So Is Porn Good?

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  1. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Feminist*Comedian

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    This type of stuff wouldn’t happen if everyone had the proper mentality: 3D-girls bad 2D-girls good :blobokhand:
     
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    What do you mean by good?

    I mean people consider their religion to be good but millions have been tortured and killed in the name of religion. Water is considered good, but plenty die from it.

    So, by what metric do you want to judge it? Body counts? More people watching porn and not having sex = less dead from AIDS, Hepatitis, etc. and less overcrowding in the world. Some other metric?

    Btw, like joining the military, porn is also done by poor youths who have little prospects. Reduce the poverty of youth and you'd have less people doing porn and less joining the military and boom...something or other(more peace, less love? more love?).
     
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  4. elengee

    elengee Daoist Ninefaps

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    Brb looking at her on pornhub.
     
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  5. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Feminist*Comedian

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    Porn addiction is a good metric. Exploiting porn workers is also a good metric.
    If porn is well taxed and regulated, companies will not be able to just pick someone off the street to do porn.

    You can't pick someone off the street and intimidate them to join the army
     
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    Porn addiction isn't a good metric because addictions can be substitutable, for example many recovering alcoholics transfer their addictions to other addictions. Is a porn addiction worse than a gambling addiction? Is a porn addiction healthier than workaholism? People susceptible to compulsive behavior is the problem.

    Welcome to the amateur revolution that is Onlyfans and other amateur accounts on places like PornHub, join the revolution against the capitalists oppressors that are corporations(serious, not serious, wut?)! There sex workers own their own content.

    Lol, that's how a lot of people got enlisted. Go to jail or to the army because you can't afford a lawyer. And that excludes the whole press gangs and draft.
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Feminist*Comedian

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    I beg to differ.
    Onlyfans is not the same and social security and worker's insurance etc

    You are overestimating the reach of Amateur platforms
    If Patreon was so great people wont be working for Netflix

    The point is worker's rights Bangbros and the likes still hold the lionshare

    Any factory worker could also be self employed, that does not mean factory workers should not have labour unions and other rights

    There are laws about joining the army. The most common I know is people at my college who joined the army so they could get free schooling. At least in the US
     
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    Social security and worker's insurance? I'm not sure what you mean, can't anyone get Social Security as they get old in the US? And what is worker's insurance? Do you mean Health Insurance?

    No where am I arguing against labor unions? Or worker rights. So I'm not sure why you brought that out.

    I'm not overestimating it. Just pointing out the adult entertainment version of the trend over the decades where things like Self-publishing, Independent Film makers, YouTube, Patreon, presented paths to self-employment. They can all be viable incomes.




    As for the army, the draft is still legal in the US. Poor people got drafted, rich people in the US got medical notes. Being intimidated into the military has fallen off since I was a kid, instead they have switched to lying. However that's a recent change, and in many parts of the world it still happens. The difference between the lies of some military recruiters and some porn studio recruiters is less than you might think. Not everyone in either business, but it doesn't take much effort to look up 'lies my recruiter told me'.

    Edit: forgot to summarize the draft part - if you are a US male citizen of draft age, you can be intimidated/forced into military service at any time. The fact that a couple generations went by without it is good but not a precedent.
     
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  9. Wujigege

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    The US no longer has a draft, I can verify that.

    You seem to be missing the point. So I will pose you a question.
    Can you name 10 millionaire authors that have self published from day one?

    You can name those that have traditionally published and been millionaires until you run out of fingers.

    I really do not get the obsession with onlyfans.

    It makes you a business owner.
    90% of businesses fail.
    There is a reason people fight for company jobs.

    Just because anyone can start their own business does not mean businesses should not respect human rights or have exploitative practices.
     
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    https://empireresume.com/what-would-another-draft-be-like/
    https://www.usa.gov/selective-service#:~:text=A draft is the mandatory,been all-volunteer since 1973.&text=The Selective Service System is,responsible for running a draft.
    The laws underlying the draft still exist and can be reactivated in a National Emergency by Congress at any time. The Selective Service is the part responsible for it and IS still active and keeping track of people, the draft is just the final step of it the activation.

    I actually could have named a few dozen from memory a few years ago when I was more into reading self-publishing blogs. I still know a few and actually talked online with a couple in the past.

    And yes, publishing has been around a long time. You can list millionaire's that made money from printed porn magazines and I'm also not sure what that has to do with 2021.

    Again, where did I argue they should?

    Where did I argue for capitalists to exploit the working class?? You seem to be making up arguments I never made.

    As for an obsession with Onlyfans...I mentioned it once briefly, you've now mentioned it twice.


    Edit: Btw, wasn't the topic title "So Is Porn Good?" Did you mean to actually ask "So Is the Porn Industry Good?" because that seems to be your topic now. If that's your question then 'No', and topic complete!
     
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    You are christian, right? Why is it good?

    Well, I'm just a reader, that have read a little about addiction. so far, my conclusion is no, it is not good. The brain chemistry are really messed up with each porn you watched. If so, why would that be good?

    Less evil doesn't make something evil be good even with the existence of greater evil.
     
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    I was shocked to discover that NoFap began on reddit.
    Reddit is such a cesspool that I deleted my account after a month or less.
    I did check one thing out of my bucket list though : interviewing a porn star but that was technically a failure since she was more interested in getting me to buy stuff.
    I guess companies like Asian Boss pay them for the interview so they stay on point



    Mia Khalifa 's comments on how it feels like people can see through or undress her with their eyes was telling.
    It reminded of TransXending Vision where the protagonist has X ray vision superpower.
    I made excuses that I was just reading for the business management aspect and would skip all the Ecchi scenes.
    But it became impossible to make excuses when the protagonist said he is only saving his neighbor from attempted rape because he knows her.
    Implying that he would have let be raped if she was a stranger and he was less than a minute away
     
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    Lmfao gotta agree w u on this one fam
     
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    Well... I don't really use reddit outside of select community, most of them hobby or technical. Smaller community have better chance to be policed more by the admins anyway.

    Say. are you reading too much onto the character's behavior? I haven't read transxending vision except the summary. I assume the ability is like byakugan in Naruto? or is it more like limited in field of view, that the limitation is the character's vision acuity? Logically human have limitation, so more than a minute away, a direct intervention is actually hard. Also, people's sphere of awareness are actually limited. For example, when someone see two people going to be raped, one on his/her left and one on his/her right, with one of them he/she recognize, I don't think people wouldn't subconsciously prioritize their acquaintance first, even if the ending action are to help both in scope.

    I don't like novel that uses sexual content to attract the readers. So, I can only infer from what you said. Besides, the question is just one. Will he save an actual stranger in same situation to the girl? What people thought and said may differ than what they do. It is also a work of fiction.

    On Mia Khalifa, is it something to be worried about? Actions have consequences. She stopped from that. But her past colors her perception. I don't know who she is beside the video you showed. And it's not like I'd recognize her if I meet her on the street (or any other actor/actress/celebrities in this case). I'd argue that it's mostly her perception, colored by her experience in interacting with people that is affecting her. I did a mistake that to this date, still color my reaction when faced with the similar situation. So, I think what she did in the past is something she could only rectify herself and maybe with a psychologist.
     
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    The protagonist of TransXending vision uses his eye powers to strip women naked.
    It is not like looking into their internal organs like Minna Esper Dayo which was hilarious because his friends didn't know he was seeing her lungs lol.

    Given how the novel uses cheap nudity to get views, it is not worth the trouble.
    The protagonist is essentially a Peeping Tom.

    Mia Khalifa certainly needs to speak to a psychologist or therapist.

    From what I learned, especially in places like Japan, many do porn but do not become popular.
    So it is a common mistake.

    Her popularity was not planned or expected
     
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    I think i read Japanese study results about them before where they use Pakistan, India, and Japan as their samples. They made conclusion that accessibility to porn in which both India and Pakistan are hard whereas Japan is easy to get does actually reduce the cases of sexual assaults happen in theory that the porn make it easier to achieve sexual gratification. So if their theory are right then yes porn is good.

    What you meant probably sex industry ? Prostitution ? Not the media ones ?

    Edit.
    Well after actually watching the video it isn't actually the problem that permeated only in porn Industry. No these happen due to societal and to some degree the laws that see people above 16-18 years old are already an adult capable of making decision and take the same risk that the older 30 and above can.

    So this young Mia Khalifa are preyed by Porn industry whereas some kid freshly graduates from high schools are preyed by the military to enlists and waste their time in service where they supposed to make themselves good credentials for better job at such age. It's the same sad story.
     
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    The biggest issue I see now is that unlike the above where you can put some of the responsibility on the victims.
    With things like revenge porn and hidden cams, the victims are blameless but it is impossible to remove the content all the same.
    This was sickening:

    She committed soon after
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goo_Hara#Death,_investigation_and_commemoration

    I wanted to rewatch City Hunter in 2019 since it was amongst my first Korean dramas. It was the Japanese anime that made me watch the Korean drama.
    Given her suicide, I passed on it
     
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    Is porn good?

    Penicillin is good, but does that mean one can take dozens? No..


    Porn was and is intended as visual art of sex. It has just been taken advantage of its sheer popularity by the money sharks.


    Where it should be just about exploring the world of sensual bliss, it's turned into a hog smash of latent fetishes.. From literal toxics like incest to some gnarly BDSM that is just painted rape.


    Its like a street dog now, it could have grown to something better but it is what it is.


    Ps- this damn thing is such a poison that it ruins many kids mental health, not cause it's exposing them to "secret secret stuffs" but it's cause how difficult it is to regulate its use.
     
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    Enligthened one!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    elengee Daoist Ninefaps

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    I remembered her giving head with the garb covering her hair but only her hair.
    "Muslim porn" was the thing they were going for. :blobpeek:
     
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