Discussion ORV moving to Qidian; How does Qidian work?

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  1. puppytoe

    puppytoe Member

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    So I just saw RainbowTurtle's announcement about moving ORV to Qidian, and I was wondering how exactly Qidian works? I was under the impression Qidian exclusively did chinese novels and ORV is a korean novel

    Also, from my understanding, its a site that sells translated novel chapters online but is it pay per chapter? Will Rainbow continue working on the translations?

    Any kind of positive explanations on this whole transition would be super appreciated!
     
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    Jarrow Well-Known Member

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    "Qidian" "Positive explanations"
    Does Not Exist.

    Summary: Be prepared to pay through the nose for any future reading. Once the novel gets copied over, RT will delete the 110 chapters and it will only be available via QI premium. Not really complex.

    Since the series is currently ongoing, and there are more than 300 chapters, it will probably go premium for anything after ch110 for the next year. If it's popular enough, then the entire thing will go under paywall.
     
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  3. DocB

    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

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    SoulZer0 Heaven Refining

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    Qidian works? Nah, you work for Qidian.
     
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    Blitz ⛰️️️ Hi⛈️ ☄️melted butter on warm bread❄️

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    Turtles post explained most of it already.
    Qidian bought shares in munpia and have already translated some of their novels. They outbid WW for the novel
     
  6. anhrefn

    anhrefn [NTR Sect Leader]       [True Ancestor]

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    money talks
     
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    Omniscient readers viewpoint
     
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  8. puppytoe

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    Yikes, sorry guys, I read her announcement through her patreon and didnt even actually read the one on the blog. It sounds like Rainbow is going to continue the translations as well, which is good though
     
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    Expatamoeba Have eyes but still couldn't see Mount Tai

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    I'm still waiting for them to release Solo Leveling.
     
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    anhrefn [NTR Sect Leader]       [True Ancestor]

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    meh, I don't read it anyway. Even if I want to read it someday, I can always read it on a pirate site
     
  11. peanutbutter_J

    peanutbutter_J Well-Known Member

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    Qidian strikess again hHahaah....
    Most of Qidian's translated novels are trash anyway.
    For this ORV either you shud give up or bite the bullet, this qidian will sucks you dry as dry as King Tut mummified balls.
    Good luck

    Edit: i have just realize that Qi is webnovel now, this is a scam.
     
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    QI is primarily Chinese as they are an English language part of the larger China Reading, which also includes normal Qidian. They licensed the novel from Munpia, the Korean platform, which their parent company is an investor in.

    Rainbow Turtle is remaining the translator in this case. Their pay rates aren't very good, part of the reason they have so many low quality translations, but they do pay their translators.

    Some chapters are free but some require you to use their microtransaction currency (Spirit Stones) to read, particularly on more popular novels.
     
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  13. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    I have much respect for Rainbow Turtle's work and despite starting as a machine translator, her translations were very good. Of course I don't know how accurate her translations were since I can't read Korean. I can understand her decision to continue at webnovel and I wish her luck.

    However, you ask if there's a positive explanation. I'm not sure what you're asking, but there is nothing positive to say about Qidian. Once a novel is hosted on Qidian, it's dead. They will milk it until it's no longer profitable, milk them a bit more, then let it die. All translators who work for them will work at minimum pay with a slave contract, then milked until they die. Same goes with their contracted originals stories.

    They have a habit of milking every cow to death while claiming they have no cow.
     
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  14. puppytoe

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    Is Qidian responsible for Solo Leveling's translations?
     
  15. puppytoe

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    By positive explanations, I meant like a nontoxic way of telling me the situation. The situation itself doesnt sound too great though
     
  16. Jigoku Shounen

    Jigoku Shounen An Envoy From Hell

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    Poor RB...She moved OG from GT to WW because she wanted to avoid Q....but now one of her beloved "child"(ORV) got "caught" by them so she is forces to work for them so her "child" won't be tainted(MTL quality).....:blobsad::blobcry:
    That's why we(the community) need to support WW so much.....they started out as a Fan-translation group turn to a Start-up Publishing Company, while Q is already a Big Name in China and has the backing of their "Big Boss" Tencent....they can get all the money they need whenever they need "to do something with money"...:blobdevil:
    You are asking a Dang Hard Request here....but fine, here's the short summary
    • Q = Biggest Publishing/Hosting Platform Company in China
    • QI: They are reaching out to International Community, so they added "International" to their name as 1st, but their "ambition" didn't just stop as CN novels, so they changed to "Webnovels" to get novels from other countries as well. Tencent,their Big Boss, got shares in Munpla, so for now they are reaching out to KR novels through Munpla, the largest hosting platform/publishing company in KR
    • ORV was a novel that RB was planning to move to WW. But Q got their eyes on it because of the Great Popularity that RB(a Big name in the Community) brought out to the Community, so they also bid for it because it's a Munpla novel. Since they could get all the Money they need from both their businesses in China and their Boss Tencent, so they outbid WW, a Former Fan-translation group that turned to Publishing Company(obviously....:blobpensive:).
    • RB could have just let them had the novel and be done with it, but with Q was already known for their MTL quality which pumped out chapters like Factory Machine, and because she had already worked on ORV for good amount of times now to view it as her "child", so she didn't want Q "to butcher" it. And in the end, she signed a (slave) contract "to work" with Q on ORV.
    • Munpla told Q to make premium for all their KR novels after 40 chapters, so now ORV in Q will also suffer the same fate.
    • The "pirates" will have to add one more "spoil" to their "treasure list"
     
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  17. Loni4ever

    Loni4ever The Fluffy White Wolf

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    That's sad.... I sure don't know everything there is to know about Q, but from what I've seen it's really ..... ..... it's like Q is tainting its novels by the way they act. At this point I don't even wanna consider reading novels if they're from Q :l
     
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  18. puppytoe

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    @Jigoku Shounen I really appreciate the huge summary you just made for us
     
  19. checkm8

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    Dimensional Sovereign has also shown up on Webnovel. Hopefully, Rainbow Turtle made some money to move the completed novel there. It was previously removed from her site due to a takedown request from Munpia.
     
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    Feel like this should be posted any time people are lamenting a novel moving to QI... [Redacted - Piracy is piracy]. Easy reading, epubs available, the works. Exclusively takes QI Premium novels as a matter of protest, rather'n just being a blind aggregator site out for money (being a sub, it makes exactly nothing money-wise).
     
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