Spoiler My Husband Ascended as the Chosen One / 남편이 용사로 각성했다

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  1. InTheEther

    InTheEther Well-Known Member

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    Any spoilers about the count and countess and their relationship
     
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    Any spoilers about count and countess relationship and George and the count
     
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    So mostly just a guess about the husband's downfall, but I think the issue is that he doesn't realize he's a joke.

    Like, its very clear in just the first few chapters that he's shallow, a bit dim, and incredibly self involved. He sadly is also fairly good looking, very enthusiastic, and has some charisma, which can mask these traits at first. I'm sure in his head he wasn't even lying about the great tragic romance of being separated from his beloved wife and child. Because to him his wife is a construct he's made up entirely in his head rather than a person. He's absolutely head-over-heels in love with the gentle, noble beauty that he thinks his wife should be. Unfortunately he's actually married to a person, and she's got enough backbone that even his powers of self delusion can't convince himself these two figures are the same. Which puts him in a bind when people start asking about his wife and he needs to present a human to the masses. He's better at convincing himself that he's a great dad, but that's because the kid's shy and not going to contradict the fantasy. He treats the kid as a prop and doesn't interact with him enough to see any discrepancies.

    A bit more subtly though, its clear that he's overestimating his own place in noble society as well. He insists the MC take lessons, but its less because he recognizes that noble society will unfairly judge a person for adhering to the sometimes overly convoluted and very strict social guidelines, and more because he thinks that will make her better match his fantasy ideal wife. Obviously he didn't need those same lessons, because he's just that awesome. He playacts being noble, but its clearly a monkey-see-monkey-do scenario without any real understanding of etiquette. If he had understood anything he wouldn't have made the massive foux pas of intruding on a ladies' tea (even as his wife's escort, the correct procedure would be to make himself as unobtrusive as possible before making a quick exit). Even with the clothes, yes the family needs a wardrobe update but he fails to recognize the difference between quality and tackiness. Showing up to events overdressed draws just as much derision and being underdressed. Chapter 18 of the manga even points out that there's more to getting into noble society than having money and looking expensive.

    So in the Husband's head he's just finally around people who recognize his specialness. In reality, at best they're amused by the dancing monkey. We see so much side eye in various panels where he thinks he's nailing it while whatever noble he's playing to is clearly condescending. He's never disabused of his delusions because they're for the most part laughing or sneering behind their fans rather than calling out his errors directly. And when it comes to lesser errors its not that big a deal, because a certain amount of vulgarity is expected in a social climber. But its only a matter of time until he does something deeply insulting, and he'll be just shocked on learning that he never held any actual value to them.
     
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    So Theodore really fell for a married woman with a child so soon?
     
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    That's a good saying, and true now that I think of it
     
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    Gotta appreciate the fact that our mother bear/strong temperamental no nonsense self-reflective-aware FL Shirley is able to hit her trash husband and the pubescent ML;)
    In many Fantasy Romance Mangas/Manwhas the FL is never allowed to harm the half-god ML or any big man physically, even if she has power. The ML on the other hand can always grab her wrist very hard or she gets (almost) hit by an antagonist.
    So it is very refreshing to see how Shirley the fearless commoner from land/the boonies is able to defend herself + kick the asses of her trash (ex-)husband and the manchild ML.
    She does not get so easily intimidated or impressed by anyone! Shania Twain - That Don't Impress Me Much
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    Sounds like the FL has no intention to get married but it's also an open ending as to whether she starts to date the ml or not because it iink she likes him based on the comments
     
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    did the husband ever cheated?
     
  10. DOHere

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    it wouldn't make him less of a scumbag if he didn't
    It may have been hard for him to cheat, because he's been going for the devoted husband+father=family guy image
     
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    I've been re-reading the current Fan-Translated Chapters.

    What do you think about Shirley's ML Theodore Carlton/Teddy?
    I get the impression that he is flirtatious and eccentric but also kinda pushy, shameless and childish.

    There is also the well-meant neighbour aunt/grandma Linda who talked out Shirley's abused Mother to leave her shit violent drunk Husband and pretty much condemned her into a catatonic miserable state due to her conservative beliefs in chapter 27...
    I really get the urge to slap such a person and humiliate her.:blobdevil:

    https://comiko.net/series/107897
    https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/my_husband_ascended_as_the_chosen_one/
     
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    I love this manhwa. Shirley is freaking cool. Finally, an FL who doesn't easily blush around the ML. Rather, it's the opposite. So refreshing and cute. Even the ML's mom is super cool.

    Apart her dumbass ex,I hate the Linda. She reminds me those actual old ladies who won't shut and mind their own business. She's like "a woman can't be happy without a man", but where's her man? She see seems to live fine alone with her own house. So annoying and hypocritical. Just cut her off already. She doesn't even do anything apart from raising blood pressure. Piss off Linda.

    I much rather prefer the ML's mom. I need more of ML's mom.
     
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    About that, we don't know. I think she is living alone and feel miserable and want just to help MC to not end up like her. But yeah, she is annoying.
     
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    Nah, the FL made it clear that she wanted to dissuade her (as she did to her mom) because she wanted them avoid the area where women without a man live, where they are unemployed and stigmatized. Secondly, the old lady is alone but she's living in a really nice house. She isn't isolated since even FL's trash ex has talked to her (so dissuade her from testifying in court for FL), and she doesn't live in the area where the women are.


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    I think the ML here is better than any other type of carefree and playful ML I've ever read. Usually, I don't like such types, but I feel like he's a better-written character with this type of personality.

    First impressions of their meeting may be a hit or miss for some about Teddy. He was being flirty with the motive of getting back at the trash husband (at least that what he says), and he was sort of rude (I say sort of because when FL drank strong tea and asked why he didn't warn her, he asked if he was in an obligation to do so. I didn't like that at all). He was also basically asking her to have an affair with him. Some people may not like him asking FL to have an affair with him in the beginning chapters, but, seeing as trash husband refused to divorce by lying to FL, I'm cool with it, especially since ML was more than ready to commit (plus his mom pushing for them to be together). Well, that's pretty much how the plot goes, since she and the ML are playing as lovers so that she can get a divorce.

    But I feel like the reason I didn't hate it is because FL's absolutely blunt personality outshined ML's personality. Like she managed to handle him. Probably because FL, likely because she's already a single mom and has lived a hard life, is more mature and honest. ML may be childish but isn't as childish as FL's trash husband and he's more manageable since he listens and is easily teased by both FL and even his own mom.

    In the first meeting, his love for her bluntness begins to bloom immediately. And I don't think it's because "oH, sHe'S sOO InTEreSTinG". I think it's because his mom, another blunt woman (and a cool lady), also teases him and essentially raised him and her other son on her own since, despite having a husband, her husband was very neglectful. Just like how she and FL are able to connect as women and mothers, regardless of status, ML may also appreciate and respect FL more since he's closer to his mom. He certainly isn't a chauvinist like trash husband, and very open-minded, even wanting to adjust to FL's world as a commoner so that they can have a genuine and lasting relationship.

    And while he may be eccentric, I don't think he's pushy. Well, certainly not as the trash husband. He's never been handsy (since there are MLs who love to grab the FLs' wrist and pull them to them, with flowers all around the scene to make it more rOmANtIC). He does seem to test the boundary, but not to the extreme. Like, in Chapter 8, after the whole fiasco with trash happened, ML called the FL by her name so casually and left. And we don't think much, and the FL herself doesn't dwell much on it either, since the main focus of the chapter is trash being, well, trash. At least, that's my personal opinion. Apart from that, ML has always been respectful and open-minded towards the FL. Like, he says he'll marry her but he doesn't make some kind of scheme to trap her into marriage like some other manhwas. He instead helps her to be free, like the way he taught her to write when she was feeling down about class hierarchy since her mom could write and so was able to make money, and so by teaching this to the FL, she would be able to stand on her own feet through being educated (compare this vs. the stifling etiquette classes she had in the beginning. It's symbolic~~) If anything, it's more like he keeps telling her that he'll marry her to reassure that it isn't a passing phase or lust, that her status as a commoner, a single mom with a kid and soon-to-be-divorcee doesn't matter; they're his genuine feelings that he's going to commit to. Of course, FL firmly deflects, since she can't trust him, being a single mom with a kid, but he's being sincere with both her and her son. And I can't blame her since some of the people around her, particularly trash and that old hag, think she's being played (since it's also true that most love affairs don't last).

    But what I love about this guy is how he's so sweet around FL's son. Usually, when you have kid characters, the FL is essentially chained to the guy who's the biological father, regardless if he's abusive in any shape or form, where the kid forces the FL to stay with the biological father (looking at you chinese manhuas). But, regardless of whether the ML is the biological father or not, they never spend time with the kid, especially if the kid has never met them since their birth. But here, with ML not being the trash husband, ML immediately hits it off with FL's son in CH. 7. And he keeps building that rapport with the son alongside having moments with the FL. And the way he protects the son from the trash's abuse/shouting/denouncing his son's mom, shows a more mature side of the ML, since he tosses his childish side and mans up to protect a boy who isn't even his own son. It isn't a one time thing either. He's shown that he can be a good father as much as he can be a good husband. The moments he has with both the FL and her son made me forget their first meeting (since it's not even that bad compared to other first meetings, looking at you My tyrant husband became cautious).

    But I think the real problem that we should be discussing is this:
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    LIKE HOW!?!?!?!?!
    Was it because the ML's dad used to be black haired when he was young, and ML got tanned (since that's how mahwas label dark skin as) from being out too much!? Right?

    EDIT: I find the ML from I'm sure it's my baby to be more pushy and shameless than this ML. The way he proposed by putting the ring on FL's finger despite her consistently saying no was such a turn off. He doesn't even spend much time with the kid he thinks is his own son (and he's so pathetic and hypocritical that he says that he'll only acknowledge the kid if it's the FL's (she's the aunt) but wouldn't even if it's his own, when he was accusing her earlier that she's ashamed of having her kid call her mom (because she's the biological aunt) Deadbeat and stupid, right there). This ML here isn't like that, and thank goodness. The ML from that manhwa pisses off so much.
     
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