QIDIAN ad-wall, seriously? === Mega-merge ====

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Kylarin, Aug 1, 2017.

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What are your thoughts on this?

  1. I CALLLEEDDD IT THE WALL IS COMING!!!

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  2. Pteuh... Don't even mention their scumbag ass here on this holy ground...

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  3. Will stick around until pay wall comes then PITCHFORKSSS!!!

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  4. Meh as long as the paywall isn't too bad I'm all g (I'm also a rich 3rd generation chinese young mas

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  5. I don't even care anymore

    24.6%
  6. Not another Qidian thread... nek me nao...

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  1. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*Generous Penny-Pincher*Comedian

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    Hahahaha, but it is a good comparison, there was no megathread when other translators ad walled chapters
     
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  2. Guyver

    Guyver Bio-Booster Armor

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    Well it is nowhere near as bad as this site http://www.novelupdates.com/series/god-of-soul-system/

    Adfly = evil !!!!!!!
     
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  3. akki

    akki [Ani's C☕ffee-mate #3] [Shady Merchant] [Thief]

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    Another merge?
     
  4. Astaroth

    Astaroth empty

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    So what novels, and how many readers? And they didn't first get other translators to stop translating novels you were already reading for free without ads.

    Then on top of that qidian has made so many bad PR moves, and what not, so it's not really comparable. Because we all know this isn't only about adwall or whatever, that's just a part of it.
     
  5. kjoke

    kjoke Well-Known Member

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    Qidian has a bad reputation for a variety of reasons but seriously...since when are people entitled to get things for free? Of course they want to earn money, they'd be idiots if they didn't. And what's the big deal anyway? Watch a 15s ad and read the chapter...If you don't like it, don't read it. You didn't pay anything for it so what do you expect?
     
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  6. DiabolicGod

    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    wuxiaworld has
    1. ads (not forced)
    2. donation system (pay for more chapters than normal / just pay to support TL)

    qidian has
    1. ads (not forced)
    2. ads for latest chapters (forced)

    --> essentially both are totally free to read

    now tell me, if nobody would donate on ww and most had their adblock active at all times, do you think ww could survive?
    no, of course not!
    most people keep adblock active all the time unless forced to disable
    qidian is a company that does business, do you really expect them to trust that the readers disable adblock voluntarily and donate after they threatened (?) translators and forced translators to stop free translations?
    dude, you gotta use that thing in your head
     
  7. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*Generous Penny-Pincher*Comedian

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    Sadly many people are ignoring reality. Given all the costs involved, I don't mind them putting 60 second ads even.
    Only when someone starts their own company that basically saved adults from poverty as Qidian had done do they have the right to complain


    Geez what the hell am I doing in this dumb thread again.
    Simply put readers are looking for slaves to work for them for free
    Nothing is free, if you are not paying then someone else is.
    If you don't want to pay then you don't have a right to consume, it is that simple.
    You do not go to the grocery store and get free stuff.
     
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  8. jackateonetoo

    jackateonetoo Wet Dog

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    My post was in reply to a person who stated that "people act as if they've never seen ad blocked chapters", in response to people complaining about it. I said it doesn't follow because people likely have, or would also complain about linkbucks. The large number of complaints does not invalidate my statement
     
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  9. fuzor100

    fuzor100 Standby mode...

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    just binge read.:blobpopcorn::blobpopcorn::blobpopcorn:
     
  10. kjoke

    kjoke Well-Known Member

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    Might as well make that my signature. At least I'll only have to point at my signature if I ever feel tempted to reply to this kind of pointless thread again. This annoys me more than it should
     
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  11. Ryve16

    Ryve16 Working Hard and Hardly Working

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    First and foremost, i will say this in my defense before anyone judges me: I am not for nor against qidian. I dont care about them. Thats unneeded stress.

    Now to my point: people shouldn't be complaining about adwalls. If you havent noticed, a lot things have adwalls or commercials added to them. Its 30secs, you can do something else while waiting for it to end. Its not the end of the world. And its free. Its not a paywall. Qidian as a business need to somehow make money while putting out free stuff. Complain too much, they just might make it into a paywall.
     
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  12. Baddiez

    Baddiez Well-Known Member

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    Just use the script workaround that was posted a while back if it bothers you.
     
  13. XenoRaku

    XenoRaku 『Lolicon』『Sweet Tooth』『Awoo』『Wan』

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    Every release is a bonus chapter now lol
     
  14. CKtalon_TMW

    CKtalon_TMW Well-Known Member

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    You should stay behind x number of chapters then. The bonus chapters were released weeks ago. If you didn't read the chapter then, you would be having a nearly ad-free experience, but being x chapters behind the most recently ad-walled chapters.

    It's similar to how Patreon advanced chapters work. Patrons are x chapters ahead of the free readers but every new chapter released for free readers give patrons one additional chapter too.
     
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    asriu Well-Known Member

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    so there new thread merged here huh 19637.png
    some people just not realize such thing~ yet~
     
  16. mrttao

    mrttao Well-Known Member

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    The patreon advanced chapters are clearly separated and shown in patreon. So if you are not a patreon you do not even see them.
    These chapters are seamlessly merged
     
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    CKtalon_TMW Well-Known Member

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    You see the adwall, don't watch it and wait a day or two later. Simple as that.

    Don't blame the system when you lack self-control.
     
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  18. mrttao

    mrttao Well-Known Member

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    I don't lack self control, and don't make personal attacks
    All I am doing is explaining to you the difference since you don't seem to grasp it, with your faulty analogies.

    You are also strawmanning a lot and apparently have literally not read any of the actual arguments anyone made
     
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    CKtalon_TMW Well-Known Member

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    The video ad plays only when you click it. No one is forcing you to click it. If you hate the idea of watching the ads, don't play it. Wait a day or two, and the chapters become 'un-adwalled'.

    There's no argument needed. The choice is up to you.
     
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  20. mrttao

    mrttao Well-Known Member

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    Keep on strawmanning like a chump while patting yourself on the back.

    All I have said to you so far is that your analogy of "this is identical to patreon early view" is false. Because it is, this is not patreon. On several counts:
    1. patreon requires money and this is free.
    2. patreon wall is less in your face.

    You take this and are building an entire array of imagined conclusions from that. And then lash out

    In regards to ad walls, I don't particularly mind. my only stance on that was that it is immense hypocritical of qidian to steal WW translations with the argument of "we are doing this for the good of community cause WW has obtrusive ads (they don't)" And then a few days later QI introduces ads much more obtrusive than WW.

    Me making this argument is not a sign of me being a "parasite", or "entitled", it is not a sign of me having "weak will who can't even resist clicking an ad" or any other such retarded nonsense you spew out of your shithole. It is just me pointing out their hypocrisy and how shitty they are. Me pointing out your stupid analogy is wrong is not me being "weak willed" nor is it me "complaining that you hate ad walls/watching ads". it is merely me telling you your analogy is wrong

    You have literally made zero arguments so far that were not strawmen, you clearly have not read the thread at all. All you are doing is spouting strawmen while patting yourself on the back. Not just at me, but at people in general
     
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