Discussion Revenge in xianxia

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MC and Revenge

  1. GOTTA KILL EM ALL, NAO

  2. Revenge is a dish best served cold and with someone else's hand

  3. Mc needs to be an elsa and let it go *cue:piano*

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  1. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    as you all have read, most of xianxia centered around Revenge , be it a long winded, 1260++ chapters avenging angel accomplishment or Villain 1 annoyed MC so MC obliterated them 3chps long

    so what do you think about ~*revenge*~ plot? overused? okay? necessary??

    which one do you prefer, the cold blooded revenge with borrowing someone's knife while u smirk from above/beneath
    or the hot blooded one.where mc just kill kill killlllll screw consequences

    you can use story as an example, make sure to use spoiler to prevent any leakage on innocent passerby

    The revenge plot is necessary, but overused it can be boring and very repetitive, MGA and ATG being the prime.examples

    as for my own revenge
    i prever my revenge cold blooded, planned meticulously beforehand but delivered by my own hand


     
  2. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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  3. Arcturus

    Arcturus Cat, Hidden Sith Lord

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    One of my favorite novels is The Count of Monte Cristo. I hate Yun Che. I think my answer is obvious.
     
  4. archigoel

    archigoel Active Member

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    Revenge is OK for short story arc, but making it central, or even main focus is extremely boring for me. It speaks of a lazy author who cannot innovate a good story line.

    Count of Monte Christo is simply Epic. Revenge is beautifully executed with plan and plots. Not like typical xianxia where OP MC simply kill them all.
     
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    Asf 《《The aria of souls》》

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    Revenge in xianxia is very boring to read. It would be ok if its like assasin creed though.
     
  6. Parth37955

    Parth37955 NU #3, [Dead Inside], Mid-Boss, Dark Dealer Staff Member

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    it's not one continuous revenge plot but rather a bunch of smaller conflicts generated in order to make up for lack or content. Revenge is stupid, unless it if it's totally justified (which in most cases really isn't.)
     
  7. Arcturus

    Arcturus Cat, Hidden Sith Lord

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    I actually know quite a bit about literary revenge, considering I wrote a research paper on the topic in HS. It was titled "Revenge: A Dish Best Served Bleak and Unsatisfying."
     
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    slaughter god overlord of all evil

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    I'm all for revenge but not the boring plot that leads up to it. And most of the time when they do get revenge it sucks because it usually an instant death and not enough torture.
     
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  9. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    did i just read an entire ISSTH plot?? lol (i mean smaller conflicts leading to big one, ergen sure is fond of butterfly effects)
     
  10. Arcturus

    Arcturus Cat, Hidden Sith Lord

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    Btw "The Cask of Amontillado" is probably my favorite short story by Poe. It's fantastic. Though my favorite work of his is "The Bells"
     
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  11. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    you are a terrifying person, my friend, and back then in HS? what Bout u nao?? lol
     
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    Parth37955 NU #3, [Dead Inside], Mid-Boss, Dark Dealer Staff Member

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    well it's different. Er Gen builds everything up in layers, which is why he's amazing. What I was referring to is the mindless violence in some xianxia where enemies are made out of nowhere and usually ends with the MC killing off the entire clan.
     
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  13. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    you didnt let down of your name >_<
     
  14. Alvastar

    Alvastar Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, Xianxia is rather boring when it comes to revenge.

    Side-Character: "You have something I want" / "Your presence displeases me" -- Die!
    MC: "You first!"
    Side-Character's Relations: "You killed Side-Character!" -- Die!
    MC: "You first!"
    Side-Characters Relation's Relations: "You killed Side-Characters Relations Relation!" --Die!
    MC: "Seriously, people?"
     
  15. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    *cough* MGATG *cough*
    *hides from said fans
     
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    Btoken Nice Enough

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    Transcending The Nine Heaven the mc revenge in the 1-30 chapter was perfect :)

    Well Peerless Martal God revenge(s) was bs but i still enjoy it cause i'm a xianxia fan!!!
     
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  17. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    hmm maybe there's a point in obliterating the whole clan ala yunche

    m-maybe
     
  18. Poor_Hero

    Poor_Hero your hope is crushed under the flag of "REALITY"

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    instant kill is a big no-no for me. i think like mc from nidoume yuusha. well, torturing them first or planning from behind are enough for me ⊙﹏⊙
     
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    Arcturus Cat, Hidden Sith Lord

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    Eh, I was in my Poe phase at the time. I read and wrote a lot of stuff in his gothic style. I've mellowed out some.

    Though I still love authors like Poe and Eliot and read a lot of grimdark fantasy so.....
     
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    Alvastar Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. But it's still pointless because now everyone's going to be killing him for his "potential" threat. Which is just a self-fulfilling prophecy in the end because he, as a MC, never initiates conflict first, but now he must. Because he's the MC and he's going to do what MC's do.

    Which is why I would love for someone to translate a crafty Xianxia where the MC does all his killing and provoking through plots using other people or in the shadows where he can walk around without someone dragging him into pointless conflict that only leads to further pointless conflict.
     
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