Mobile sites are stupid. Site designer clearly don't understand how to design a website.

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  1. xiazixin

    xiazixin Well-Known Member

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    50% of screen space are gone, with camera video ads.:facepalm::blobfearful:

    Though eos R and RP are good cameras.
    Dammed my personal data got leaked some how.
     
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    Android? why not use firefox and use ublock origin?
     
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    saying nothing about the general situation but than again soulland in special they include commercials in their anime version
    so moneymaking on their side isnt really suprising
     
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    xiazixin Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think ads should at most only took up 10% of screen space.
    Not 50%.

    It's pointless, it's just playing cat and mouse.
     
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    The ad looks to have a close button. Does it not work? I ran into these kinds before and they usually close without problems.
    not really pointless. It's not like you are the one doing all the work. Ad blockers do a phenomenal job on block majority of the ads.
     
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    xiazixin Well-Known Member

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    Close button often lead you to an external site that 80% of times been malicious.
    And often than not they will come back ofter 5 to 10 sec with another ads, that's how they maximize the profits.
    The ads company really wants you to press that close button.

    That defeat the point of putting so much ads in the screen. Some sites really like to fuck their readers with video ads, banner that cover halve the screen.

    A server with 80mbps of speed, 2 CPU threads, 2GB of ram and 80 GB of hard disk cost about 10 USD per year locally. It's sufficient for text base translations.
    Seriously, what's the point of putting so much ads when people are going to ads block anyway.
     
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    yea, that's true, but what about this specific ad? I doubt that this site will have the ad with malicious links in them. Usually ads that have malicious links are the ones you catch on sites like illegal torrent or the ones that try to do phishing attacks of the type "your computer is infected" or try to encrypt your disk

    well, why would you need to care about monetization strategy of some site or an app? It's their problem. Just as much a web site has a right to put ads on the screen, you as a reader have a right not to see them. Adblocks actually are also effective for video ads and other type of ads. There are also some advanced features that block script ads. Brave has this kind of thing by default, other browsers can use some kind of ad block plugin that can also block them. I bet that if the ads were minimal and non-intrusive overall, then fewer people would bother with adblocks. But the ads like in your example just block your view and pop up from everywhere, so adblock is the response to that. In addition ads are just malicious as they capture user information and forward it for data mining. Screw ads.
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    That's nothing, I've seen some crappy mobile sites (webnovel) where the mobile website is more resource intensive than the desktop website!

    End of the day, most mobile websites are 2nd thought as they try to force people to download their webapps.
     
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    xiazixin Well-Known Member

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    that's so true.
    Though I must say, most sites with boot straps are fine, Since most bootstraps users have the idea of Media Queries with mobile webpage, but WordPress, the nested comments are just not readable after top 3 comments.
    And I have seen literally many sites widths broke with banner ads on mobile device, everything all over place.
    I'm thinking of bring this up on the next and up coming WordPress contributors day meetups, if there ever going to be one in the pandemics.

    Wordpress is just not optimize for mobiles.

    though their desktop sites isn't much better.

    I see them use VUE.js on desktop version of sites, did they change on mobile?
    I actuarily thought that VUE.js is the lightest on of the three frame works.
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    Media queries help make the sites scale better, but not everyone does testing across all devices. And if the programmer isn't setting max and min sizes properly for flowing elements, they can end up weird when someone enters more content then intended into the space.

    It isn't, but it still loads 5X faster than the mobile site. Which is ironic since usually mobile should be faster! (And I mean opening the desktop site on a phone is faster than the mobile site)

    I think they stopped updating their mobile site and just tell everyone to go get the app. That said, sure VUE is the lightest of the 3 big frameworks. But that is relative, it is still a HUGE footprint.

    In reality, most sites don't even need these bloated frameworks. When you are making FB with all kinds of reactive elements, sure it may make sense. But for most sites it is just overkill. The only thing that makes a reactive framework bearable to some extent is if they do server side rendering which most don't.

    for reference, one can see how much performance these js frameworks have here:
    https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2021/table_chrome_95.0.4638.54.html
     
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    yeah, true, setting each of those for different containers are not how most people wanted to build their sites and spent months polishing it.

    I actually thought that reactive websites are the new trends lol. and they are popular lol
    maybe I was wrong.
     
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    have you tried opera browser for android? i rarely got ads using opera, it even block most ads that somehow bypass other browser adblock

    dont use it in iphone though, it wont block any ads
     
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    Dont forget the current trend of mobile ui designs being used on both desktop and mobile under """cross-platform ui with mobile first ideas""". Aka not only does the site suck on mobile, often purposefully, due to wanting users to download an app, but also the shitty design propagates to desktop websites and they suck just as hard :)
     
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    That's still bearable. Did website designers ever thought that no one in this world wants videos on their sites to autoplay?
     
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    That's so true.
    Tired of seeing sites like that, some times really makes reading novels at aggregator sites easier. Miss the time when websites are design with flash and tables.
    Things where much friendly those days.
    All I need is a really basic text.txt file online to read.
     
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    You really sound like the kind of guy, that might just read a light novel in a .txt file from his terminal.
     
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    I agree with most of the comments. However, for many websites ads it is one of the biggest income sources. And if they have a great content i can survive those ads here and there. Of course if it is 50% of the screen it can be very annoying