No protagonist is unrealistic, it's me who is narrowminded

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  1. A novel a day

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    I don't know if this link can be opened but if it does open, I want to say that if this is true why is my transmigrated protagonist knowing soap and cement formulas unrealistic???? It was me who was narrow minded in the past to think transmigrated protagonists are unrealistic because of the variety of skills they got, I stand corrected. This guy is ready to be transmigrated to ancient/pre-historic/apocalyptic/interstellar times and still make a living.
     
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    One of my friends knows far too many useless info that I think she's preparing on transmigrating without me. Sometimes it's fun letting her rant about the problems that I never heard of.
     
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    Right, some people do prepare I guess....that info will come in handy when she does transmigrate though....
     
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    To be fair, the protags aren't unrealistic, it's just improbable which doesn't mean impossible.
     
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    Not really that contrasting careers...

    Any science field specialists can become astronauts...not just astro-physicists and like.


    I'd say he's bagged military and medicine, not so much on the physics and space stuffs, so if he comes across a teleportation device and such the most the guy can do is make sure there aren't any harmful pathogen.


    I've seen people jump from undergrad medicine to mechanical engineering and then to buisness majors.


    That's the absolute trifecta.
     
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    That's why I stand corrected, I should have used unrelatable instead of unrealistic....
     
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    Very impressive, laudably distinguished, but can he make soap and cement? That is the question. :blobpeek:

    On a more serious note, manufacture of soap and cement is still in the realm of the believable, if improbable, but what gets my goat is industrial manufacture without a certain level of industrial development in the civilization concerned.
     
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    The thing is, getting isekaid is so random. Most of all, the ones being isekaid are people who you wouldnt expect to be a survivalist or know-it-all.

    Im not saying all, just to clarify myself. The common isekaid people are either...
    1. Salaryman whos day-to-day life is just to eat sleep and work.
    2. Typical students. Those arent with brains like from Dr.Stone. Normal students who does part time work or just student stuff.
    3. Neets and Otaku. I dont really expect them to build anything or outrun anything.

    Which is why its very unrealistic.
    You wont see something like a doomsday prepper getting isekaid or reincarnated. Nor a gym freak whos body would be doing good in triathlons.
     
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    well knowing various stuff is not unrealistic, the problem on how it executed on story no?
    is the ingredient or substitute ingredient available? remember some JP MC obsession with mayo? or sayo? that fermented stuff with blackcolor~ also rice~
     
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    Oh, I didn't know about the relationship between astronauts and science field professionals but medicine andd military should still be enough for a protagonist life for him after transmigration

    He learned soap and cement making from youtube as a hobby....
    More surprising is the fact that the public just praises the protagonist for their inventions and not go "burn that witch" because of how unique the stuff they make is

    Right, these protagonists either get a system golden finger or the world just goes "wow" because of their modern views on stuff or how "different" they are, in looks or in personality

    Execution is the key for sure...
     
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    I would like to disagree with the third. You would be surprised at what an otaku is capable of, especially when separated from manga/anime/LN etc. Think of a junkie not getting any drugs and going into a violent withdrawal state. A very knowledgable and motivated junkie.
     
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    Well, for starters, on most novels, the chosen protagonists were either corporate employees, students, neets, or just some random dude, and only a few who were actually in those amazing background like a super soldier or something, so it's actually quite unrealistic for them to know the recipe for soap and cement, unless it was explained like why they know it like they specifically researched it to create their own soap for personal use or something, or researched cement to get a cheap cement to repair their home or something.
     
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    It's not common knowledge. Sure, someone might know how to make their own soap, but do you know anyone who makes their own cement?

    An author can of course give their MC a specialized background to justify that knowledge but then that background should show in their personality.
     
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    These are the JP ones, CN novels have those "assassin-doctor-actor-ultimate god" protagonists who knows everything and changes the fate(takes revenge) of original body because they are using their body( I'm talking about the old novels though where the OP MC transmigrated into a concubine's disregarded daughter(for females) and "the fool" in the cultivation family(for males), new ones have variety of transmigration and authors are trying to fill the loopholes too), supposedly the assassin knows everything because his job required him to fill in various roles so that he can seamlessly kill the targets without getting caught, he basically had a little QT novel MC experience in one life.

    What personality do you need for an OP transmigrated MC, a cold ruthless MC who maintains a polite facade, a happy-go-lucky cheerful kind person so the world falls for them , a stupid person with luck off the charts, or a mishmash of these, basically sums up most MCs( I'm still talking about the old novels though, where everything was stereotyped, the MCs are getting a not so stereotyped personality nowadays )
     
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    I mean unrealistic simply means inappropriate to reality or fact. Gotta say that transmigration is already very unrealistic lol
     
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    Even if you have knowledge, production would be difficult and almost impossible as technology doesn't just instantly advance because of an idea, you need manpower and almost majority of this type of plot have the mc make the finish product first and then get people to make it. Like damn how did you conjured up that raw material. You need to know how each raw material is produced and how to extract it, the process, unless it's a magical world where everything can be reasoned with magic. Of course, it's not like that author will explain the full process, including where they sourced their material, it's mostly never mentioned how a material that shouldn't be discovered yet at that time is then used by the mc. The most ridiculous I've seen is Dr. Stone, which only made me think "oh, this mangaka is seriously thinking their readers are dumb to be entertained by this bs", if I was 11 I'd probably be fine with it and admire him for being smart and learn from him but being an adult it's quite a turn off.
    Also soap is easy as you can literally use fat plus wood ash.
     
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    Me who only reads transmigration, reincarnation, rebirth for the most part feels attacked.....

    Yeah totally, there's only one novel I've read where the protagonist actually had trials and errors in the process of making things, and sometimes they're not even in a high position where they can get whatever they want but everything works out eventually, well if we actually talk about the realistic aspects of novels then almost every genre consists something unrealistic which we ignore for our peace of mind because not everything is logical. I've not read Dr. Stone so I cannot comment but hang in there...
     
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    This seems interesting. Mind telling me the title? :blobpeek:
     
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    I'm sorry I don't remember the name because it was an untranslated novel, I remembered this detail because it's not seen in many novels where the protagonist doesn't pass in one try but the story must've been pretty generic for me not to remember anything else about this except this detail.
     
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    No for real. My best friend is suuper smart. Their google chrome is always full of Wikipedia tabs. Super good at math, knows random facts, history, architecture, art, geography…. basically anything they’re interested in, they learn about it. Not to mention street smart. I would not be surprised if they knew the exact process of making soap or cement lol