Spoiler Rebirth: Noble Woman, Poisonous Concubine

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  1. Ashie

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    The eldest prince tried marry her because he wants the power of her family or because he likes her?
    And did MC have any admirers?
     
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    Eldest prince just wants her for her father's power. <C has many admirers because she is very very beautiful but they're more the flies buziing around type than the type who is seriously in love. There are many men who see her beauty and her father's power and want to marry her but ML is the only one who truly admires her for the person she is and wants her for that.
     
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    So there are none man that really likes ML besides MC? Did MC have friends?
     
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    Does anyone know how old the ML is?
     
  6. Marilisa

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    I find the third prince (Lian Ji Ye, according to mtl) not likeable as character despite really loving the shu sister. I only MTL'ed until chapter 11,

    but he suggested to take MC as concubine during the whole pregnancy test. Basically the whole virginity test was a rouse, the real plan was to get an imperial doctor to check on her. The prince comes storming in during this time, trying to get the mc to leave. It failed and he had to announce he was planning to marry the sister and marry mc as a concubine to distract from the whole situation. As he assumes MC will agree to this despite her being the di daughter and the sister the shu daughter (She used to agree with all his plans/suggestions in the past). Furthermore, he suggested that it was really open-minded of him to take MC as concubine because of all the bad rumors (he spread it himself!) and will have a hard time marrying someone else. He was singing praises of the sister during the whole proposal (dude is blind as a bat). Additionally, he suggested MC and Sis have a "really good" relationship and because of that won't be slighted after entering his fu (Pfffft). The father and the grandmother were outraged at the proposal and firmly rejected it. (After the rejection, he was lamenting that he as prince never had to beg, but was so firmly rejected that he lost a lot of face. It comes across as really spoiled:cautious:). From MC's own thoughts we learn that he participated with the shu sister in humiliating her during her first life.

    He is double-faced, I am telling you. He doesn't have a spine either. After a few words from his mother and the Eldest prince and changed the plan back to marrying MC as princess consort. I can understand you might want to marry her for power, but ignore her and let lead a peaceful life. No need to humiliate her. The dude obviously doesn't like MC either. Serves him just right that he feels regrets. As for the sister, Shu Fei never liked her from the start. She thinks she seduced her son etc.

    As for the Eldest prince, he and his mother were planning the have MC married to him in the first place but the ages gap was to hug so the little brother (Third prince) had to do it.
     
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    Shu Fei would have been completely and absolutely correct.
     
  8. kiti

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    The 3rd Prince's behaviour was mainly based on how he'd seen MC act till then. She was a brainless man-chaser with no virtues or talents who was totally crazy over him, in his view. In her first life, the shu sister was married first to the prince because MC was too young to get married. MC was later married after a few years as the legitimate wife but demoted to concubine due to the schemes of her sister. The humiliations she was put through were all justified in the view of the 3rd prince and shu sister because MC was in the way of their "true love". There couldn't be a peaceful life because her existence and her obsession for the 3rd prince would always threaten them.
     
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    He wanted love and power. I can at least accuse him for being greedy. Then again his mother and brother doesn't leave him much choice either. He is more like a pawn than anything else. Since MC married the merchant "prince", I take it that the father supported neither the eldest prince and the third prince, but someone else?
     
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    Yeah... father didn't take any sides in the succession struggle at all in this life. In the previous life, he had to support the Eldest Prince because of MC's marriage and that led in a way to the family's downfall.
     
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    Aeiru28 Unchanged Melody

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    hey, can someone explained about the imperial family relationship? I really get confused by them since the MTL make it like the prince is not the emperor's son or some similar...
     
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    The imperial family of Dongming has 3 princes (I think) - Eldest Prince and 3rd Prince are born from Shu Fei, 2nd Prince is born from the queen. There's also a princess (not sure who her mom is). In addition, there is Chen Wang who is the emperor's brother and supported by the Empress Dowager for the throne. Chen Wang has 2 sons - Chen Wang Shizi (heir born from main wife) and Lian Yu who is born from a concubine. Later in the story, other imperial families get introduced too. Is this the one you meant?
     
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    yes.... thank you for the answer..
    and here I thought Chen Wang is the 2nd prince... haha...
     
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    Huh.. Her daddy be a smooth operator.
     
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    The smoothest. There's hints that either the MC told her dad about her past life events or that her dad himself is a reincarnator. He's also quite young and handsome. The author describes him as a stunningly handsome man in his 30's with great intelligence and acumen in both civil and military worlds.
     
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    Just because you find her brainless doesn't mean you have to treat her like trash. He even tried to rape our MC for refusing to marry him. It is a way to force someone to marry you, when they refuse to become your wife concubine or princess consort. At least, ML was nearby to save her:X3::X3:. Despite the incident atleast the ML pretty much had his heart set on her after it.

    The eldest prince is not much better. He tried to force her to marry one of his subordinates (the peasant general from chapter 3*) after the whole deal with little bro's rape attempt.
    *I MTL'ed this, but I think the mentioned peasant general is actually a calvary marquis. In other words a titled general. He forced her to marry a son of one of his concubines.

    Does the third prince ever redeem himself in front of MC? Why does my gut feeling tells me that the real antagonist is the eldest prince?

    The father is really great. He is simply refusing the let anyone marry MC who will only marry her for his support. He doesn't care if he insults and make a lot of enemies in the imperial court. Atleast, he got the third prince spanked 30 times due to his influence.
     
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    How many reincarnator do we have here? I have 2 confirmed, MC and this one girl antagonist who will die almost at the end... but is MC’s father one too? In the extras, which i sort of skimmed, there was a thought that PM’s new wife was last life’s concubine?
     
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    Yeah... there was a mention in the extras that PM had married Rong Yue (new wife) as a "flat wife" in the previous life because he had married another noblewoman as main wife due to being controlled by poisonous insects. In this life, he wanted to make sure that RY was the main wife. This mention of past life and another mention towards the last few chapters that the only way the PM could have known certain things was if he could see the future, make me think PM was also a reincarnator.

    Honestly, I can't see how he'd know who RY was at the time if not for reincarnation. She was the unfavoured daughter of a general in a different country altogether. Not only did the PM know her but also her circumstances and background.
     
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    I feel like the father can be a rebirth too as he really have the nice timing or he is too knowledgeable about something trivial (that his soon to be wife actually has allergy and use that so she can delay her time to come to mc country).... and that's why he really happy with how grown up the MC is. (another one is how he 'dislike' ML as ML is his archenemy in another life??)

    So, this one lady who is rebirth character too...is she the main antagonist? and is she the one who make the downfall of MC family in the past?? and if in the past life she is the one who married ML... I just confused. I thought she will get married to another country, but there is her inner monologue who said that he is her fated partner or something???
     
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    Thanks for all the wonderful spoilers!!! I didn’t realized this novel is already in my reading list.