LCD Reverend Insanity/Daoist Gu

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by Sky Farrow, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. fanwithlight

    fanwithlight Well-Known Member

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    Did you read c1560? After FY completely absorbed Long Hair's true meaning (completely means he got all of Long Hair's comprehension), he only reached Quasi-Supreme Grandmaster level.
    The story only said that Long Hair is in the top 3 in history. Still logical, since there is no one reached Supreme Grandmaster level before.
     
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    Godgrid Well-Known Member

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    Long Hair is a Supreme Grandmaster. It's been established several times before.
     
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    Can you tell me which chapter it's mentioned?
     
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    Godgrid Well-Known Member

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    Chapter 598. It's like a dream realm, like how Fang Yuan couldn't become a supreme grandmaster in thief path by exploring Thieving Heaven Venerable's dream realm
     
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    Checked. The raw said "Great Grandmaster level".
     
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    For what? Thieving Heaven or Long Hair?
     
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    Long Hair.
     
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    Then that contradicts what you said.
     
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    "If he obtained the refinement path true meaning, he was only completely inheriting Long Hair Ancestor’s attainment level, he was not going further from this foundation and surpassing the whole world’s refinement path foundation.

    Fang Yuan did not have any extravagant hope towards supreme grandmaster, as far as he was concerned, this title was just a kind of supreme glory. Quasi-supreme was already enough for him to look down proudly at all refinement path Gu Immortals in the whole five regions. As long as he obtained this true meaning, he would transform from a small dune to the highest peak in one go!"

    Look here. the requirement for Supreme Grandmaster is to surpass the world's peak refinement path and Long Hair is from thousands of years ago.
     
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    Probably all the previous venerables cannot be considered supreme grandmasters as well since the world has advanced all of it's paths
     
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    It is not. Mo Yao is just a low-level Immortal Gu Master, it's possible that she didn't know the true level of Long Hair.
    You don't understand. Surpassing everyone else is not enough to be counted as Supreme Grandmaster. To be a Supreme Grandmaster, one must go beyond the limits of the world and obtain the mysteries and secrets of their path that did not even exist in the current world. It means surpassing the Heaven's Will itself.
     
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    You're right on this point.
     
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    If you search the book, there are numerous instances of Long Hair being called a Supreme Grandmaster

    And that's why I said "the requirement for supreme grandmaster is to surpass the world's peak refinement path and Long Hair is from thousands of years ago." Long Hair was a supreme grandmaster but as time passed, the world itself evolved and refinement path advanced. It's like how there are new gu created and techniques.

    At the time, Long Hair was at the very peak of refinement path and was considered a supreme grandmaster. But now, although it's not enough to be considered a supreme grandmaster, it's still enough to look down on any great grandmaster and that is how Fang Yuan became a quasi-supreme grandmaster.
     
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    Sorry, but she's a rank 7 Gu Immortal with grandmaster refinement path. Also, she was a fairy of the Spirit Affinity House, one of the ten ancient sects in the Central Continent.
     
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    that's not really a major plot hole and can be explained in a lot of ways like, maybe they were getting ready to fight off that venerable by cultivating a venerable of their own? etc...
     
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    Long hair ancestor and two others reached supreme grandmaster in refinement Dao. The two others joined the heavenly court. They have long since died.

    also, comprehension level is more of a resonance with the Dao than anything else. Even if a path has advanced, they still have high resonance and would comprehend it almost immediately
     
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    It maybe a mistranslation. As I remembered, there is no instance like that in the raw.

    You still didn't understand the concept of Supreme Grandmaster.
    Let's say there are 10 Gu recipes that exist in the world. If you learned 9 of them, you're a Quasi-Supreme Grandmaster. If you learned 10 of them and invented the 11th, you're a Supreme Grandmaster.
    If you learned 9 and everyone else learned 8 at most, you're the best in the world, but not a Supreme Grandmaster
     
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    Rank 8 ones see Rank 7 ones as low-level. There is a reason Feng 9 Songs is famous: he's a Rank 7 that's considered equal to Rank 8.
    Yeah, that explanation would make sense if the prophecy isn't made by Star Venerable (leader of HC) and HC isn't a group of people who believe in fate.
     
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    So you're saying that Duke Long knew that Red Lotus was going to become a Demon Venerable and willingly accepted him as a disciple? I bet there's going to be something that explains how it happened.

    I literally said "the requirement for supreme grandmaster is to surpass the world's peak refinement path". How can you not understand this?