Wait. I just read the latest translation. And it confuse me more. So, apparently, Song and Xing (wife) are the male and female leads of the OriNovel. Their children story is told in the extra part. BUT, why ... what's with the 'My Son might be a Villain' title here? So, SH is villain in the extra only? That's a bit confusing. Welp, looks like my spoiler there is wrong. But, Su Ran did say the Songs twins age wasnot matching with what she read in the OriNovel. Either, this TransmNovel might be a continuation after it ended or it's a different timeline. (Kudos to MC to remember the important extra parts XD eventhough SH scenes might only a few lol ) Welp, my spoiler
Yup, in the epilogue, SH fell in love (or perhaps the more correct term was obsessed) with the female twin because how pure and kind hearted she was. He tried to get her using villainous meaning such as kidnapping and threatening her, but in the end, SH got defeated by the male twin because he inherited his parents' protagonist aura. Rather than matching or not, iirc, the age of the twins was not specified in the novel. MC always assumed the twins were few years younger than SH, because at the point of SH's conception (the hotel incident), MP and FP hadn't got married. And based on how FP's character was supposed to be, pure white lotus, she assumed that FP wouldn't be willing to give up her virginity before wedding. MP and FP only got married a few months after the hotel incident, and calculating the pregnancy time, the twins supposed to be around 1,5 years younger than SH. Yet the twins were at the same age as SH, which made MC realised that FP was also sleeping with MP at the hotel incident, and that FP was not as pure as the original novel portrayed her to be (FP supposed to have get away from being drugged by orig host. The fact that FP slept with MP, proved that FP took the aphrodisiac on her own). Actually I'm a bit curious about the twins' fate, now that their father gone bankrupt... The author never specified what happened to them or their parents. Based on the few interaction between MC and them, the twins was actually not a bad children, they just have bad parents.
@Eis Too bad the author didnt invest more on the rest of the 'older generation' fate. I think that Song was a bit clear of what damaged her wife did, and agreed with the decision to liquidated his company to Lu if not LS might just off him and his family. Abt OriSH, from what I read in his chapter, I think he's more obsessed with killing all the families that did him wrong or maybe not him but his mother. And he failed in destroying the Song family but got rescued by LS. I assume, This might the ending of the OriNovel that wasnt written by the author XD
yes, SH is villain is the extras after witnessing his mother humiliation and death when he was 12 he would blacken and become a villain Spoiler: what happened in that party in that party that surnamed Gu person force SR to stripes and play piano motherborn bare and then people tried to touch her but then SR picked a knife and attacked people around her the tried to commit suicide, although their relationship never was good, SH tried to save her but SR in her last moments shows worry and motherly love to him and told him to don't come here The song sister reminds SH of SR so you can't tell he loves her. and SH didn't die in original novel he tried to commit suicide but LS saved him in his last moment and brought him to live together
Anyone knows why SH was invited to the party in the fisrt chapter? Random selection by the predator host to 'sell' the kids to people there or he really picked SH to be there? Or it's just plot XD?
I don't remember it being mentioned in the novel clearly . I guess those people just took some good looking needy kids to these parties as "invites" . Su han at that time was a street kid so he may have got some information about that party like how can they earn money or something . In dark side of society many things happen that we may not know. Well most translators start translating but they leave it in the middle and pick up next project ,it's really annoying
Mmmm... I don't know if you were referring to the translator of this novel but she said that her translation on this one will resume on April 6th but I do agree that some translator leave their translations half the way which is annoying if they left where the climax begins. And for Su Han's involvement in that party, I believe someone really planned it so that he can see his mother humiliations, plus this is where his blackening started on the original story. His monologue when he forced the last person that was involved his mother's death to suicide is really heartbreaking for me. You can see that despite the original!Su Ran's lack of motherly love, he really loves her... That is why in the first place he fell in love to the Original Male lead's daughter because Su Ran and her both plays the piano.
Maybe Su Han liking oriml daughter is just a plot to make him villian. Author of this novel has left many things without clarifying. Like what kind of actual "work" ori Su Ran did ,it wasn't explained or maybe from mtl i couldn't understand. It's been since long i have mtl this one so many things have been forgotten. As for oriSu Ran i never felt anything good for her except some pity for what happened to her and only good deed she did was at her last moment .. I don't like ori Su Ran for what she did to Su Han (my views). I don't think Su Han was specifically made to attend that party as there were many kids of his age . Could be considered a plot to blacken Su Han ..
I think it is implied that the original!Su Ran's work is an entertainer/hostess/someone who works in a red light district. I find it quite funny we were discussing about his blackening on the original novel but actually you were right, all were really just for the plot because this was from the novel that the transmigrated Su Ran read before.
But it isn't said directly she is an escort or bluntly prostitute (or mtl isn't good) But heads off to ML for still looking over past of ori Su Ran even though MC never told Ml that she is a transmigrator. Well i actually felt it wasn't logical that Ori Su Ran hates being raped by Ml (who was drugged) but plans for ori Fp same and then treats Su Han as trash because of rape but she herself is a worker in red district. If she has psychological shadow because of rape so how could she is okay with others . That's why i never felt pity for ori Su Ran. She just takes out her frustrations on Su Han. (It's just my thoughts on Ori Su Ran)
@amarya_21 OriMC is just a 16year old kid when she was banished and left alone to deal with her baby. Her whole life crumbles at that point. I cannot hate her. She doesnt know any better. Her parents enables her, and doesnt teach her the wrongs (and then died in accident) and her family even throws her away when they find out she's preganant. She still needs guidance but no one is there for her and helping her. She's a kid who has a kid. A kid that cannot grow up and see another way of life beside her because her life stops functioning at the age of 16, when her family banish her with her being pregnant, no shelter (ffs she gave birth in a phonebooth/public toilet iirc), no guarantee/guardian. And dont forget, she's a shelter young lady from a wealthy family, that only knows how to chasse young man and be pretty. And I dont remember, but there's nobody willing to help her, she has no one at all by her side. She only thinks her child as burden because that's how she is banished and left with nothing. If she cannot think for her child and stick to her old routine (the young lady of wealthy family life) to have a good life without any skill, no degree, no survival instinct but one: selling her body. I dont blame her, I cannot blame her. Both mother and son are pitiful canon fodders. With how people are hating and discussing these two Original characters, I suppose this novel or more precise these two canon fodders are much more interesting to read/analyse. They managed to make us to see them not as canon fodder only, to hate and like them more, to talk abt them much more than the main characters. Kudos to author. And us for being torn with heartache for these mother and son. Maybe why the author wrote AU ending for both, their story are just too.......heart breaking. When I think abt it, IF the author didnt make a transmigration but a rebirth with Ori SuRan reads/sees how her son takes revenge and dies? Would Ori SuRan change her way especially to her son?
@Kaylee I did said i pity Ori Su ran for what happened to her but i didn't like the way she treated Su han . Even though she hated him as a product of rape but she didn't have any humanity in her towards Su han despite him being her flesh and blood . Even when author gave her second chance she didn't felt any remorse for Ori Su Han. Before meeting her new husband she still had feelings for ori ml despite him doing so bad to her (maybe i don't get this head over heels over a guy attitude of "villainous characters" so i can't understand this). I just felt she is a selfish person. I didn't hope her to become all motherly towards Su Han but still some human feelings. She got her all new life but only ori su han remained all alone with his miserable life before meeting his Dad. As i said this is my opinion on her character, many would disagree with me . It's just i don't like her . She wanted to have ori fp raped but she hate it when same thing happened to her. When it comes to survival , Su Ran(mc) too doesn't have any except her music but she didn't treated Su Han like original despite knowing he would turn into a villian. That's the difference between ori and Su Ran .. And you said if original had a rebirth than i don't think she would change rather would throw Su Han somewhere.
I agree with @Kaylee, ori!Su Ran is pitiful because her parents were killed in an on-site inspection afterwards her uncles kicked her out. Added with the fact, that the supposed to be male lead and 2nd male lead of the novel makes her life difficult to the point wherein even if she wants to start anew, they will not let her for the sake of the female lead. She only loved and wanted to be loved in return but she did not get it, worse the price she had to pay for that love is much greater than what was she supposed to pay for scheming that she had done. As for original!Su Ran's relationship with Su Han, Ori!Su Ran's fault is that even after having a child... Her attention is only with the original male lead, she is like a stalker that cannot get over her obsession that is why she cannot see that Su Han's care and love for her, even if she was not loved by others, there's her son which can give her affections that she wanted. But then, I'm quite satisfied with her rebirth, although there is no Su Han on that timeline, she managed to prioritize what really matters than pursuing the male lead. Thus leading a good life. But then, all of this is how you view it with your perspective so there is no right or wrong. With that being said, I should give spoiler since it was the purpose of this thread. Spoiler: Scumbag On the first formal meeting between Su Han and Lu Shao where LS offers to support SH, SH hated him because he assumed that LS was the scumbag that hurt his mother. So he directly called LS a scumbag, which make LS angry at SH. Making their animosity/rivalry with one another On their 2nd meeting with Su Ran as the mediator(cause SR did not know that LS introduced himself to SH), Su Han assumed that his mother has fallen in love and wanted him to meet the man she fell in love with, cause SR is kind of vague in explaining that SH is gonna meet with his dad. SH is kind of skeptical with his mother's eye on choosing a man to love so he agreed. Imagine his shock when the door of the private room is opened and Lu Shao is there he shouted "It is you?!". Lu Shao answered "If it is not me, who else" (Because SR texted LS that their son wanted to meet him, so LS frowned thinking "meet again? Not seen enough") Su Han be like it cannot be you! I do not approve of this! At one music competition after the first round Lu Shao invited the mother and son for dinner, so he was waiting at the door of Su Ran's hotel room. Ori!Ml happened to pass by, he was confused why LS was there (cause LS is a prominent businessman so it does not makes sense why he is loitering on that floor of the hotel) so Ori!ML greeted him and asked why he was meddling with Ori!ML business, LS is kind of irritated with Ori!ML. LS wanted Ori!ML to leave fast, he does not want Su Ran to meet Ori!ML.When SR opens the door they had some kind of confrontation between the three of them, with Lu Shao saying that Su Ran does not know Ori!ML; They, the family of three is going and lastly Lu Shao warned Ori!Ml nevert to call Su Ran by her name. Su Han kept looking on the direction of the original male lead, so Su Ran get his attention saying that he should not stare because it was rude. At car, Su Ran fell asleep so Su Han asked Lu Shao, who was that person earlier. Lu Shao replied it was the scumbag you said before. SH was shocked and confirmed his suspicion that his mother's eye have some problem, in which LS agreed too lol. SH asked LS if he was jealous, in which he replied what qualification Ori!ML can make LS jealous. LS added "So if you don't want to be a stepson of a scumbag, you should try to accept me" Lol, mother and son's interaction are full fluff while father and son's interaction are full of banter, sarcasm and jabbing each other's sore spots
Some women in her position would've abort the child, or threw the child in the dump after giving birth to him, I'd say she's humane enough for raising him, despite not showing any familial love. With her not getting any emotional support, being disowned at the age of 16, thrown to the streets, not having any skills to make a living besides having her body.. she's amazing enough to raise her son, it's easy for you to hate her because you didn't try to view things from her perspective.
She couldn't abort as she knew late. She did threw the child in dump . She never raised Su Han ,it was neighbor pity that su han was able to reach teenage . She didn't left him food ,only leftovers that too she was too lazy to threw it out . As i said before these are all my views .i am not telling anyone to accept mine . Yes Su han was an unwanted child but he was the most innocent one too . He didn't asked her mother to set up a plan to have orifp rape , he wasn't the one who failed ori su ran plan . Ori su ran only mistake was she wasn't as smart as ori fp . Ori su ran did plan a gang rape for ori fp . Her only last thing before dying to save Su han rather made him a villian that led to that idiotic obsession with ori fp daughter and then his end ... No child ask a parent to give birth to them , so as an adult who can't take responsiblity for their actions , dont blame the child .. I didn't ask for your views and i didn't went to change ur ones. Maybe you only see things from ori Su ran prespective .. I would like those who come to me be at Su Han place and then say how it feels when your only relative treats you like a trash and hopes you die or disappear from her sight.. I am done with this debate, plz any reader don't come here to me with your views .
Well, she herself was a child. A spoiled one at that. So, facing injustice and harshness of the world was new to her. She, had to blame someone, since she can't blame herself as she isn't that mature and smart, she misplaced the blame towards Su Han. Her, trying to save him is maybe her last attempt at being a mother. Though, it doesn't excuse her behavior prior but showed reality out there.
Sorry i wasn't attacking you or anything, just wanted to share my views as well. The way i see it, there are 3 choices for women like her : 1st choice is to be an independent loving mother which is pretty much impossible and illogical considering her background. These sort of mothers usually grew up in an environment where she is used to take care of everything herself. I've read a manga about this type of mom before, she was blind and got raped on her way back from work, got pregnant from it. Her parents ordered her to abort it but she refused and got disowned. She raised her child herself, the boy grew up to be rebellious, becoming a delinquent, hanging out with biker gangs, the main character is a teacher who help these problematic children, he run a night school..the boy wanted to change after that and left the gang because he loved his mom very much and knew how much hardship she faced just because she decided to keep him. One day he was trying to help his friend who was new to the biker gang, i forgot the details but he got into an accident and died, the mc went to see the mother, and the mother asked him " what does he(her son) looked like?". Never cried so hard while reading a manga. 2nd option would be an abusive mom that would beat up her child any chance she can get, mainly due to the fact that the child reminds her of the rape and the guy who raped her, especially if the child looks a lot like the rapist, there's a lot of these type of mothers in real life and the child would often grow up in foster homes which is very unpleasant for some. Even mothers who received support could still turn into these abusive moms. 3rd option would be like the original su ran. Not to mention the ML and the 2nd ML keeps blocking her path so that the only way for her to survive is through prostitution ( I'm not sure about this part, i i haven't fully read it and only read this part from the spoilers) Don't get me wrong, it's not like i don't sympathize with su han, it's just that I don't blame his mom for what happened to them. For me, the one who should've been blamed are the ML and the 2nd ML. But I'm glad the author made a HE for both the original su ran and su han. Su ran being able to return to the past and changed her life completely ( the ori ML got his retribution here), and su han being able to transmigrate into the alternate timeline and saw his family's HE which helped him to let go of the past and accept lu shao as his dad.
I get your point . I was just tired of some readers commenting the same thing and then replying me .. I hope readers comment their views independently not to me... Everyone has their right to freedom of speech . If ori Su Ran was an innocent person who hasn't done anything bad maybe i would have pity for her .. i don't hate her nor do i pity her . Maybe the society i grew up in is "very bias" so i would have more tilt towards children more rather than adults .. My outburst wasn't for you . It's just i am very tired with same thing so i hope no new readers come here to me .. i quote again "very very very tired" Maybe i have seen many cases of adults mistakes and lack of responsibility leading to their children with severe mental issues so i am always biased towards children.. Usually i avoid batting views like this , i was very sleep deprived so i got angry . I apologize to you .
Spoilers about the girl who stole MC’s piano demos early in the story? How did they find out it was hers?