Meteor skill - Is it just a giant Stone bullet?

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  1. Underload

    Underload <I need someone to scratch my back!>

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    Now I was thinking about the last tier of skills in all the elements like ice age in the water system, Armagaddeon in fire system, Typhoon in wind system, and Meteor for the earth system.

    And I found it a bit difficult to compare Meteor with the other ultimate skills.
    Afterall Iceage and Armagadeon are either freezing the water vapors or exploding air, while typhoon is just an extreme high/Low-pressure zone, the meteor is something entirely different.

    Now, meteor I think can be called three ways.

    1. By really sending mana into space and pulling them toward the target.
    Cons: The mana requirement is absurdly high. Though being one with earth could reduce it somewhat but just sending a mana line into outer space millions of kilometers up and then finding a meteor which will disintegrate while reaching earth surface is not worth anything.
    The mage will have to find a big enough meteor in space that won't disintegrate in the vast space and then make change its direction, make it travel fast and faster and after fighting the gravitational forces make sure that it will drop on the target.
    So I think it's not worth the cost.

    2.Is to open a gate in front of the meteor the mage has found in the vast space, connect it with a gate over his target and bam goes the nuke. While this method is better the aforementioned, but then the mage will have to be a summoning specialist too.

    3 Is to create a meteor of his own by collecting mana in the in earth atmosphere thousands of kilometers up and then convert it into a rock. Now this will take time, but because the mage won't has to specifically find and guide meteors from space he will have enough mana to create a meteor shower on his enemies.

    But then here's the question, isn't this kind of meteor just an oversized gravity powered Stone/Rock bullet?
    What do you all think? Please comment and let me know your theory while I make burgers.
     
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  2. Shratath

    Shratath Well-Known Member

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    you can make a meteor like madara :) Badass as f*ck :blob_sunglasses:
     
  3. Lazytophat

    Lazytophat Chicken Lord

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    oh... listen you should probably run now since you just exposed everyone who uses the meteor spell. Its just a giant rock bullet powered with gravity
     
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    Exactly, and a tsunami is just a big wave.
     
  5. Fooljastic

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    You forget how much damage 1. would do... the damage would be on a completly different scale than just a big rock dropping....

    Personally though I think that "Meteor" is a collection of mana given form.... basically yes it is an oversized rock bullet with possible extras.... if you go for option 1 you should be aware though that the possible damage is way above the others.....
     
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    Khatulistiwa An Egg Eternal

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    See how Sephiroth use Meteor
     
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    its the power of bullshit
     
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    Just imagine almost every earth skills.
    Stone bullet - basic
    Stone Javelin - bigger and pointy stone bullet
    Meteor - oversized stone bullet

    While the others are a bit lack luster
    Earth wall - a wall, nothing special
    Earthquake/Magnitude - just shaking the ground on their feet
    Earth Spike - somewhat kinda like a wall but made of stone javelins

    Then if you want something good, you need to add other elements.
    Magma - earth + fire
    Sandstorm - earth and wind
    Quagmire/swamp - earth and water.

    Nothing really stands out on earth based skill other than Meteor. Not to mention meteor is also a mixed magic, earth + fire + gravity.
     
  10. Nope34

    Nope34 {Nope Garden's Master~}{Flower and Water Guardian}

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    to call/change direction seems more like space magic
    all magic basically just upgraded version from it lower tier, example, ice age just lowered it temperature or AoE, fire magic use same concept but increasing the temperature, wind magic too
     
  11. DocB

    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

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    earth's ultimate is earthquake
    and if you that by flying you can evade, separating earth can create low pressure zone and suck you right in, beside the giant range
     
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    if you create a really large rock at high places (atmosphere), gravity will do the rest, like an increment of 9 meters per second. Just like in the movie, age of ultron where ultron plans to levitate a city so high, it creates a flaming ball of death to all.
     
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    Meteor. . . .
    you need the power of the "Life Stream!" to defend against that. . .
    now let's find some nuffians with the name of Aeries, Aerith or the likes. . . then have someone named Sephiroth do some thrusting from the behind. . . (that sounds ero)
    and then summon the Life Stream!
     
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  15. Molen

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    Well, in Ragnarok Online meteor is not the last tier of magic, and it is a fire property magic.

    there is a higher tier magic, Comet. i am not sure how thats supposed to work though, meteor and comet are similar. meteor is a rock while comet is mostly an ice block(why the hell an ice block considered a fire based magic)

    so...

    and why does meteor is considered earth element magic? Meteor is a rock, but in outer space, i am pretty sure that it will have different composition than the rock found in earth. also how does someone sent their magic power to call a meteor from a long distance away... not to mention that they have to find them first, without a telescope...

    in my opinion, highest tier of earth magic is utilizing gravity or something. earth has huge mass. mass = gravity. and mass = energy * speed of light^2. does that means earth element magic can cause nuclear explosion? and imagine what would happen if some earth magic user compress alot of mass into a blackhole, earth element is the strongest magic.

    i think fire and ice are the same thing, both of them control the "heat" energy in the atmosphere.
     
  16. TheSupremeManificentSovereign

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    I'm rolling with the assumption that we're referring to CD...sorry if I'm wrong

    I'll give my thought on your points.
    1. This is logical but flawed because we talking about magic so logic is more flexible
    2. This is impractical as it implies you know where the meteor is and you have to link both spaces, so no no
    3. This is the wildest most impractical of your points possible but wildly wasteful.

    My thought is a variation of your point 1
    when the spell is invoked, as a high spell, it temporarily uses the plane as a medium to attract a meteor floating in nearby space commensurate with your skill, mana capacity and affinity and using your spell as a focus to direct it to hit a selected target. This way the cost is limited to what is used to communicate with the realm to trigger the spell
     
  17. akki

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    isn't the ultimate earth skill usually something related to defence?
     
  18. LIGHTDX

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    You can call it a bullet, but a bullet of hundreds of tons and several hundred of large (maybe more), passing the atmosfere getting terrible hot and being pulled by the planet's gravity plus it's original speed (thought it would be gettin slower because air resistence). One of them had 9k and destroyed the dinosaurs and covered the air with dust for who knows years. Even a small one can be more powerful than a a few atomic bombs.

    Still, i agree that trying to find logic about how that spells works is not very feasible and the more feasible ones will be just releasin a big stone from a a few tens of feets, not summoning a meteor. I would rather other magics in it's place.
     
  19. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Even in sci-fi we use meteors. We call them mass-drivers, referring to the drives used to push the meteor (mass) into position. It's pretty much more powerful and uses less power than every other method of ground attack methods, such as particle beam, laser beam and railguns. Yeah, the easiest way to wipe out civilization is not to shoot at them, but to drop a big ass rock on them. There's also no defense against this unlike with particle beams, laser beams, railguns and missiles.

    As for magic, I'd split it into two types: summoning magic and ritual magic.

    Summoning magic involve summoning (teleporting) huge rocks up in the sky before letting gravity do the work. Considering that many stories using these tropes actually has their own rules, such as they can't create mass just with magic alone, summoning is the most likely explanation for meteor magics.

    Ritual magic is when you spend time getting the alignment of the meteor to be just right so that it can drop where you want it to be if given enough time. In this one, you don't summon meteors, you simply use magic to nudge existing asteroids in orbit to the required position.
     
  20. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    hmm try search ragnarok battle scene meteor storm
    despite it funny but it will give ya how powerful is meteor strike