Spoiler My Second Husband is Desperate and Depressed

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  1. Laerta

    Laerta Well-Known Member

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    Джеймс больше одержим героиней. Я бы не назвал это любовью. Впервые он увидел ее в школе и захотел сделать свою. Но мальчик, скажи ей хотя бы раз, что она тебе нравится.

    И их брачная ночь, и сама свадьба. Как бы вы ни спешили на войну, вы могли бы провести один день, стоя рядом с ней в церкви и заключая брак. Один день! Один день ничего не решит в такой затяжной войне.

    Отношение Джеймса к Оливии странное. Как будто он купил красивую лошадь с блестящей шерстью и привел ее в свою конюшню.

    Да, у вас теперь есть красивая лошадь с блестящей шерстью, мощная, длинноногая. Но для того, чтобы она оставалась такой же красивой и с такой же блестящей шерстью, за ней надо ухаживать, хотя бы кормить, give her какие давать добавки, чтобы ее шерсть продолжала блестеть. Если вы не можете сделать это сами, поручите this to servant. By this I mean the butler. Но Джеймс даже этого не сделал.

    Да, вы не знаете, что делать с этой лошадью, но вы должны хотя бы покормить ее. Вы знаете, без еды животные умирают. А просто потом его любимый конь умер, и он возвратил время вспять.

    Да, это очень грубое сравнение. Я так вижу relationship between Джеймса and Оливии.

    Ладно, ты не умеешь выражать эмоции. Но... Вы видели, что ваша жена чуть не умерла при родах. Но ты заставил ее родить во второй раз. Вы хотите, чтобы она точно умерла? Даже если предположить, что у нее была двойня, даже самым скудным мозгом можно понять, что очередных родов ваша жена не переживет, так зачем вам с ней секс?

    Why ты вообще повернул время вспять? Что ты хочешь?

    Если ты знаешь, что у тебя осталось мало времени, лучше бы его провел с женой, хотя бы подошёл к ней, предположим поговорить, обнять, побыть рядом. Why нет?

    О письме, которое Оливия написала Джеймсу. Да в ней и не понять, как она страдала в доме трех свекровей. Только одно но... В жизни первой Оливия была убита шпионом. Вторая жизнь — Оливия убила одна из свекровей. При этом старший на тот момент умер. Значит, это сделала либо биологическая мать Джеймса, либо та плакса. Джеймс видит, что события в каждой временной шкале разные, но он даже не think, что в этой жизни свекровь Оливии могла отравиться раньше времени.

    С письмом этим можно think, что Оливия на самом деле не так сильно страдала. И она только сгустила тучи по поводу своего состояния. Можно предположить, что Джеймс написал ей, чтобы она ничего не делала, чтобы свекровь не начала травить и ее раньше времени. Но...

    Джеймс не знает и не хочет know, почему его свекровь решила отравить невестку. Он знает о самом факте poisoning, но тоже ничего не делает.

    Как красивый меч, который висит на стене и им восхищаются, но не используются.

    Как будто он вернулся в прошлое, чтобы поймать вора и повесить меч обратно на стену. Он до сих пор им not use it, хотя меч хорош для сражений.

    Я не вижу, чтобы Джеймс относился к Оливии как к человеку. Человек, которому necessary его внимание любви.

    И даже молодым, что ему осталось 5 лет жизни, он родил бы ребенка with Оливии и ее оставили опять одну наедине с свекровями, в конце концов снова will отравили Оливио и забрали детей. Он все это знает, он был живым свидетелем.

    Джеймс, как человек, который постоянно steps на грабли. Он знает, что это больно, он знает, что если наступит, то удастся добиться удара, но все равно упорно продолжают на них начинать.

    Оливия может быть счастлива. Оливия может уйти от мужа, который оставил ей ночные кошмары и дикий страх перед близостью и рождением детей. Я не думаю, что Оливия должна бороться за Джеймса. У них не было такой глубокой любви, за которую стоило бы бороться.

    Джеймс, зачем ты вернул ее к жизни? Чтобы сделать ее счастливой? Но вы ничего не сделали для этого. Чтобы сделать себя счастливым? Но опять же, вы ничего не сделали для этого. Она была в основном и вполне счастлива в загробной жизни, не возвращаясь в этот ад. ты вернул его? Why?
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    Еще один интересный момент. Джеймс знает, что ему осталось жить 5 лет. Если бы он не получил письмо о разводе, то не вернулся бы домой еще год или два. Всего ему осталось жить с женой два-три года. Так в чем смысл?

    Вот вам пример из жизни. Я был в детском лагере и там был один мальчик, которому я очень нравился. Он распространял плохие сплетни обо мне только потому, что я не общалась с ним. Но я даже не знала, что я ему нравлюсь. В то время у меня там не было ни друзей, ни парня. Я бы с удовольствием начала встречаться с ним, если бы он просто сказал, что я ему нравлюсь. Но нет, проще было discredit мое имя по всему лагерю, чем просто подойти и сказать: ты мне нравишься. Just walk up and say I like you.

    И далее. Сама героиня добровольно не вышла замуж за Джеймса ни в первую, ни во вторую жизнь, ни в другую жизнь сама предпочла уйти от Джеймса. И это был правильный выбор.
    Мусор в человеческих отношениях не стоит того, чтобы за него бороться.
     
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  2. Lalali

    Lalali Well-Known Member

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    James kept regressing but kept making mistake while it took Ian just 1 lifetime to make MC feel love and happy. I feel sorry more for MC for experiencing deth several times befoew getting her happy ending
     
  3. Shion Lee

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    Thank you!!!
    This whole thread was full of long ranting opinions that wasnt boxed into spoiler tabs so i was annoyed. Thank god i found your spoiler before i got bored to death
     
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    Is there a full English translation??
     
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    Violet_lily Well-Known Member

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    Mama Mia English please
     
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    Thankyou so much for the spoiler :aww:

    Rant
    I know what James did is bad but i still feel sorry for him only cuz he's going to die very soon. If he lived a little longer & was educated or had a long conversation of all wrong doings it would have been nice to watch him learn & mentally grow tf up. I think his charector was pathetic & he probably didn't even know whatever he was doing was so wrong & painful, he presumably had the "my wife is my possession ideology" & didn't know what his mother's did.
    I really hope the FL spoke about all the pain he & his family caused. I feel like he needs to understand that ML & FL aren't in the wrong (at all).
    I'm glad FL didn't end up with James, (cuz then, this would have been like the abandoned empress) it was a nice touch, that he turned back time. I guess this was his way of atonement, he gave her a second chance at happiness which he took away in previous timelines.

    How did the mother in law's get punished? Did James know about their bullying in detail? I hope he did & took care of it. :blobhero:
     
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    My opinion on a fool's sacrifice, it's no use for a husband to say he loves and treat the person as a good, he didn't die trying to save his mate by going back in time, but wanting his own happiness, and never thinking about hers. Then she found a much better person who prioritized her
     
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    Thanks to going back in time to save her, he loses his life expectancy. Is it only for his happiness if he knows he'll die young anyway?
     
  9. Laerta

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    Still. I don't feel pity for that black hair boy. I understand that he has emotional spectrum of a stool. But if you torn time back - change something. But he didn't. Nothing. It crazy and stupid.
     
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    Does a guy automtically have the right to a girl if he saves her? That's some nice guy/incel logic. Even when he was doing it for "her sake" he never took her, as a person into account. He fell in love with his idea of her (cause he canonically knows literally nothing about her after 3 lifetimes) and sacrificed his life for that idea. If he loved her or even thought of her as a living breathing human being he wouldn't have r**ed her.
     
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    Its weird how ya'll are feeling sympathy for a neglectful husband who is also an unfeeling rapist!!!!

    who didn't take care of her while she went through traumatic birth, who ignored her pleas while she was abused by his 3 mothers, who raped her and didn't care for her body OR her mental health at all.

    So what if he turned back time? he never changed or tried to be there for her. Even if he did change, he doesn't deserve her at all.

    I'm side eyeing ya'll pretty hard...
     
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    Tbh, turning back time is the bare minimum for damage he caused and things she suffered.

    It is just weird that people think FL should be grateful for husbands sacrifices when he is the one who made situation like that.

    One sided crush doesn't make marriages work. No matter how good looking they are, the fact that they r*pe someone takes away all the charm.
     
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    I don't think a single person in this thread said MC should gave ended up with her first husband.
    My point was just that I feel sorry for him.
    He did his best in the way he knew. He didn't consider it rape and tbf she also never said no. She just remembered that it hurt and she didn't like it.
    Guy doesn't have high EQ, but he had good intentions.
     
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    3 lifetimes and he had his memories? Well, he is just stupid or incorrigible. If anyone had that opportunity I am pretty sure they would try to change something. As example he could maybe even take her with him to the battlefield (not ideal situation of course, but he would be able to at least spend some time with her and learn more about her since he not gonna come back for years)

    It's maybe not considered rape as you said since he didn't try doing it against her will intentionally, he thought she agrees and wants it too, but he never asked anything. He never tried talking to her. He honestly reminds me of "Marriage contract" and "How ti get my husband on my side" (coincidentally both MLs in these works have white hair) - those two never had bad intentions towards FLs, but neither they have ever asked them anything nor were they considering asking them until they actually tried to have a proactive role in a relationship and they "redeemed" themselves. One even killed FL's whole family, besides neglecting her completely, if I remember correctly they never even slept together (Izak/Isak/Isuke in how to get...).
    I am actually glad FL of this work didn't feel sorry nor burdened by the ML of previous life nor did she feel like she has to stay with him and make it work.
    Ok, in marriage contract it's a bit different since she was a child bride so his behavior was actually much better (in my opinion) then if he tried to do anything to her before she demanded it in romantic way, though he could have paid more attention to her, but than there is the part of his upbringing bla, bla, bla.
    All in all I do feel kinda sorry for James, but after 3 chances I am pretty sure you could have tried and changed something, like you kind of knew what's gonna happen you know.
    He had a lot of options what he could have done, how he could have acted, he could have consulted someone and asked for opinion, no one would kill him nor hate him for asking when he doesn't know.
    Oh, there is an interesting fact about middle century since all these stories are in that time, but Christians viewed sex as something that's just for reproduction in a way and you shouldn't enjoy it, that's the time when the nuns etc were forbidden having sex at all, you could be one just if you are virgin, no matter if you are female or male.
    So if we say he was Christian he could have an excuse of sex being something you shouldn't enjoy based on your religion and beliefs you know?
    This is just something I found out recently actually and I was reminded by this work and Contract marriage.
    It was normal not to enjoy sex and it was considered bad to actually enjoy it, like how dare you.
    There is of course also the tradition of first night after marriage, first time having sex, that people would be present in the room and watching to confirm it. You can even see this in some TV series too. The one with french king I think actually had this scene, Crown or something, maybe and probably I got the name wrong of the series, but if anyone know please tell me. It's a series about court, kings and queens etc etc. Historical royal TV series. I think king Henry, but possibly wrong.
    I am sorry for all this unimportant information, I just remembered some things that are historical facts, but they are never mentioned in this works even though they are based on European royal courts a lot. They could even explain some things in these kinds of works and give excuses to characters.
     
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  15. Shipter

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    Guys does anyone know what happened to the business Olivia was planning to?just curious.
    And omg I heard that James gets redeemed but how I imagine. He is such a piece of shit and ain't no way he gets redeemed. He better not cause any chaos on Olivia and Ian

    Omg
    Omg thanks for the spoilers kind person
     
  16. Laerta

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    Not true. He didn't do anything. He just turned back time. It doesn't make him good. He doesn't change anything. There is no sense in this step of going back.
     
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    I'm sure he IS changing things in each regression. Time was regressed many times, MC didn't only die because of her step mothers, but was killed by outside forces as well(burglars/war from what I remember from spoilers, correct me if I'm wrong). So I'm sure he's removed all those obstacles from previous lifes. As someone mentioned, him telling her to bear with the step mothers should also be so they won't kill her.
     
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    Reminds me of the critical commentary the meta webcomic THIS ISEKAI IS FORMING AN UNION! made about the ML with plot armor who never really changes no matter how many times he regressed/reincarnated in different timelines. The ML can't really envolve or become a better version of himself on his own without his fated FL sacrificing herself, enduring any abuse and suffering for him!
    He just hates himself too much.


    https://www.webtoons.com/en/challen...isode-35/viewer?title_no=699696&episode_no=50
     
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    I am so happy to see a novel with a FL that decides to f*** off the husband with a 100% resolve of irreconcilable differences. I feel wow I can’t describe the emotions running through me right now! Like fuc**** finally!!! (P.S any recommendations like this one?)

    James wants the MC as an obsession/possession. Why? Because he doesn’t change at all. He has regressed not once, not twice, but 3 damn times! And in neither of these times does he change his behavior. Until what happens? MC also has her previous life memories and decides to give up on a lost cause since she basically complained about her situation to him and he only responded with a F*** you keep the peace. Knowing good damn and well that one of his mothers killed her!!!! Like WTF who does that.

    James deserves to be alone for treating the MC like a prize he could come and go to whenever it tickled his fancy to pay it some attention. Bro legit looked at the MC after a terrible birth for his child no less for less than a second. Not a word was spoken. That’s not love, that’s straight up my toy is broken, let’s ignore it for now.

    Plus he gave her 3 mother in laws!!! That should be bloody illegal!!!
     
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    I thought this was supposed to be a spoiler thread.