Spoiler My Fiance is in Love with My Little Sister

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  1. MaliciousBurial

    MaliciousBurial Well-Known Member

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    Do not fret, since some people here spent the last 5 years waiting for the novel to end *laughs & cries hysterically*
     
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    To the bunch of people, I see watching the spoiler thread but not reading the book, try the novel. Even though it's really messed up the writing is very beautiful. I got into this because I read the first chapter of the manga and was hooked and I had to immediately find out what was next. And while I knew that the spoiler page was here I wanted to read through all the details so I could form my own conclusion for myself. I then spent the next 11 or so hours reading the entire translated version that was up to date. I found it worth the read, despite the number of terrible happenstances that the MC has to endure, it was told beautifully.

    Also people who try to say that Soleil and Sylvia are victims of fate, I disagree with you. Calling them that absolves them of the crimes they committed of the pain they caused Ilya. And when someone says something along the lines that they're victims as much as ilya it kinda makes me kinda mad because they actively chose to behave how they behaved and they had zero consideration for her feelings. And since we later learn that she's been hoping timelines/universes instead of just going back in time (the difference for those who are confused, I'll explain via a metaphor/analogy. Say the sortof universe Ilya is in is a tree and each timeline is a branch. If she were just going back in time in her own original timeline then she’d be scooting back on the branch she is already on. She is, however, falling out of the timeline (and by extension the branch)she's in when she does and falling onto a new one. We usually call each branch an alternate universe, like a universe where the nazis won or something we call that a separate universe for convenience sake but in actuality it's an alternate timeline in a encompassing universe, I.E earth, the solar system, etc.) it's impossible to say that things are fated because, because while individuals follow a specific pattern of behavior based on their personality which is based upon their nurture (personality based on how you're raised. I.E if Sylvia wasn't treated differently from ilya then maybe the story would be different) and nature (personality that are based on biology, like if Soliel was always meant to be a cheater, even from birth), that doesn’t mean their nurture and nature that influences them as a person takes away their free will to do whatever the hell they want. Also since she's been hoping timelines, what personalities she thinks her family and people she cares about have changed slightly, so slightly that we don't really notice it cuz they're still brats to our mc. I.E their nurture has changed slightly, like how current Soleil, sees OG Timeline Soleil and is like wtf is that thing. So we know for sure that they are different people. So while our current Soleils and Sylvias aren't cheating d*ckwads (yet?) the other ones that ilya encountered and were traumatized by definitely did so they are not absolved of their behavior. So we can only hope that current Soleil and Sylvia can be way less of terrible people to Ilya.
     
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  3. Gottago

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    Man, before I read this novel, when people used to say that ignorance was a sin I couldn't quite believe it or I would think otherwise,
    BUT THIS SILVIA BITCH COMPLETELY CONVINCED ME THAT IGNORANCE IS INDEED A SIN AND ONE OF THE MOST ANNOYING ONES TOO!!!:blobangery::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery:

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    Actually now that I have calmed down, I don't think ignorance is too much of a sin, but choosing to be ignorant is. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS SILVIA BITCH DID. HOW THE HELL DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT IT'S CLEARLY NOT OKAY TO BE TANGLING WITH YOUR BROTHER IN LAW? RIDICULOUS AND INCREDIBLY STUPID OF HER!:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::blobexpressionless::blobexpressionless::blobexpressionless::blobexpressionless::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery::blobangery:
     
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  4. lostross

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    once time i saw this webnovel and read the title, i was like a BIG NOPE. the fiance cheating to your own little sister are CRUEL AND IMMORAL, and if the MC not end up killing fiance idk what to do, when she got cheat on and on

    well i tried to read this forum from page 1, hoping that MC will get the happy ending she deserve, but alas until page 11 still no there and my heart cant take it anymore, is it possible to hate somebody so bad that even i dont know the fiance name nor his face, but i wish i can kick some sense into him

    and the little sister is not innocent either, because it take 2 people to get somebody pregnant, if she got some little tiny bit sense and moral inside her brain, she DEFINITELY say the damn fucking NO.

    so both of them just deserve to get slap, punch, and jail for the rest of their miserable life

    and i wish MC get the happy ending she deserve, she doesnt have to be with anyone, she can be by herself and live happily ever after, sometime you can find happiness not with a man beside you, heck i think she got mentally, phisically trauma and dive into another relantionship is not a wise decision

    bless my heart
     
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  5. lostross

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    i agree with you, that little bitch definitly not innocent, she damn know he is her husband's sister and she got a ball to do adultery with him, maybe she never know the meaning of the word moral and conscience

    damn if she is in real a world i am gonna shave her bald and that man i am gonna kick his brain that he put between his legs
     
  6. Irie

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    Y'know, not to side with Sylvia or anything close to that, I can kind of see why she commits adultery- even though I still find the choice disgusting... we're all feeling the frustration since we're seeing everything from Ilya's POV (pure despair on loop), and the POV of others who sympathize with her.

    But from Sylvia's POV, growing up sickly, being confined to the limited spaces of your own home. When you know you're definitely going to die early, it's easy to fall into depravity and have that YOLO mindset, to fool yourself 'I never had the chance to live a normal life growing up, let me experience something a normal person does (aka the romance part) at least once before I die' and be selfish about it. Well too bad for Ilya (and the rest of us) that means watching her sister YOLO SWAG on loop... Besides, it's not like Sylvia knew her parents and the rest of the household were mistreating Ilya; and being spoiled her whole life, I doubt she would suddenly go into some kind of self reflection about how her own actions affect others. What I'm saying is even if Sylvia truly wasn't ignorant, it isn't unrealistic for her to act self-centered wherein all morals be damned when faced with her limited time alive.

    I wonder if this means Slyvia loves herself more than her sister while Ilya is the opposite of her. Having faced her death(s) but still wishing her loved ones' happiness over her own. Though eventually that evolved into her just wanting the suffering to end...

    I guess I just wanted to say although I definitely don't side with them, I'm too tired to hate on Slyvia and Soleil after all these pages of Ilya's suffering. The fact that I've been following this for more than 2 years probably helped lessen my hatred for them as well, so I can understand why Ilya doesn't feel resentment towards either of them- especially when she started out loving both of them and has a negative mindset herself. Oh my poor bittersweet cinnamon roll of a protagonist Ilya, why is it so that you loved selfish people...
     
  7. Rink0

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    I totally agree with you. Sometimes I wanted to read the story from other's perspective, like Soleil's arc, but when he wasn't dreaming. And maybe Sylvia's PoV too to help understanding the story better.

    For me, Ilya was also quite a self-centered person. At first life time she clearly showed jealousy and even confront her at the tea party. She did correct her behavior after that, but in my opinion, she only did that because she was raised to do so. Since when she was still a child their parents had ingrained that Sylvia was the top priority in the house to her. So to me, everything she done to Sylvia was like an obligation rather than love. After several iteration of her lifes, however, that obligation changed, but the way she protected Sylvia seemed like for her to protect herself. If Sylvia lives, Ilya can continue to live too. Turned out this also didn't stop her from going back in time again. So in the end, she already gave up, she just wanted to be free from the loop and her cruel fate, and if that means to make Soleil together with Sylvia, she would do that. That's why when she "died", she said like 'if this is what you called love, then so be it' to Sylvia. This only meant that her protecting Sylvia was actually for herself. She never wished them to be happy together. She just asked Soleil to protect Sylvia no matter what, not making her happy.

    But that doesn't mean I don't like self-centered Ilya. I love her, and she became like that because of her surrounding not showing any love to her. Not even her parents did. The only person who did it was probably Sylvia. That is also the reason why she wanted to protect Sylvia, not out of love, but it was her way to return the love she received from her. Crow is an exception, since he was someone who suffered the same way as Ilya, they both attract each other through the suffering they went through.
     
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    Mmhmm I completely agree with all those points. Tbh it's been a while since I've read the translation and I can't bring myself to reread so I can finish it, but reading your post just made me go 'oyeaa that was how it is :blobthinkingsmirk:'. Excuse my bad memory about Ilya lol I somehow made her out to be super saintly in my mind... Although the story's allure for the mc's characterization is very in depth, the amount of high quality despair -which ironically contributes said characterization, kinda puts me off from reading it >_>
     
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  9. Clars

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    k...i may be completely wrong...as i haven't read it...in a year or so ...but didn't we have a POV of that fiance of Ilya where he said that he was forced to love that sister of hers...or am i completely making it up this in my mind...? (correct me if i'm wrong T.T)
     
  10. lazynoodles

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    In a certain timeline - yes he feels like he is being compelled. But in the original timeline, he really loved MC's younger sister to the point he freaked out, wrongfully accused MC, locked her up to die, and then went off to a brothel to bone a look-alike of the younger sister. After this timeline, he kept repeating his general awfulness and falling in love with the younger sister. Thus, when he tried to tell her he found her attractive - she kept calling bullshit.
     
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    yeah....thanks....for telling me....:blobsmilehappyeyes::blobsmilehappyeyes::blobsmilehappyeyes::blobsmilehappyeyes:
    i really need to re-read it
     
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    Wait so how did it all wrap up. The ending
     
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    I'm wondering the same.
    EDIT: I read the "ending." WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CALLS THIS SHIT A HAPPY ENDING? Short of it is - MC dies, MC lets go of her relationship with those 2 shitty people and wishes them well, Crow lifts her soul? i think away. MC just wishes to be only with Crow ever more.
     
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  14. kawaii12345

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    Really this novel was just torture porn and with some of the depictions I'm really shocked it got a Manga. Every damn life for her was just another opportunity for those 2 pieces of garbage to Hurt her. Hell depending on how you read it, oblivion seems to be her happy ending.
     
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    ...did I just straight up binge read 29 pages of this spoiler thread of one of the most ****ed up angst fest novel that's not even properly complete? My heart is hurting so much... I'm going to go & sink my teeth into some tooth rotting fluff to recover...

    & I agree with everyone that it doesn't feel right that the rest of them don't burn in hell. After all that angst, one needs a cathartic release of all those negative emotions. This is why I get so scared of touching too angsty docs (Why do I never learn!)
     
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    Okay, I binge read the spoilers and skip some of the long-long ranting and you know what? Fuck her parents, the fiancé d*ck should be cut off and her younger sister should be eliminated. If I ever laid eyes on her again in the future chapter I’m going to destroy this b*tch even if I have to transmit in this sh*tty damn pity story. :blobcat_hyper:

    Crow, sir, u found Mc so please cherish her.
    Ilya, Miss, u finally knew about how he tried to help u and you’re determined to help him, I understand you could live your life but I hope u could destroy those two b*tches life into a f*cking bloody mess or I will have to transmit in and destroy them myself because their life doesn’t deserve happiness on ur pool of tears.

    :blobdevil::blobangery:U dare to let them be happy then I will wish u more happiness them them. Just... whatever. Love ur life, I might as well go kill them myself:blobhero:

    I’m just waiting for her happiness now. I’m looking forward to that!
     
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    Can you explain the ending more ? So MC dies ? And the other shit people just live happily no karma no nothing ?
    REALLY!!! :blobtriumph:
     
  18. lazynoodles

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    short answer? yes. I'm never reading angsty shit like this again. I need mind-numbing cute fluff to wash out this taste.
     
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    WHAT?? Is that really the ending?:blobangery::blobhyperthink::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper::blobcat_hyper:I’m not gonna accept that!:blobcurse:
     
  20. Crystle940

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    the author actually hasn’t written the ending... yet.
    the novel is still incomplete at the last arc. as of right now, the MC is neither dead nor alive, since in the latest chapter she, as a spirit, travels back into her body in a previous timeline/universe to see Crow again
     
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