Discussion ===== Mega Merged WW & Qidian Thread (1.0) ======

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by CoffeeMonk, May 22, 2017.

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  1. Prolux

    Prolux [Specifically Lazy] [Weirdly Motivated]

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    +1
     
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  2. TheUnbreakablePlotArmor

    TheUnbreakablePlotArmor Mt.Tai cannot see me, as you cannot see Mt.tai

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    qidian conspiracy has gone to another level
     
  3. Das

    Das Lazing around Devil's Luck

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    If we keep it from being profitable for quidian, they won't have a reason to stay. The sooner their gone the better
     
  4. Eruxol

    Eruxol Du-sollst――Dies irae

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    In independent translators we believe >_<
     
  5. pentadrian

    pentadrian Wandering donut

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    By the looks of it, Qidian's using the Pareto principle - 80% of the revenue comes from 20% of the reader base. However, this will be a mistake, because right now it's a voluntary payment system, which means people donate based on how invested they're in a novel, which depends on the original novel, the translator's english proficiency and the general plot of the novel - which means TLers can set their own pace and thus deliver a certain quality of work

    Once it becomes paywalled, people'll expect a regular pace because it's now an official business contract - which means quantity gets prioritized over quality and the overall experience drops. Personally, I'd prefer 5 well translated chapters/week to 10 half-assed chapters from Qidian
     
  6. AurionLute

    AurionLute Actively Inactive Nonmember

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    And this is why pirates still sail the seven seas...
     
  7. Stealth

    Stealth Elegant Lady

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    its wrong that we attracted the greedy sheep to our lawn, better keep them on their own lawn
     
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  8. Gatsu

    Gatsu Well-Known Member

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    WuxiaWorld is MY true home.
     
  9. vlue

    vlue Jaded Isekai-Reader

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    I have to admit WW is really ballsy picking a fight with a company with near monopoly on chinese novelsv :O
     
  10. gorlax

    gorlax Well-Known Member

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    I just delete all QI novel from my reading list #screwqidianinternational
     
  11. Danis

    Danis {(Harem Sect Leader)}{Trickster}&{Lurker}

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    pfft you think chinese novel is all we read and Qidian is the only source of chinese novel ..........................
     
  12. Goatse

    Goatse Well-Known Member

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    HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US. HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US. HE WILL NUT INSIDE US.
     
  13. Asestado

    Asestado Well-Known Member

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    This is what I call a joke, people I will say something that perhaps for you it will be funny:

    When you talk about intellectual property, you have to know that the translations are a derivate work with full rights after they have been approved by the original work, even in those cases in which the original work disapproves that derivate work, they can NEVER take property of which, so at most what they can do is start from zero all the novels they take back, because they have no rights over the derivate work to use it. This is the legal part of it.

    Now let's talk about extinction of contract, first of all because I haven't seen the contract so I can't say everything, but if they approved the situation of WW when they accepted the gravity translations then they have no motive to end the contract, this is not a cause of extinction in any case and it's illegal. However another thing is if they can just terminate the contract with WW. I would need to see it to be sure.

    So all leechers and normal readers should support wuxiaworld unless they want to see all their novels starting again. In fact even if a translator of wuxiaworld wanna leave for qidian, at least be intelligent, they have no rights over your derivative work, so you can ask as much as you want and if they don't give it to you, they can't use your derivative work.
     
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  14. Turbe

    Turbe Novel Leecher

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    InB4Lock
     
  15. VixenKiss

    VixenKiss Machiavelli the Princess

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    They didn't pick it, QI did. Pretty sure WW is just defending themselves.
     
  16. vrooave

    vrooave "act too close to people" they said.

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    was here b4 lock
     
  17. Drake98

    Drake98 Concerned Fan

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    So QI actually couldnt produce enough profit to cover their expenditures.. So they now want WW..?
     
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  18. Mystogrigen

    Mystogrigen 「Clever and Witty Original Title」

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    TL;DR: They want to back out of their deal. Lied about things. Want to build a paywall, and have us pay for it.

    Sounds about right?
     
  19. pukeofhurl

    pukeofhurl The Philosopher

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    @Asestado do chinese trade laws actually follow that cuz i mean alot of copyright laws arent followed in china
     
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  20. VixenKiss

    VixenKiss Machiavelli the Princess

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    Read RWX's post in his thread, it's the hottest thread rn...
    tl;dr
    QI wanted too much money, Ren said no, and QI is in a fit and will proceed to legal measures possibly.
    When you're as big as QI, I'm sure they will be followed.
     
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