Spoiler Overgeared

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  1. LordKarsus

    LordKarsus Well-Known Member

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    If Grid kills Fenrir before he dies, he'd still get the drop. It's possible that the blessing would last past resurrection.

    As for Ruby... Well, she wouldn't be destroying Fenrir's soul... He'll be more useful as a pet for Grid. Unless Grid somehow gained all his powers.

    Which sounds unlikely, unless the author is super committed to giving Grid serious power-ups right now. Which would make some sense for example, if he was trying to finish off the story quickly.
     
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    The fire power of Grid in PVE was absolute. Each clone was a moving bomb if you've killed one,Plus his regen from Rebecca(gods hands), holy light armor which is Over powered in instant healing and Queen of Flames regen its nuts. Thanks for the chapter :)
     
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    That would suck if they are rushing to finish. Personally I think instead of trying to rush the story, maybe they are building Grid up so much just to pull him down just as hard.

    Like if despite all these power ups, when he meets Maria rose and is still in able to come close to her strength.

    I'm really hoping he's more along the lines of the strength of the heavenly kings of hell of the 30's seated great demon. You know, climb a mountain only find a great one beyond the peak, and all that.

    We still haven't seen mechanical golems and ghosts and sea creature and all that. Actually you what, he might just be gradually reaching the tier of myth, but once he does, hell have to go past the legends and fight creatures of myth, ancient beings, spiritual beings and all that
     
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    He's really trying to live up to trying to a "legend doesn't die easily"
     
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    Listen to the song Rise- a song from L.O.L While reading the chapter you'll feel the new Gen Undefeated king will rise :D
     
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    Will we finally see what his second epic really does?
     
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    I completely forgot about that, lol he has 2 immorality moments now
     
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    There's no backlash because the 100k swordsmanship is weak.
    – Tower of Wisdom 9th Seat
     
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    There are still a lot of skills or benefits that Grid still never showed us. Like whenever grid made 5 legendary/myth rated items didn't we only see like 4 results?

    Also didn't grid get a unique skill book for the quest where he killed limit
     
  10. Lmaster

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    Another big text ...

    I really hope they're rushing the story and giving Grid a lot of power to defeat him, I really want him to find something so dangerous that he has to use the 3 origin energy and yet he can't beat his opponent, and there will come the consequences and he will lose half of the status and will have to use the Paint, to regain the status and continue the fight, and he will do all this to gain time or protect something that is very important to him, save Lord or someone close to him, or facing a great demon who is wanting to destroy the kingdom and in the end, he will for some reason return to level 1, either by becoming a myth during this great battle or for some consequence, and from there he will do everything from the beginning and take advantage of everything he has not done out of arrogance, pride or some excuse to "escape the difficulty", he will do everything from the beginning as best he can, learn tailoring and magic seriously, and he'll stop crying about how he has no talent and will create something to make up for it, and he'll be trained by Piaro, Mercedes, Stick, Bharam, Asmophel and others of his subordinates or even people he doesn't know yet, but he will look for them and ask to be trained. I don't know why, but maybe it's Grid's arrogance, why doesn't he ask to be trained by his subordinates? most are the best in their class, I think Grid has to take advantage of that, since satisfy offers endless possibilities and freedoms, like, why doesn't he ask Stick, who is the elf he claims to be a great tailor and and asks to be trained by him? as opposed to trying to learn on his own and taking centuries if he knows he has no talent, because wasting time trying to learn on his own when he is a king and can with his contacts learn from a teacher better than him and offer something in return (which normal players don't have), that's how he did it with the forge thanks daddy khan (rest in peace), he could learn Piero's natural state even if it's a lower version , If Lord and Bland (field magic swordsman) can, why not him? And it is worth remembering that Piaro is training a lot of players, I don't think a Legend like Piero, and a world as open as Satisfy, doesn't offer freedom to learn skill outside the class, and he doesn't learn alchemy why? he hates the alchemy and doesn't notice the great potential he would have in his skills, another, why doesn't he invoke madra's ego to teach him? if he has no talent he should use something to make up for it, and being a king and a legendary blacksmith, I think he has many ways to make up for it, how many people could learn from a legend? Grid is very focused on Forging and gaining exp, not noticing the opportunities he is missing, just as he made powerful items only for strong guild members, and medium items for soldiers,and this had consequences in the war against the empire, in the invasion of the wyverms and gryphons, showed that he did not do his best, he focused only on him and his close colleagues, what if he made the tools of the alchemy lab? or the equipment for all facilities or useful for the growth of the people, he need not do all for himself after all he has several blacksmiths, but he must make at least the mold, he only made for the armor of the soldiers, Wasn't the essence of the forge "creating tools to help people"? he only creates items for him and his close colleagues, but what about his people or other areas of development? Grid calls himself dumb and untalented, so I think he should be humble and accept to be "trained" and even learn from his colleagues both the Npc and the players, all he learned and made him strong was learning from another, the fusion Pagma's Swordsmanship was through the clone, the forge was through the Khan, the magic was bharam, Grid's strength comes from the powers and knowledge he gets from friends or allies, but he doesn't take the initiative to learn from them, it's just a consequence of him watching them and learning, or when they offer to train him or says he needs to do it, aside from the case of Khan, and Piaro when he was not king, after that was when he learned tailoring, but it was the Stick that went to him to say that he needed to learn, it costs him to have the initiative and ask to be trained? Mercedes, Asmophel, Stick, Piaro, Madra, and others, as a legend and king he has many ways to learn, remember how Huroi started a quest because he wanted to? In the beginning, where he took advantage of the villagers' problems and decided to offer a solution that was "talk to the Lord" and he offered to fulfill this mission, and so a mission was created by him taking advantage of it, I wanted Grid Do the same, for him who is a king, starting a Training mission with one of his subordinates should make it easier for him to become stronger.

    sorry for the mistakes and the big text, using translator
     
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    Grid cant take it all
    And great tailor is not Stick
    Grid cant use all his time to improve his kingdom at first yes(when he still duke eternal ( because his territory is small)and grid teach new generation of blacksmith and grid cannot create everything for his kingdom he just don't have any time he need to grind exp to keep his 1st position do tailoring,create some fucking uniq leg myth item that need 2 day at least wtf man if he want to do it all himself why bother teach new gen blacksmith
    And grid is fucking slow learner he can't even use all his skill
     
  12. Lmaster

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    Another big text, and sorry for the mistakes again.

    He doesn't need to create everything, just the frame like the cannon he along with other blacksmiths forged, he doesn't have to cling to rank, rank won't save the kingdom, and he barely gets exp after level 400, to gain exp from now, from my point of view is completing quest, like the quests of the east continent, where you get 30% exp upon completion, Stick is not the great tailor, I probably wrote it wrong, I was referring to the elf Stick said to have made his clothes, and even if it takes 2 months for Grid to make a mythic item, wouldn't it be better in the long run? he's been spending a lot of his time making clothes, but what if he had the tailor's equipment in mythical rarity? Wouldn't he get much more out of the time he spends making item with the legendary rarity tailor items that only have 1 option, since he is a legendary blacksmith with max level skill and can make item better? remembering that Kruger's items were not even made by Pagma, every item Pagma made for the legends he revived is written that "made by the legendary blacksmith and Baal's Contractor, Pagma." but not those from Kruger's and Gis's pickaxe, and one can tell by their quality, the Kruger's items are made up of parts of a dragon and only have 1 option? And he doesn't have to do everything on his own, which is why I said that he must depend on others and learn from them, and leave the safety of the kingdom in the hands of his colleagues as he tries to improve himself, the reason for him to level up is to protect the kingdom, right? not by rank, the rank is only for markting, but the second place is not Cris? so grid doesn't need to focus on that since his colleagues are already at the top of the rank. And yes, I agree with you, Grid learns slowly, another reason for him to look for a teacher and not try it alone. If he gives up hunting for monsters and just goes after the Bosses and Nomed Npc, he's a king, and can do that, and stop learning tailoring on your own and look for a teacher, I guarantee there's plenty of time for him to do every single thing that I said one by one, and because he wants to do things alone he has no time '-'. Remember when he took mercedes to gain exp? With his information network and Stick, he can't just go after the named Boss and Npc and quest that give exp, And if he uses the remaining time to make the best equipment in each area, such as the blacksmith craftsman, knights, the facilities, he only has one alchemy facility, and a limited number of craftsman and knight, and make a high-quality blueprint make a blueprint and give it to the craftsman so that they produce for those with lower rank than them. Do you remember how Grid lost a game day because he wanted to save money on moving furniture from home to new apartment, so he decided to make the move himself and was told by Toon that the time he spends moving furniture he could do much more money in the game? Grid is a king, being in the top rank, others from the guild can do, protecting the kingdom, others from the guild or kingdon can do and even better than him, look at Piaro, Chis can hunt all day long, he's not a blacksmith after all, Piaro and Mercedes and Soldiers can protect the kingdom from most problems, but what about equipment? Is someone better than Grid to make them? why learn tailoring on your own? if you are a king and can ask someone to teach you and in return would you give something? an item made by the legendary blacksmith perhaps? That's what I think, if he's slow to learn, he needs a teacher, if he can't get stronger or it's taking too long, he should focus on others, if he has no time, he should leave things that others can do and focus on what only he can and ask for help, Grid has reached the highest level as a Blacksmith, skill at level 10, and instead of trying new things to try to go beyond, he's waiting for a quest to come out of nowhere or someone to come and tell him that there is still a lot left, remember the stick going to tell him to learn tailoring? If this does not happen, Grid would be waiting for a quest to appear out of nowhere? and when he had doubts about the Sword Energy? there is an Npc named Chucksley he is the knight who protects the Lord and is a great swordsman, Grid as king could have asked him about the energy of the sword, lastly, satisfy is equals a "real world" said the creator Lin himself, look at Kraugel, he became a sword saint but wanted to go beyond, what did he do? he asked to be taught by Kirinus, imagine if he was waiting for a quest to appear? If you want to be better and want to do it fast, wouldn't it be correct to have the initiative and look for someone better than you to learn? or learning on your own, knowing you have no talent and wasting time, sometimes learning on your own is the only option, but in Grid's case, a King has no better options?
     
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    I'm still waiting for Grid to use that "create one new active skill" that he got a while back for some achievement. If it's like his Item Creation skill, that one new active skill could be something crazy.
     
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    When in terms of the tailor equipment, he can't do something with much better options than Kruger's. How can you add options on a scissors other than cutting all types of leather,scales and fabric? One of the Best tailor in west continent is Fatima at craftsman level and even Fatima passed his tailoring techniques he just can learn it to intermediate because he's still lacking and got to advance class because of braham passing some production method materials. Learning it alone is the best method than rushing to level up because of the stats given. In blacksmithing he can't do that because of there's no stats given on lower than myth items. Don't worry about leveling up he can hunt in god wars temple with full buffs of Nefelina his sword a potion plus sariels reward. He can't go back to the east continent until all of his Knights/retainers/ members reaches 450-500+ specially if he's the main target of the yangbans
     
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    A wild ride sure is.It's effects/damage will be greater than his current skills specially if he mastered all his Passives combining all resources into one.
     
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    Is it easy to search for teacher
    For common player ezpz
    For kraugel grid class hell mode
    Kraugel find kirinus so fucking hard he need to timely meet kirinus and then learn 3 fcking year to learn something but worth it 10%max hp dmage is op
    Grid learn something from hexetia right how hard to meet hexetia?

    Apart from the empire, ordinary kingdoms normally had less than 10 advanced blacksmiths.as for adv tailor who knows
     
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    The create skill can be useless or game breaking, it just depends on how creative he chooses to be with it, and while I agree that it would be nice for him to be taught by others to improve his skill he does have other responsibilities, and that's why he isn't always constantly grinding.

    Speaking of, didn't grid had a king quest, there was that time he had to take on like 1000 different jobs and another one to help like 1000 people. Ares had the same thing, and the quests give unique rewards. Whatever happen to that
     
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    If it's anywhere near as OP as the sculptural resurrection skill Weed created in LMS then he would be breaking the balance of the game.

    For reference, imagine some level 550 boss is summoned. All Grid would need to do is resurrect say, Muller and between the two, he could monopolize all the rewards by himself. Or Khan and see the kind of item created by 2 legendary blacksmiths.
     
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    Grid taking a partial apprenticeship with Hexetia would've been interesting.

    One imagines that it would come with suitable restrictions. Like the backlash for the 200K Madra technique.

    Maybe a "You can die one time, to resurrect an NPC - experience loss proportional to Level of NPC resurrected relative to yours"

    Skills with heavy sacrifice might be interesting. He might be able to create a copy of a "1 Million Army xxx" technique, even if the cost is outrageous. Like "Uses up the equivalent of Max Fighting and Sword Energy, and has a backlash of all HP, including 1 immortality save"

    I imagine Grid would never intentionally create a skill like his Baal's Eyes "Sacrifice a Legendary Weapon, to create something else that lasts for one day". Although that would work better if it was "Sacrifice 100 Epic items to recreate a Legendary item". Since he can create Epic items easily, that would be a constraint he could work with.
     
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    It should be more like copy a certain item that last for a day and it's performance is based on the rating of the item sacrificed like legendary grants 100% replication and unique create a degraded version with 75% of the original performance...