Spoiler The Founder of Diabolism

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  1. Sauling

    Sauling Wangxian[忘羨] is my Precious OTP ( ˘ ³˘)♥

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    Ayeeeee, all this. I can feel their pain too, despite I'm not a fan on Jiang Cheng, but I don't hate him. He deserves to be happy, and I think it's the fact that he can finally let go of his hatred for Wei Ying and Wen Ning (I like to believe that he finally let go of his hatred for Wen Ning) that allows him to get that character development to be a happier and better person. I want to see Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying being like brothers again. I am going to head-canon that's what happened in the end, and *cough* JC and LXC*cough* crack ship will give me all these moments to see Wei Ying teasing Jiang Cheng about his and LXC relationship.

    But what I'm truly sad is LXC ending in canon.... Him going into seclusion is too much for my heart :cry::cry:

    I'm Aquarius :LOL:
     
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  2. Fiorisi

    Fiorisi My Ghost General ♡ (Lady Wen) ♡

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    I can't jump in this discussion since I'm utterly biased against Xue Yang though in regards to this part wouldn't Song Lan be at 'fault' then? Because if A'Qing hadn't met up with Song Lan she wouldn't have known about Xue Yang's true identity and wouldn't have felt the need to urgently tell XingChen about it. She would have just kept quiet while cautiously observing Xue Yang instead like she had been doing for the years they were living together.

    In no way am I blaming Song Lan the precious baby was never ever 10000x ever not at fault for anything :blobsob:
     
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    Mnemosyne Well-Known Member

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    I'm Aquarius too :blob_sunglasses::blobhighfive:
     
  4. kiara8

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    Mnemosyne Well-Known Member

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    And I still don't understand why my element is air:blobjoy: Shouldn't it be water? :hmm:
     
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    Rufi-sidd When the wolves come out to play!

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    Thank you @Fiorisi!!! Love you! What would we do without your gdc directory :love:

    Lol that must be traumatic for lan xichen cause he thought Wei ying had his future nephew in his tummy....

    Yup same here especially the yi city arc will require pints of ice cream too~ lol
    My zodiac sign is Leo btw.......

    *screams in delight* thankyou!!! @Lina Lina so much!!!
     
  7. Sauling

    Sauling Wangxian[忘羨] is my Precious OTP ( ˘ ³˘)♥

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    When I said A-Qing plays a part in this I didn't lay this out to blame her, sorry if it causes confusion, anyways I won't go into saying what I already said in my previous post, but to answer your question, no, I never blamed Song Lan for coming into the picture which set the stage for A-Qing to see this whole thing, all I'm saying in the end and was trying to say is at the end of the day it isn't just Xue Yang that caused Xiao Xingchen's death, each character have a role in this which leads to the tragedy that happened in the end, the whole "what if's" here yet again.

    For Xue Yang, I firmly believe he didn't want Xiao Xingchen dead because he didn't want to destroy that kind of family he have(for all said), but that tragedy that took place and happened then you can say it's because of fate. Not that I support it though because I didn't like the tragedy that happened....So much could be avoided if things are done differently and that's how I feel.
     
  8. Rufi-sidd

    Rufi-sidd When the wolves come out to play!

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    Lol both remind me of my eldest nephew the cool and chill boss boy of our fam love him to bits
     
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  9. Sauling

    Sauling Wangxian[忘羨] is my Precious OTP ( ˘ ³˘)♥

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    Welcome fellow Aquarius friend :aww: let's get along in here :blobhighfive::cookie:
     
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    Yep, a number of people and events led to the Yi City tragedy happening at the time and place it did. Even so, the real thing that ruined Xue Yang's happiness was Xue Yang himself because he had done things which meant that the moment his true identity was discovered by Xiao Xingchen, everything would be over. (And then when Xiao Xingchen did find out, Xue Yang misjudged things by telling Xiao Xingchen all about the murdered townspeople and Song Lan, not realising that this would drive him to suicide...)

    If his identity being revealed hadn't happened at the time it did, it would probably have happened later. Another cultivator might have passed by and recognised him, or what if Xiao Xingchen were to touch his hand some day and find out about his missing finger? Xue Yang would have been out of luck. I know he wore a glove and XXC was blind, but the situation was precarious and the risk he was taking was really amazing.

    I have to wonder how Xue Yang justified those years with Xiao Xingchen and A-Qing. I guess he could have explained it at first by needing to recover his health (which was true, at first), and then by thinking of it was a long plan to torment Xiao Xingchen. By the time he had begun to care about Xiao Xingchen he was already out of luck, since Xiao Xingchen would never be willing to give him a second chance if he knew who he really was.

    I would never have expected to like an arc mostly focused on characters who didn't appear much elsewhere so much. I think the author did a great job of it. It's only natural that Wei Wuxian would empathise strongly with Xiao Xingchen's ultimately futile good intentions, especially with the parallel between Wei Wuxian's sacrifice of his core for Jiang Cheng's sake and Xiao Xingchen's sacrifice of his eyes for Song Lan. Xue Yang fits nicely into the themes of the story, too, as another person who might have turned out all right if he'd been treated better before it was too late (like Jin Guangyao). Song Lan makes me think of Jiang Cheng to a degree, with the sacrifice parallel and the split between friends, but he also reminds me of Lan Wangji in how he was strong enough to continue on.
     
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    salbireo Madam Lan - Lan Qiren's Wife

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  12. Sauling

    Sauling Wangxian[忘羨] is my Precious OTP ( ˘ ³˘)♥

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    I can't emphasize this anymore than you since you put this in better perspective then I do.

    You do have a point that it would probably happen eventually although I would prefer to hope it didn't because I don't want to support such tragedy that happened (in my mind and crack, this never happened)

    I do think it's because Xiao Xingchen not being able to give Xue Yang that second chance is what makes it all hopeless in the end. For me though, I think people deserves second chances if they are willing to change, and I felt like in those times that Xue Yang was living with Xiao Xingchen and A-Qing he was changing, but in the end fate ended up playing with him / them.

    Ironically despite I didn't support the tragedy that happened in that arc but I do agree that the author did a good job with the back story and how she writes her characters, which makes that arc interesting.
     
  13. Fiorisi

    Fiorisi My Ghost General ♡ (Lady Wen) ♡

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    At least Xue Yang got a brief taste of a peaceful life being surrounded by good people. Just as JGY had tiny peaceful moments in his life, but in the end, both had to pay the price for their actions. Now that I think about it...the same goes for Wei too when he lived as the YiLing Patriarch. Maaann I wish there was another arc in the story now (T^T) Like with Yi city arc it's so fun to analyse them Author-sama's writing skills is like an immortals (☆ω☆)
     
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    Sandu Well-Known Member

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    Before I read spoilers for the ending of the series, I was so worried that it might have a sad ending! I thought it might be working up to Wei Wuxian dying again and then Lan Wangji retiring and becoming a monk the way the founder of the Lan sect did. I thought that maybe the Lan sect history we were told in chapter 18 was foreshadowing for that.

    As for zodiac signs, I'm a Leo. :sushi_peak:
     
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    Rufi-sidd When the wolves come out to play!

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    a fellow Leo greetings camaraderie~
     
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    No Problem you're welcome :blobsmilehappy::blob_grin:
     
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    Nyan sempai Chasing Wifi d best boi & neko

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    Lan Wangji was just a regular teenager. Even though he was quiet and rule abiding even though he seemed innocent and irritable by something otherwise....( He is just like me *cough*)

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    PS: can someone say what's there being said in the speech bubble?
     
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