Discussion QI take over of TGR

You cannot poach what you own.
It's like QI had a car and Wuxiaworld pimped the car.
The car still belongs to QI even though others worked on it.
It's a derivative work.
I know a bad band who used sheet music for their song but courts ruled that even their original lyrics is owned by the owner of the sheet music(instrumental).
Whenever the band sings the song, the owner of the sheet music gets paid
Source : The Verve- Bittersweet Symphony

Disclaimer: I do not have a music background so I am using such terms loosely

 

You're talking about US copyright laws. IP laws for the most part is based on the country of origin. Qidian is based in China, would you happen to know their IP laws? Just curious.

 

I doubt QI has a translator who skilled enough to translate 1 pharagraph of the novel decently, don't even mention grammarwise, it's a cause for celebration if they could even translated accurately.

And does QI even have right over TGS translation? It's seems to be quite old novel so maybe the rights is still in author's hand. Not sure, just speculation though.

 

From what I gathered it was challenged in Hong Kong so the laws should be similar to the west but no one but the parties involved know for sure.
Also, Qidian and Wuxiaworld signed a contract which is most important and we are not privy to that either. I am referring to why NU cannot classify the original content author as a poacher

 

To use an example: A landlord rents out an apartment to a tenant. They sign a contract denoting duration, terms of use, and payment. The tenant is thus authorized to occupy the apartment. The landlord cannot come back willy nilly and decide they want to stick another tenant in the apartment, take back the apartment, or kick the tenant out of the apartment before the contract is up.

 

So in the future anyone can poach as long as they have 50 chapters or more?

 

True, but it happens a lot especially when the landlord is much more powerful than the tenant.
I guess I didn't use a good enough analogy. Yours is much better.

 

Yes, but tenant files a case for breach of contract and wins.

 

If there are powerful enough they can just bury the tenants in litigation. Hence why I emphasized how powerful they are.
Even Apple and Microsoft and have similar

 

I don't know how much personal experience you have in this "strong opresses the weak in court" thing but what I can tell you is that the weak wins more than you think and awarded a ton in damages to boot. So, I'll disagree with your views on this because I've seen to many cases with big corps. taking an L or forced to settle cases for millions.

 

Ya in the united states not in China's court. You're kinda forgetting which country we dealing with here.

 

It's hongkong and btw, not because you have the perception that lady justice is being screwed over there it is actually happening 100% of the time.

 

I think you are referring to class action lawsuits or when companies are sued by the government like how Google had to pay billions in fines to the EU because of anti-competition practices. Even in the US, it is expensive to sue say Apple. Sometimes it is not worth it

 

No, not class action lawsuits. Yes, it is very hard to sue apple and other bigs but it has been done before.

 

Just came back from shitposting on Qi and I just realized that they censored the word wuxiaworld on the TGR page and comments

 

Rich companies just hire expensive lawyers to find loopholes.
I consider it an exercise in futility. It is always better to settle as quickly as you can

 

Ya when the gain is worth it. However even if you were to sue Qidain right now much damages can you get? How many years and how much money in lawyers do you have to spend to win it? It's just not a very realistic situation to go into a lawsuit.

 

Going forward this incident is going to be a interesting case study. It pretty obvious QI is trying to circumvent their contract with WW and NU rules through a loophole.

I wonder what will happen if QI can't maintain their 50+ chapter and barely meet the 50+ chapter when NU staff start looking at it; a cat and mouse game. I also wonder what will happen if other translation groups release lower quality translations to hijack/poach novels using this loophole.