilty is expanded upon and instead of only being able to use his ability such as substitution and faceless on himself and his puppets, he might be able to use it with other people. He could also transfer his wounds to his paper figurines which as been demonstrated before by Zaratul but this ability could be in a higher sequence.
    Sequence 2 Miracle Invoker or Master of Miracles has very little information but Zaratul was able to come back to life after dying similar to Klein at the end of volume 1 which Klein thinks is due to the Antigonus notebook which is related to his pathway. So, what would be a greater miracle than coming back to life so I think it's a sequence 2 ability. The ability to transfer wounds to paper figurines might also be sequence 2 instead of 3.
    Sequence 1 is Servant of Mysteries and that's all we know.
    Sequence 0 is Fool and that's all we know except the gray fog which might be related to this pathway and I personally think is the unique characteristics of the Seer pathway.
    That's about it. There might be more info in the wiki but take everything there with a grain of salt since most of it is pure bs or fanfic.
     
  18. EmptyBox

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    Dunno why people are freaking out so much about Amon. Klein has been playing a game of cat and mouse with The Mother Tree of Desire and the True Creator for a while. There is nothing new about him having to hide from strong beings. I guess it's just because it was the first time we learned of how strong a High Sequence Beyonder truly is.
     
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    Mother tree of desire and true creator are gods in the spiritual world who cannot come down without alerting all major churches... Plus they will only be able to harm Klein through demigods of their respective churches..they cannot track if he kills someone and escapes.. but Amon isn't like that once you kill one of his avatars you will be permanently locked by him..he can harvest your life without you even knowing (sudden death at some point).. everything around you would probably be Amon.. from a small ant to a neighbor... He has almost infinite number of avatars...with this he can roam around freely.. he can become anything at anytime.. Amon also has a reason to go after Klein since they are of similar paths,Mr door also would be a scary opponent as would zaratul..(remember Roselle mentioned that you should be most careful of the angels and gods of similar path)
     
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    You just proved my point: The only reason you are freaking out it's because the author went out of his way to describe some of Amon's abilities. If the author bothered himself to describe how powerful the True Creator and the Mother Tree of Desire are you would also freak out and expect Klein to hide in a cave and never go out. Even if the Mother Tree of Desire and the True Creator can't go after Klein directly they can track him down and sent powerful enemies. The Mother Tree of Desire literally sent an angel after him last time, and the True Creator has a guy (We don't how strong he is) going after Klein as soon as he feels the gray fog. Both are enemies that Klein can't deal yet just like Amon.
    There's no need to be so worried about Amon since from a storytelling point of view, it makes no sense for Klein to meet him anytime soon even is he is on Backlund. And even if he does meet him, he shouldn't be able to steal the gray fog anyway, since it is an essential part of the plot.