Discussion [ST Ending] How do you think Qin Shuang becomes a UC?

Cosmos, realm, and planet are different terms.

 

Yes . thats the point being immortal emperor is untalented in deity realm (basicly they are born deitys ) , and his brother was almost Godking which is even top on deity realm. So immortal emperor is really untalented but to mortal realm it's like a GOD (almost literally)

 

Some people have read Desolate Era Raw to the end though. They said Ji Ning never met any GrandMist Controller.

 

I highly doubt Qin Shuang becomes the 4th Creator. Yes he has the potential but there were others with potential as well but not all became Creators. Just take Qin Yu's blacksmithing predecessor for example. He could have become one but he focused on the wrong thing.

 

It's neither SS or DE.
but they don't say that he must become the forth Meng..
and hey,i think in CD they said that there can be 6 primal controlers,and now in ST there are max 4?

 

They said 1st class controllers are few, and there is more room below as 2nd class controllers. But while 1st class can make a whole cosmos, the 2nd class can only make secondary cosmoi.

 

4 Great GrandMist controller. There will be more grandmist controller but their cosmos will be smaller than the Great 4. Since a grandmist controller's strength is linked to the size of the cosmos they control.

 

and Desolate era, Nine cauldrons?

 

yeah ,Great GrandMist. I know their strength is linked with the cosmos size,but in ST they say there can be 4 Great GM,but i thought that in CD Meng said 6..or maybe i dont remember lol

 

Desolate era i read and its not it .

IET at the end of CD (afterwards) said that he wanted to make Stellar Transformation + Coiling Dragon dualogy, meaning that at least at that time he wasn't planning to continue

 

No he's got it right, even though we don't know Shuang exact level, he should be close to Deity, while his talented bro is a high level Heavenly Deity

 

You guys realize that there doesn't have to be a story to shuang's life. There's no story that tells what Harry Potter's son does in life (at least not really). Stories end when they end and, many times, the only remaining plot is that which goes on in our imagination.

 

there's a book coming out about that and the movie is already in the works. Didn't you hear about the black Hermione scandal like a week ago.

 

How come linley's son is a monkey while he is a dragon bloodline .

 

Did you even read my post?

 

yes, the first part is negligible for the sake of the argument. the idea that he studies genetics I somewhat get where you are going with this, the part with cracking the key to teleporting again is okay barely though no relation to genetics as its all about comprehension towards the spacial laws.
your last part is how he uses the wine to study and find out how to use a serum to gain a genetic serum to gain a grandmist body. which is wrong as to gain a grandmist body you need access to grandmist energy but it has to be your own grandmist energy. my example here in lin meng and qin meng. they both gained access to the grandmist energy with their strength and way. also, wasn't the wine gained from a bunch of places in hong mengs cosmos? how would that have enough grandmist energy to use to create the grandmist energy. they both gained a grandmist body as a kind of reward for reaching the peak and able to create a universe. its mentioned the wine is useless to someone of their level but to the people at exalted celestial level and below it is something incredibly useful. so it has no real grandmist energy that could be used and at most would either strengthen the body or massively increase their comprehension of the spacial laws.
hence, no he couldn't gain a grandmist body through the wine.

 

He doesn't gain it through the wine - he uses genetics to form a grandmist body, but the serum hasn't been completed until he finds the wine which has been in the grandmist space - and hasn't shattered meaning that there is some element to it that can withstand that pressure so he studies it and finds a unique composition element that he uses to change the makeup of his cells. That way, he obtains his own grandmist body.

Plus, you don't have to create a cosmos to become a grandmist controller - just a body strong enough to withstand the pressure of the space

 

the wine was in the mortal world and more specifically earth hong meng sprinkled it around to bump up the chances that to maybe become a grandmist controller as their fates couldn't be determined so they passed the first hurdle. lets just completely ignore genetics but think of it like that its the grandmist energy that changes the genome not the reverse. you have to tap into grandmist energy and will temper the body and to even the grandmist space you need the body just to be able withstand the pressure. so to enter is impossible without first having the body. which means he cant find it there even if was there which it isnt it was used on earth itself as mentioned previously
while you don't have to create a cosmos to become a grandmist controller its a building block for a universe so its kind of implied the usage of the energy so yes you dont have to create a cosmos its just all grandmist controllers ended up making one so i will give you that point

 

Fam. All you need is to survive in the grandmist space. That's it. Then you become bestowed with the knowledge to make a space. Qin Yu made a space beforehand which is why Linley sang his praises.

No matter what, the wine was in the grandmist space and didn't shatter. We don't know what HongMeng put into the wine but being "beneficial" means that it must have been something primordial. I'm saying that Qin Shuang uses the wine and the energy inside to finish his serum which makes his body amazingly strong - on par with a grandmist body - to withstand the pressure.

You don't need a "grandmist body" evident by Qin Yu's dark and yellow body being able to withstand the pressure.

 

hong meng just lived in the grandmist space and then after a flash of insight made a cosmos and the 4 secondary ones, lin meng just broke the barrier to the cosmos and then hong meng gave him the knowledge on how to create a cosmos, its why lin meng is jelous of qin meng as he made a cosmos under his own power. so surviving in the grandmist space doesn't automatically give you knowledge, it did for hong meng but his was more a epiphany in training then the knowledge naturally coming to him.

here im going to quote the passages on the wine

so the only real energy in it is from hong mengs cosoms so at most it would have the same amount of grandmist energy in a first rate hong meng treasure and not enough to form a grandmist body.

for this im going to quote coiling dragon

what the Xuanhuang energy is im guessing is the yellow and black energy just translated differently, the yellow and black energy he took half of it after forming his cosmos and fused it into him basically skipping the grandmist body that lin meng had and going straight to the Inextinguishable Xuanhuang Body so the grandmist body could be formed in some other way other way than forming a cosmos like lin meng when he fused the 4 powers which then became the grandmist energy which gave him the body. this passage does show how a grandmist body is formed completley out of grandmist energy so i will give you it may be possible to change the genetic code to better accept grandmist energy