Star Trek: Picard

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  1. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Have you watched it? In case you haven't heard, there's a new Star Trek serial by CBS. It features Picard, who's now old, much older than you'd remember from Star Trek The Next Generation. The story is about a girl who is chased by Romulan Tal Shiar assassins and sought help from Picard who's now a grumpy old man who's disgruntled about how Starfleet betrayed him. The girl died, but this led Picard to get off from his self-imposed exile in order to find and protect her twin sister, who's also in danger from the Tal Shiar.

    Which we later find that it wasn't really the Tal Shiar that wanted the girls dead, but a precursor of the Tal Shiar that was more secretive with more awesome toys.

    This is not part of the Kelvin timeline. So those of you who were pissed of the Kelvin timeline, you can breathe a sigh of relief.

    Oh, let's not forget that in this series, the Romulans as a faction is gone. Their home system went supernova for some reason and whoever still alive became like refugees and fugitives in their old space, the neutral zone and Federation space. Picard led a campaign to evacuate the Romulans from their homeworld, but Starfleet decided to cut them loose. But two of the former Tal Shiar operatives decided to become Picard's housekeepers. Don't know why they didn't just move to another planet and set up a new senate there.

    Ai-chan likes how this series feel more alive and real than the TNG TV series. The characters had no problem talking smack about Picard and his ego. Instead of Gene Roddenberry's 'humans are better than this' ideals, this series is more realistic. And it fits this generation. You don't get Picard trying to shove his ideals down your throat after solving a crisis. It feels like your venerable grandpa is helping you understand reality and how to cope with things using an interesting story.

    What Ai-chan doesn't like is how dark everything is. It's like the old formula of positivity from TNG is gone. It's all dark, brooding and depressing now. The Romulans as a foe are gone. The Borg was annihilated. The Klingon was nowhere to be seen. Data is gone, due to the synthetic ban when androids destroyed Mars and the Utopia Planitia shipyards. And now we have a new wildcard, the synthetics. And now we found out that Starfleet's communism doesn't work. It's exciting, but it's so dark.

    If you like previous Star Trek series, you'd probably be interested to know that:
    1) Picard is the protagonist
    2) Seven of Nine returns, and become a Borg queen briefly
    3) Lots of people saying fuck without filter
    4) When they got booze, they really got hammered
    5) Jonathan Frakes directed one of the episodes
    6) Ryker and Deanna Troy are old now
    7) Ichef died horribly

    Wait, what happened to Geordi? Or Worf? WTF happened to Beverly Crusher?!!!
     
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  2. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    I only watched a few episodes of the original Star Trek with Kirk, but this looks pretty interesting!
     
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  3. chucke

    chucke Going towards the glorious future

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    More like if your Star Trek journey ended with TNG or DS9

    Generic sci-fi, part of series that were consistently destroying Star Trek universe.
    And the most ironic thing is that everybody from the old crew - Troi, Riker, Data - retained the characters on a good level, except for Picard.
    P.S. Mass Effect: Picard
     
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  4. chucke

    chucke Going towards the glorious future

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    Well, you like that it is alive and real...So that's the real world. No, seriously ST these days is your regular sci-fi where the modern issues are shoved into your throats from the screen. And that is what is sad about it.

    Star Trek has always been about the vision of the greater future where the modern problems were considered the issues of the past. But after GR (in 1991 or something) death, it was continuously becoming darker and darker turning into an average sci-fi that is trying to project the modern reality into a movie, thus destroying the dream, which what Star Trek had always been about (until 90s). So Star Trek has not been like this since 90s ROFL.

    In fact, a lot of people brought into Star Trek by the dreams from the past - nobody remembers anything else except TOS and TNG (sometimes DS9). They hear the fantasy stories from the past but what they see is the modern average sci-fi and can't understand why people love Star Trek:blobsob: It is really really sad.

    STP is built on a stupid premise, in a stupid world with stupid characters. And only Troi, Riker and Data were able to retain their own characters - even Picard is not Picard anymore. (We have 0 charismatic characters. Like literally 0 charisma)

    The dream is dead, welcome to the real world.

    P.S. Though I remember, it was mentioned that TNG was not that liked by TOS fans in the past too. Personally I am TNG person, that did not watch the movies. One of those pure ones lol
     
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    Nightow1 Well-Known Member

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    As a TOS series fan (hell, I even have *present tense* the complete collection of the Star Trek logs), I can agree with what chucke is saying, that Star Trek was supposed to be a dream of a better future where social problems were things of the past. Even part of TNG was like this until there was a gradual shift to make it more "real" and the "sci-fi" exploration series became more war-like. Even TNG initially had the Galaxy class which was somewhat a long range exploration ship with civilians and scientists and a battle section/civilian section separation, but after the NCC-1701D got roasted, the newer ships are all warships out to "Go where man has gone before... and roast their enemies". Things like the Sovereign-class and Defiant-class are almost all pure warship.

    It was a nice dream. While it lasted.