Plot holes in xianxia and xuanhuan novels

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  1. Tyieeb

    Tyieeb Active Member

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    You know I always get confused with two things in these types of novels
    The first why are the elders in high ranking sect always old? I mean isn't there a thing where the higher level you get to the more slowly you age and once you reach a certain level you regain youthful properties again and don't age anymore. Now many might be saying that they may not be that highleveled ot talented but the current generation elders were once the most genius diciples in their generation that was the reason they were chosen as elders so why are the elders the old guyand not look young and handsome.
    The second we know in these novels the more weapons or demon beasts age they absorb surrounding energy (Qi, mana etc) and once they absorbed a certain amount of energy they have heavenly tribulation then they can take human form so where is the spirit of the world or heaven itself? in these novels the protagonists are shown as the strongest but what authors do not mention is about the spirit of heaven or the world itself I mean the world and heaven themselves have an inherent energy pool so its only natural for them to take human form! so my question is why don't they.

    Thank you for listening to my ramblings now if any author would be so kind to answer it i would appreciate it!!!
     
  2. kennykdogg

    kennykdogg Sage of 7 sins

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    Is it CN rant night. If so i got a problem with harem seek MCs the majority of them are cringey because they happen too fast or the mc seem like a beta trying to be a alpha male. Especially the reborn virgins.
     
  3. lucjanssens

    lucjanssens a very ¨rabbit¨ bunny

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    the second is because they don't have a real conscious and even if they did why would they get involve with us pitiful mortals
    the conscious of the heaven and earth is probably closer to a computer system then a real sentient mind
     
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  4. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    1st question:
    Yes they were the best in the generation but that doesn't mean that they can't get stuck and age.
    2nd question:
    In most part heaven is just an earth and atmosphere and its would be stupid if in middle of novel earth pops up legs and jump into sun.
    Edit: and there are stuff when the heaven feels humanlike ISSTH
    It's not plot holes just you overthinking
     
  5. Someguy666

    Someguy666 MILF Sect Leader

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    Those Elders are old because they are no-talents who achieved their positions from eating-and-waiting-for-death. The wealth they have come from scavenging, grave-robbing, copyright infringement & bullying those who cannot fight back. Thus their juniors are trash who walk around going "Dont you know who this Young Master is?" for the MC to jump levels to kill and loot and grow faster as the Elders chase after him in the stupidest way possible for "face".
     
  6. Raneday

    Raneday aaaa padoruuuuu♫♪♫

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    that reason... :blobsweat_2::blobsweat_2::blobsweat_2:
     
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  7. Stealth

    Stealth Step Sister for Lewd

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    atleast heaven n earth only gain will. like in WMW

    rather than manifest themselves they will choose an envoy bearing their will
     
  8. Archaic pickle

    Archaic pickle Daoist Heavenly Kimichi

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    On the old people part alot of novels they aren't immortal until they reach a higher stage in cultivation, or even then they must surpass the heavens first. Immortality is going against heavens will and they have to fight against it that's what the heavenly tribulation is about.

    I think it's to juxtapose how fast the mc is cultivating somewhat
    Because you won't see the higher levels cuz they already moved past that stage.
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  9. Overclock

    Overclock Well-Known Member

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    1. I don't think all novels do or have to follow the format of regaining youth. If the novel does say that, but there are old men who are said to be strong enough to regres in age or be immortal, I guess it's a plot hole.

    2. Never read a novel with that stuff before.
     
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  10. sufod01

    sufod01 Ghost

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    No all Xianxia is about « won’t age after reaching Nth realm. »
    Won’t be sad if they stuck forever with a shota or loli body? (No sad for all i know.)
     
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  11. Anra7777

    Anra7777 All powerful magic grammar hamster queen pirate.

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    ... Have you given My Disciple Died Yet Again a try? I’m afraid that if I were to tell you which question that novel answers, it would be too spoilery. But I think that novel will help with your question(s).
     
  12. Neigh

    Neigh "Lich-King" "Harem-Fan" "Tragedy-Hater"

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    1. maybe the elders are the only People left ,while all others (who stay young) died wars, conflicts etc.
    2. Well the heavenly energie Is in all in such Novels, but only Rare ores/Metals, Herbs, Bones and such are used by the People. Cause they can Absorb more of this Energie and hold it. That makes them Worth.
     
  13. Sordahon

    Sordahon 『One Person Virtue Is Another One Sin』

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    Junior martial sister, grand martial aunt, senior martial sister, etc etc.
     
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    Paps Well-Known Member

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    Well the fact that they are old even whe they reached an stage where they slowed down their aging property is a statement of how mutch expierence they have. If they look like 70 gramps and were the freaks of their generation, means that they have lived a (scuse my wording) fuckton long time, so they have seen and expierence a lot of shit. Now it is a damn plot hole but one can sometimes brush it over. And the second one, if this was a JP it migth happen they do believe that objects with enough influence can develope a will, it is not such a strong issues with the CN novels so maybe they don't consider the inanimate objects to be capable of acquiring a will, if not all those mountains that guet destroyed by one move of the big cultivators, would be repeling the attacks and joining the fights given that they must have been around since the forming of the world HAHAHAHAHA. One of the biggest plotholes in any work is plot armor, specialy in the Xianxia and Xuanhuan novels where the supposedly a Level 3 is ten times stronguer that a Level 2 and so the lower level can never beat the upper one, but MC been a Level 2 tramples all over a Level 4.
     
  15. hanglekuk

    hanglekuk Well-Known Member

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    you mean there's supposed to be a plot? It's like the porn movies. You just follow action, plot is for other novels.
     
  16. GDLiZy

    GDLiZy Wise Deepsea Mermaid

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    Not every genius of the sects would become supreme masters at the apex Once they had exhauted their own potential, their cultivation process would slow down and finally come in contact with the bottleneck If they couldn't break it, then they could only wait until they died of old age.
    The world isn't the beasts that inherit it. Usually, the world will be the heaven that sends down tribulation because cultivation itself is a way to go against heaven.
     
  17. Simon

    Simon [The Pure One's Chief Steward][Demon Beast]

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    What's the point of appearing younger if no one is going to recognize you.

    Plus men reach their sexiness in their late 30's - early 40's.
     
  18. GloomUnderNight

    GloomUnderNight "DOMO HAJIMEMASHITE. I am STRING CUTTER" ©

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    One thing Im really pissed about CN novels is author's exagerrated sense of everything. Like distance between two cities is MILLIONS OF KILOMETERS. Seriously?! Earth Equator length is only ~ 40000 km. The gravity in such a world will squash everything.

    BUT WAIT THERE IS EVEN BETTER THING: ancient cities with BILLIONS OF PEOPLE living there.

    It would be great if the author spend a couple of lines for explanations, but they just dont think about such things
     
  19. lucjanssens

    lucjanssens a very ¨rabbit¨ bunny

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    i have seen porn movies with more plot then most cultivation novels
     
  20. Raneday

    Raneday aaaa padoruuuuu♫♪♫

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    well in their setting the world where the mc lives is waaaaaayy bigger than earth. So that's why the suuuuper big size on everything. from distances and cities