Reverse Rape tag on NU

i think you meant men skirt... lol

p/s: in certain SEA regions, men wear kain pelikat, the male equivalent of sarong... just saying...

 

What does Phyta planning with learning 'bout more this tag!?

 

So by your definition, are reverse trap and reverse harem invalid too?

 

Reverse trap? You mean a girl that looks and acts like a boy? I think it's called a tomboyish girl. Or simply tomboy.

On the rape thing, there's no consent involved, rape is always forced sex.

In real life, female raping male happens, erection can be induced against the will of the male, because it's not a conscient thing, you can't choose to have an erection or not. The same way a woman getting wet is not a choice, nor the result of conscient effort.

There are more, males can rape males, and females can rape females. I don't know how the last one works (well, I found a news about an Irish woman conicted of lesbian rape in Australia, she used her finger to sexuallly assault other woman, so there you have it), but I'm pretty sure it's a thing in real life, and I saw the expression "lesbian sexual assault" associated to it (google it if you care).

Going back to NU, this is about novels and fantasy, the rape tag is used when a guy rapes a girl, and one of them is the MC, and reverse rape is when a girl rapes a guy, and one of them is the MC.

I think the "reverse" can be intended as "reversing the roles", as usually rape means a guy raping a girl.

Now, is there any tag for gay rape (male or lesbian)? Is that a thing that deserves a tag in NU? Yuri Rape and Yaoi Rape?

 

If rape between same sex becomes a common enough thing to the point of needing a tag, then it will be considered.

However, it is probably unnecessary, as just GL or BL on the genres is generally enough to show if it is a same gender rape or not.

 

Why do we take such an hard approach on this topic? Just split it in 'rape (male assaulter)' and 'rape (female assaulter)' and be done with it. I understand, that, while the tag 'rape' takes the meaning on itselft rather well, it could be a difference for certain eroctic novels, so a difference in between who the assaulter is, can be a reason (or not) to read it for certain readers.

 

Agree!

 

re·verse
rəˈvərs/
verb
verb: reverse; 3rd person present: reverses; past tense: reversed; past participle: reversed; gerund or present participle: reversing

1. 1.
   move backward.
   "the truck reversed into the back of a bus"
   synonyms: back, back up, drive back/backward, move back/backward
   "the car reversed into a lamppost"
   • cause (a vehicle) to move backward.
     "I got in the car, reversed it and drove it up the driveway"
   • turn (something) the other way around or up or inside out.
     "a reversed S-shape"
     synonyms: turn upside down, turn over, upend, upturn, invert More
     "reverse the bottle in the ice bucket"
     turn inside out, turn outside in
     "I reversed my jacket"
   • make (something) the opposite of what it was.
     "the damage done to the ozone layer may be reversed"
     synonyms: alter, change; More
     overturn, overthrow, disallow, override, overrule, veto, revoke, repeal, rescind, annul, nullify, void, invalidate;
     formalabrogate
     "the umpire reversed the decision"
   • exchange (the position or function) of two people or things.
     "the experimenter and the subject reversed roles and the experiment was repeated"
     synonyms: swap, change, change around, exchange, interchange, switch, switch around
     "reverse your roles"
   • Law
     revoke or annul (a judgment, sentence, or decree made by a lower court or authority).
     "the court reversed his conviction"
   • (of an engine) work in a contrary direction.
     "the ship's engines reversed and cut out altogether"
   • Printing
     make (type or a design) print as white in a block of solid color or a halftone.
     "their press ads had a headline reversed out of the illustration"

adjective
adjective: reverse

1. 1.
   going in or turned toward the direction opposite to that previously stated.
   "the trend appears to be going in the reverse direction"
   synonyms: inverse, reversed, opposite, converse, contrary, counter, antithetical
   "reverse racism"
   • operating, behaving, or ordered in a way contrary or opposite to that which is usual or expected.
     "here are the results in reverse order"
     synonyms: backward, reversed, inverted, transposed
     "in reverse order"
   • Electronics
     (of a voltage applied to a semiconductor junction) in the direction that does not allow significant current to flow.
   • Geology
     denoting a fault or faulting in which a relative downward movement occurred in the strata situated on the underside of the fault plane.

noun
noun: reverse; plural noun: reverses

1. 1.
   a complete change of direction or action.
   "the growth actuates a reverse of photosynthesis"
   • reverse gear on a motor vehicle; the position of a gear lever or selector corresponding to this.
   • the opposite or contrary to that previously stated.
     noun: the reverse
     "he didn't feel homesick—quite the reverse"
     synonyms: opposite, contrary, converse, inverse, obverse, antithesis
     "the reverse is the case"
   • an adverse change of fortune; a setback or defeat.
     "the team suffered its heaviest reverse of the season"
   • American Football
     a play in which the ballcarrier reverses the direction of attack by lateraling or handling the ball to a teammate moving in the opposite direction.
2. 2.
   the opposite side or face to the observer.
   "the address is given on the reverse of this leaflet"
   synonyms: other side, reverse side, back, underside, wrong side, verso
   "the reverse of the page"
   • a left-hand page of an open book, or the back of a loose document.
   • the side of a coin or medal bearing the value or secondary design.
   • the design or inscription on the reverse side of a coin or medal.

Origin

Middle English: from Old French revers, reverse (nouns), reverser (verb), from Latin reversus ‘turned back,’ past participle of revertere, from re- ‘back’ + vertere ‘to turn.’
Translate reverse to
Use over time for: reverse



really this is why sometime I feel people like to debate over meh~
sometime da word itself have pretty clear meaning it just da user who miss use it or misunderstanding on how decipher it~ hmm common mistake over words I guess~
reverse harem~
now reverse rape~
what kind of reverse xxx debate I will see next time?

 

The definition of harem,

The definition of rape,


So yeah. I get the reason for the word reverse harem, even if I don't agree with the concept of harem itself.

 

Premarital sex is rape because you haven't gotten God's consent yet.

 

Everything \o/

 

The guy who get reverse rape must be happy......

 

phyta's planning to commit a crime



wait

*takes out camera*

Go on with your plan now

 

sorry to say but this thread not ask for vote more like debate~

 

Kinda regret I didn't now

 

I agree. You don't have to add or remove any tags with this solution. Just change the tag. "Rape (Female Perpetrator)" is more descriptive and less likely to be misunderstood than "Reverse Rape". "Rape (Male Perpetrator)" also clarifies the purpose of the "Rape" tag. Besides, I thought "Reverse Rape" referred to situations where a character gets poisoned and will die unless someone does the deed with them (especially if it's against the poisoned character's wishes).

Edit:
Considering the wide array of (mis)conceptions relating to the definition of the "Reverse Rape" tag, maybe it could be repurposed for one of the other uses people have mentioned.

Edit 2:
There's also the question of who is being raped. "Rape (Male Perpetrator)" doesn't describe if he's raping a male or female. This might be getting too specific, but it could be "Rape (Male on Male)" and "Rape (Male on Female)". Also "Rape (Female on Male)" and "Rape (Female on Female)".

Edit 3:
Never thought I'd get into a conversation on the nuances of rape in foreign novels. I think we may all go to hell for this.

 

By the way, if what I said up there isn't clear enough, the word "rape" has always meant someone (gender unspecified) forces sex on another person (gender unspecified). Whereas harem has always had the meaning of "a place where muslim dudes (gender specified as male) keep their wives(gender specified as female) in olden times". Which is why I'm sorta questioning about our choice of definition for the reverse rape tag but not reverse harem tag.

By the way, I have no opinion whatsoever on the reverse trap tag because I'm not even sure if I want to dive into that.

I also hate the whole "is it gay if I tap a trap" shit. In my eyes, you are gay as long as you are a male. Deal with it
Fujoshi out.

 

While I agree...there's a tag like reverse harem too. I think the tag isn't at fault here, but what immediately jumps to your mind when you read it. It does its job quite well. Not everything has to be PC.

Personally, both 'rape' and 'reverse rape' would immediately make me click away from that novel, and most guys probably wouldn't mind either (granted the reverse rape is by a hot, busty, forward chick, which it usually is). So, I'm not sure the specification is really needed. But what would you suggest as a short alternative? Maybe the mods would consider it. I really have no stake in this, so anything would work for me.