Discussion tl

So, yesterday happened that I noticed that I novel I am reading got a new group translating it, when the main group is still actively posting chapters and never said it dropped it.
So, people started to talk about this, and I read the new group standpoint on this: that is, they are super rude and thinks they didn’t do anything wrong picking it up from one of the latest chapters the main group is translating (not even from ch1). For the new group standpoint, it’s ok poaching another group project and they don’t intend to stop it, nor to even try to think they did break the underground rules of the translation world (btw, it’s a project that started to get famous, so I guess that’s why they decided to poach it).
What do you think about this situation? And I really wanted to know, if there are translators here, what will you do if that happens to you? Mostly,if your release speed is regular and there is no reason why someone can complain.

As for me, I am pretty put off by the second group attitude. They knew very well how the rules works, but they just didn’t care at all about them. Pretty upsetting,

Nb. I will not say which novel it is, I don’t want to create a drama, I just wanna know your opinions on this situation.

 

need some circumstance you can reveal before a judgement.

what's group 1's release rate like? What's their quality like?
same Qs with group 2.

 

raise an army to destroy their website
if they have NUF account SPAM their inbox, profile, etc.
ask mods to not list their release in NU.

 

Need more context than this before I pass any judgement.

 

If the current translator is active, providing translations every day or week, then I disagree with the poacher, that's just rude.

If current translator release like every 2-3 months per chapter and not up to date till raw, might as well give another the chance to translate.

 

Main group depends on the translator freedom, but at least average 2 chap each month. The quality tho is superb, you can see it takes a lot of effort to reach that.

Second group dunno, think they plan a weekly release, but the quality is definitely not good as the first group. Kinda difficult to get the sense of some of their sentences, and it loses totally the poetic sense.

The problem here tho is NOT the speed or quality, it’s the behaviour of the second group. They find it’s ok to just pick the latest chapter a group did and translate it from there, they don’t feel they broke any rule cause “there is no copyright”, which is true, but the undeground rules are there for something, and everyone in the translation world tries to respect them. I would have liked if they at least said they know they are wrong but they wanna translate it anyway. But no, they just attacked people who pointed out they are doing a rude thing not even asking the first group permission

 

report to NU staff, if it is a you say NU will not link the second group releases
Edit: note that this only apply if there is at least 50 chapters (100k words) released by the first translator, if it is less NU rules says it is open project

 

Agreed.
And the quality. It is ok if it is is monthly release as long as the quality is good.

 

is this wujigigi* (don't know the spelling) group? xD

 

The quality of the main group is superb really, reading is a pleasure. You can see translator takes his time and does a flawless job.

I said I won’t write here which groups are involved, don’t want to create a useless drama (and no it’s not that)

 

I don't know, depends on how bad the new releases are and how quick they are

"OK + Fast" is better than "Slow + Excellent" in my books

As a fan, I think it's fine for a series to be "snatched" if the new group is going to take far better care of it than the old group, or release chapters astronomically faster. What I hate is seeing an excellent series fall into obscurity because a translator group is just pecking at it. Nobody wants to wait another five-ten years for a series to be finished or to see the series' potential strangled because someone "got there first" and is only releasing two chapters a month or less. For most people, that's not enough to stay relevant for long, and it tends to end with people giving up or simply forgetting the series exists... unless they're massive fans

I empathize with those translators but I think there are more factors at play than whether or not the group stumbled across the series before a group that loves it more or a more diligent group that is willing to dedicate more attention to it

 

it's rude, but you just need move on to another novel, there's many good novel out there without translator,
or you want make it as a competition between two groups ?

 

I get you point but absolutely disagree.
Why not asking the slower main group then to collaborate? In that case, you can have faster relases AND quality releases. Fast releases means, usually, poor quality, and some novels with poor quality translations lose all the charm they had.

 

No, as I said from the start the problem is not the quality, is the attitude. They can do god translations but if they poach a project without even asking for me they are in the wrong.

Reeee don’t say who they are no drama

 

Sorry, I edited my post about a million times xD Still not sure it accurately captures what I'm trying to say

Also I get where you're coming from but I don't think that's always practical. I do agree that it would be politest for a group to contact another group and ask to take over, though, instead of silently poaching the series

I should also add that my post is more from the perspective of a reader who wants lots of chapters than a translator

 

but we do love dramas here

 

Yeah, I really get what you mean, cause sometimes I think the same. But, that applies when the “good” group is super slow, like, not even 1 ch each month, or they stay 3 months without releases and not saying it. That is annoying, yes. And sometimes I wish the same, that some other group just picks that poor novel up, but it really doesn’t apply here! Yes the speed is not super fast, but it’s pretty regular.

 

Poaching in general is stupid unless the poaching is done for a very good reason (ie novel camping with super super slow releases or the quality is absolutely crappy.)

On this particular matter, i cant make a view on it while not knowing the novel. Someone who knows PM me the novel's nu page plox