Spoiler The Tragedy of a Villainess 합법적 악역의 사정

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  1. talexus93

    talexus93 Well-Known Member

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    I would probably like that more too honestly lol. Right now, all we have is a truly idiot male that does not see any fault in himself but likes to senselessly accuse the MC for no reason or evidence at all. Just a full blown simp for another female character. So far, it’s making his character a bit one dimensional.
     
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    Wow, Callis is another stupidshoe buddy's. I hope Callis has a extremely bad ending.

    Could anyone spoil cute moment of MC&ML in detail? Pretty please....
     
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    Does the new chapters have any cute moments about the MC and ML? Sorry, I just can't figure out how to read it on ridibooks :'(
    Also, in the events leading up to the idiot fiancé to marry the oriFL, did he not think about the shame that he subjected MC to? I mean, did he, at the very least have any second thoughts in marrying oriFL?
    He could have killed the MC because of his foolish decision and yet he just willingly gets married? What a damn bastard.
    I guess this is his way of getting even at her for poisoning him and almost getting him killed.
    I agree with the MC. They should never meet again. Live happy with your new wife, ex-fiancé
     
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  4. NohrNeir

    NohrNeir rereading frenzy

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    Sorry I've been too busy to catch up on the newer chapters. As for how to read on ridibooks, you can use chrome browser and it'll auto mtl the chapters you unlock. You can unlock one chapter each day for free as long as they're not the last 10 chapters. It's quite easy to read this one since it's not smut so don't need verification but you would still need an account which is very simple process. If you wish to know how to do this, feel free to PM me.

    While I don't like the 2nd ML and don't want to give him any excuses since it was his fault for even leaving with oriFL, he didn't choose to marry oriFL. I believe she did the ritual herself to save him. Remember, he was also dying so it wasn't just a one sided issue because both MC and 2nd ML were subjected to death if they don't complete the ritual. He doesn't even want to marry oriFL. The minute he returned back to the manor, he requested a divorce right away. The thing is, stern marriages take a year for marriages to be annulled so that's why they're still married on both sides.
     
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    We are translating this novel at our website rainofsnow . com ( delete the space)
     
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    Lina ran off behind the barracks but then when she was alone she heard voices that seemed to have the same energy as Seria's necklace telling her there's not enough power and telling Lina to get the necklace (I think for more power) so Lina now really wants the necklace. Its dark aura is drawing her for some reason to steal Seria's necklace for more power. When Lina woke up from her state Seria was next to her asking what that was. It was in the middle of a blizzard but Lina then stepped back and ran away from the barracks.

    Lesche was at the barracks being informed to go rescue the Saintess since she ran off alone. He got upset over it. Seria agreed to help them find her since she might get taken by the demon. The other priests were worried since they're not sure what would happen if a saintess gets drawn by the demon. They all split into 3 groups to find her. The high priest had already tried to follow Lina alone earlier when she ran off in horseback. He managed to catch Lina and reprimanded her. The knights also caught up and they encountered a demon.

    Seria was able to discern that the demon that Lina was in contact with was similar to the feeling of those mold from the green manor. Also it seemed in the novel Lina never "purified" the mold, but absorbed the darkness.

    It killed the high priest in front of Lina. She wasn't able to do anything since she was too scared and just screaming. The knights around her tried to kill it but many were getting killed. Lesche came and tried to rescue Lina but she then Lina disappeared. (This was what happened earlier when she returned back to her own world so it's happening again) This time from the og novel, it was said she'll reappear after a year. But there's a lot of differences from the og novel. They had returned back to the overturned barracks without being able to rescue Lina. Lesche had to inform the priests what had happened. In the og novel Lesche fell in love with Lina from the guilt of not being able to rescue her at that time so Seria wonder if it's going to follow the novel plot now. While she was deep in thought, Lesche then grabbed her wrist and she got confused and he told her he noticed her looking around at people and leaving. She asked how he even saw her when he was talking to the priests but he doesn't think that's even a big deal. He was talking about how her eyebrows seem to show she's upset about something but she's not sure what he meant. She decided to just straight up asked if he's feeling guilty. He started looking around and asked if she was asking him since he saw no one else. She asked him who else she would've asked and he told her he thought she was asking someone else since it's such a ridiculous question since he have no reason to feel guilt over towards the saint. Besides Lina ran off on her own in the first place so he blamed her.

    Lesche had more things to deal with so Seria was sitting on her own holding a cup of snake-strawberry alcohol that she couldn't rink since she's allergic to strawberries. Callis came and handed over his canteen to her and took her cup since he knew she's allergic to snake-strawberry. He left before she tried to return it to him. She wasn't sure what to do with the cup since it was clearly engraved with Callis's House's emblem so people will know she has a cup from Callis and it might cause a scandal. A knight came to pick her up and saw the canteen and she told him she was allergic to strawberry so that's why she has the canteen. The knight said Berg duke won't be happy to hear that though. She's not sure why and besides everyone is so focused on the missing saint even though she herself isn't worry since she knows Lina will return.

    The priests came to take Seria since the saint is gone they're using Seria as backup now. Callis doesn't like that and asked if he can be escort and they told him they'll rather not based on their past relationship. Lesche threw the canteen back at Callis telling and told them his wife is too busy to help them and he will do the job instead. The priest was surprised since Lesche was an arrogant man even though he does have divine powers, he wouldn't just go help them. Lesche recalled when he told some people nearby to hand Seria a drink but Seria then told him she can't drink them since she's allergic to it. Lesche didn't seem happy since Callis knows a lot more about Seria given their past history, but he warned Callis to stop trying to go for his wife when Callis's wife is the saint not Seria. Callis responded that they're only married due to unfortunate circumstances similar to how Lesche and Seria got married, to which Lesche countered that it's different since he didn't run off with a different woman before his marriage with the stern. They both clashed and Callis drew out his sword, requesting for a duel. Lesche agreed and also drew out his sword. Another high priest came and tried to stop them but then Callis told the priest to be witness for the duel. The priest said he's too lowly to be witnes so he will bring Seria as witness and Lesche told him to bring another noble.

    The priest told him there's no other higher noble than the Stern but Lesche don't want to show her his violent self so they both agreed to postpone the duel to another time and sheathe back their swords. When an aide came to Lesche he told them to pull out all the snake-strawberry vines from the garden of their manor. He also told the aide to ask Seria for permission before proceeding with it. Callis hearing it got upset with Lesche mentioning her name. He can also see in Lesche's eyes that he have feelings with Seria as well since he himself was also a man who loved Seria the most.

    Seria returned back to the manor seeing the garden in such a bad state. Her maid thinks someone might've robbed them while the owners were away but Seria doesn't think so since they're Bergs. The inside of the manor still remained in good state. The gardener told her that it's because he had only planted one thing since there wasn't much focus on it before. All the plants had to be pulled out since they were "damaged by fertilizer". Now she can be in charge of how she wanted the design to be. Seria doesn't know how to design gardens so they called a merchant to help her. Seria and the merchant were discussing on garden design. The merchant was trying to go all elaborate to get money and knowing Seria's history of spending and extravagance he thought he would be able to convince her but Seria thinks it's too much since it's not even her own money. It's the Duke's. Seria wonder how the Duke will feel when he returns home to an empty garden.

    Lesche returned earlier than she expected and they talked about the garden since he was also surprised it was empty. She asked him what sort of plants he would like in the garden and asked him wen he have time to discuss the design. He was surprise since he thought she would just design it on her own. He laughed at her response when she told him it'll be a garden they'll both be seeing anyway and as he raised his hand, she slipped when she shifted her gaze towards it, and he then caught her. She can feel his hot wrist and asked if he has a fever. He checked his own forehead unsure, but he doesn't think he's sick. A servant came asking for Lesche there's a slight setback on the miltary supply so Lesche then have to leave. Now Seria wonder how Lesche might have a fever and still have to work hard. She's not sure if she can even question his condition to the servants since they only tell her he's not as weak as Seria.

    That night Seria decided she will talk to Lesche at dawn about the garden plans so she wanted to leave the layouts in his room for now instead. She went to his room to leave them and the servant told her that Lesche is already asleep. When she left the plans on the table she can see him asleep already and it seemed he was sick so she called in a servant to bring some medicine for her and as she tried to nurse him, he woke up and grabbed her hand. She got embarrassed and called out his name. He then opened his eyes and she can sense some heat in them. He blinked slowly without saying anything and she told him she got him medicine. Lesche told her to leave them there but she can feel from his hand that he has high fever. She made him take the medicine and thought to herself that even though she's married to him as a slave, it seemed the real slave is him since he still has to work so hard when sick.

    Lesche wanted to discuss the garden design now even though she said there's no rush for it. It'll be set up in the spring anyway and the divorce is going to be next winter. They were talking about her family since she's not close with them but still it would be nice to get their approval for their marriage since Callis was able to get the approval of the father. Lesche wondered if he may have to go to war against them. She thinks he's joking about it, but she told him if he really wanted the approval she can get it and he asked her if she's telling him to let his wife beg. She told him it's not begging, just "slight" persuasion, though nothing is "slight" with Seria. So he told her he doesn't need it. She asked why he send someone to her family then if he wasn't concerned about it and he said because of that "kid", he sent it as a procedure.

    Seria told him that she usually finds his eyes scary and he asked her what about now and she looked at him and couldn't answer. He swept her hair behind her ear and told her to go. They said good night to each other and when she left the room, she touched her ear feeling the fleeting heat.

    The next morning Lesche woke up early, already cured. It seemed he vaguely remember what happened the night prior and immediately saw the garden design as well.

    Someone asked Seria if she had ever been to the frozen Lake and she wondered if it's the glacier. The vassal then remembered she only go for inspections and told her its a place where newlyweds usually visit. Lesche told the maid to cancel all the plans for Seria the next day so they can go on the outing.

    It was the first time Seria wears a dress to see the glacier since she usually have on her riding suit for inspection. He had made her put on an extra coat since he think she's dressed too lightly. When they arrived, he picked her up, helping her out of the carriage saying the handle is frozen. She told him to put her down since she felt like a pack being carried around and he laughed at her comment. A servant handed Seria a cup of her favorite tea and Seria told Lesche she thinks the servant likes her more than him and he found it outrageous she even said that since no one in the mansion is more important than her. She asked doesn't he feel unfair since she pushed him off his position of importance and he just comment he's unsure what she even thinks of him. She

    Usually Seria would try to return back to her room after having dinner with him, but one day he asked her if they should take a walk at the garden. She felt weird since it's an empty garden and he said they can discuss about the design even though the whole time he just agrees with whatever she choose to plant. Then she'll wonder why he even ask to take a walk in the first place then.

    On nights when it's really cold, she would sleep in his room since she doesn't want to manage all the rooms and just prefer to take care of the few rooms to warm up only one room. But this time she's more nervous than back then when she slept with him. She was scooting away and he told her to come closer or she would fall. He said he won't touch her and she asked who even think of that and he asked if he can touch then and laughed. They went to sleep after that.

    Lesche also decided they will return to the green manor every weekend since Seria likes it there. She suggested it since she wanted Lesche to rest more since he's always working.
     
  8. ArguingApples

    ArguingApples Well-Known Member

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    thank you so much for these!!
    So if the oriFL is going to disappear for a year, by the time she comes back, it'll already be the time for them to file for divorce. I wonder what kind of misfortune she's going to bring again?
    Did the ex-fiancé show any sign of realizing that he doesn't have a chance with the MC anymore? He's going to be soooo obsessed, I can just feel it
     
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    So, I’m getting the idea that the two antagonists are what happens when a victim complex and a hero complex meet.
    Lina- constantly crying woe is me and rather than accepting any responsibility or reflecting on her actions just believes people are being mean to her for no good reason. Wants to be saved rather than putting in effort herself.
    Callis- needs to think of himself as a hero and almost compulsively must valiantly jump in and save someone weaker. Can’t accept that his actions might have been unwarranted or wrong because they were for “good” reasons. Overinflated sense of his own righteousness.

    It seems like they bring out the worst traits in one another and could very well form some kind of codependency situation. Only thing throwing a wrench in things is their growing obsessions with the leads. Lina is just selfish and thinks she deserves the highest position for all she’s suffered. With Callis, I think it’s pretty hard to consider yourself the hero when you almost killed your dear fiancé, who you professed love to, out of sure negligence and stupidity.

    Can someone explain a little more clearly about the whole ‘wedding rites that kill you if you don’t complete it’ thing? I get that the MC and Callis (or maybe just Callis) had started the process in the days leading up to the ceremony. And I can wrap my head around it somehow being necessary for the woman’s powers to not go wonky (Lina’s outright injuring people because she can’t get a reign on hers after all). But I guess it just doesn’t make sense that people who hadn’t gone through the preliminary steps could just substitute in last second. Or did the ML just speed run the beginning of the process while MC was unconscious? And how did Lina know about the whole thing when MC didn’t, and she’s practically flunking out of her studies?

    Also, any drama about the ML marrying without the king’s permission? Or is it excused because of the extenuating circumstances?
     
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    So who's the ml? The white haired dude or the deepshit fucker brown haired dude?? I hope it's the white haired one
     
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    The ml is the white haired guy
     
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    Ey thankssss
     
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    I was planning to buy the book on ridibooks and translating it. But I'm really scared of tragedy tags. Also Lina and callis are annoying as hell.
     
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    NohrNeir rereading frenzy

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    It's not tragedy though. Not sure why someone translate that as the title either cause the title is 합법적 (legitimate) 악역의 (villain's) 사정 (circumstance, situation).

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    Seria was trying to figure out out Lina since in the og novel she was described as a really powerful saint so it shouldn't be a surprise if she was able to clear the manor of the dark mold. She was having deep thoughts in the carriage. They were travelling to visit Marquis Kellydon. Someone then broke her away from her thoughts to inform her they'll be there in 15min so they'll start putting up the Duke's flag. The carriage didn't have any fancy engravings to avoid getting attacked (it does have the duke's emblem though) so they have to put up the flag to inform the Marquis who they are. It's been a year since she became Seria and she still haven't gotten used to it yet.

    Seria's brother, Nisos, was informed of her visit early on and wasn't happy about it. He didn't think she would ever come. When she finally arrived at the front gates, no one welcomed or greeted her even though she's a duchess now. They didn't even lower the drawbridge fully to allow her to enter. The guard in the front tried to dissuade her from entering the main drawbridge and to use the side ones, where the left smaller one is used for servants and the right smaller for family daily usage. The main drawbridge is for when main family return after long away or important figures. Since she's a Berg now, they should've lowered the main drawbridge for her. She wouldn't let them dissuade her because of her pride. The guard told her to use the right one, but they eventually lower the main drawbridge since she wouldn't budge.

    The butler didn't treat her properly either upon entering. Cassius, the eldest Kellydon son, showed up and tried to reprimand her. She talked back saying since she's a Berg now, she should be treated as one. They told her to use the quest room, but she was insistent she can use her own bedroom. They haven't cleaned it though so she was upset. They claimed they didn't know of her visit so they couldn't clean it beforehand. Seria told them to get it clean then. When she went to check her room, she noticed it was really dusty, and not only that, they had sold all her valuables in her room. It was left vacant with barely anything. She then asked Cassius why her room got robbed and Cassius then made some excuse that there must be thieves in the Kellydon that must be punished.

    When she left the room to let the servants clean the room, she told Cassius she expect her things not to be stolen by the time she gets back, even though she didn't bring much luggage, since she planned to return after the funeral. Cassius got insulted.

    During the funeral, people pretended to be close to her because of her duchess title. Seria also met Cassius's fiancee, Olivia (Count Mesla's daughter). She then remember how her brothers who have fiancees were still entranced by Lina in the og novel and felt disgusted by it. Cassius neglected his fiancee and Olivia would start harassing Lina in the background. Olivia was a supporting villainess. Even so, Seria wasn't close with Olivia nor did she liked her. Olivia was making a comment about the drawbridge incident she overheard and told her something about the seating arrangements for the dining. Seria wasn't pleased with how she's not allow to seat with the family nor a good table with other high nobility, so she called a butler to clear out all the utensils except her hers and Olivia's.

    Cassius and Nisos overheard the commotion and came. Seria told them she's being treated as a maid being forced to leave after eating alone. Cassius told the butler to leave the the things alone. Nisos and Seria argued. Nisos asked why she had changed and Seria tried to play it off that she didn't change but it's just that he never knew what she was like since he was never interested. She was upset that she was invited as a guest by her father for the funeral but none of them even treated her with courtesy.

    The marchioness showed up and was being sarcastic with Seria, but Seria couldn't hate her since she can understand where she's coming from. In fact, the actual bad person here is the Marquis since he cheated on his wife and had an illegitimate child with the other woman.

    Everyone seem to think Seria and Lesche have a bad relationship and will divorce. Seria personally think her relationship is fine with Lesche since he does treat her with courtesy along with the fact she's the benefactor of green manor for helping lift the spell. The Marquis said the main drawbridge wasn't lowered for Seria since her marriage with Lesche wasn't fully verified yet. They havent been authorized yet under imperial sanctions. Seria told him that she didn't come as a member of the Kellydon family, but Berg's family since her carriage has the Berg emblem and flag so they should've known to lower the main drawbridge to avoid being antagonized between the two family.

    Apparently her father invited her back home because he wanted to see how his daughter was doing. He overheard some rumors that she almost died during her wedding from her divine power. Nisos tried to poke fun at that saying that was probably fake rumors. Seria said her wedding was an embarrassment since she was dying and no one from her family even attended and they can ask the Berg knight commander to find out the truth since he wouldn't lie.

    Seria left right after she finished eating to go check on her bedroom. She noticed they filled up her room with random things that were cheap to cover up the loss of what was 'stolen'. Someone knocked on the door and Cassius showed up saying Olivia wanted to apologize to her.
     
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    Man, this had the whole package.
    An idiot fiancé and an uncaring family.
    Both my middle fingers salute you

    Thank you for the spoilers @NohrNeir !!
     
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    I love the entire premise.

    Ofc, Villainess-Saintesses are not uncommon considering the entire Isekai-Villainess boom in fiction, but wow. Lina and Callis just took the Second spot for Most Punchable Couples under Trashta and Sovieshit. Imagine feeling entitled to all the affection in the world just because you're a Saintess, and that gives you the 'Get-Out-Of-Jail Free' Card to be a selfish ass who can do no wrong. Even Orihime Inoue, a crybaby kind-of Saintess with OP rejection powers, wasn't that bad. And she was kind of just...there.

    Praise Seria for her patience. I'd throw down with Lina on the first day. Or crack Lina and Callis' skulls together.

    Callis is a fucking idiot. Imagine throwing away a Villainess who "reformed" because she was in love with you (as per rumors). "It'S nOt ChEaTiNg, It'S mY dUtY!!1!!" bro, your duty was to be a loyal husband/fiancee/protector for your wife-to-be. You fucked up, and you let the chance slip by. Tbh, kinda thankful that Callis was weeded out as early: this would get a shitton messier if we got a Homewrecker "We're just friends UwU" Saintess or another similar person who made themselves seem like a hapless victim in the future.

    I honestly agree. I can't wait for karmic retribution to screw them over. Callis needs to be shunned by High Society and/or get his Title as marquis stripped or lowered. Lina not being able to return to her world, and bereft of her Saintess title: without 'Saintess' before her name, Lina's pretty much just a common kid with no common sense/knowledge of their world., and zero clout/power. Have the feeling she's going to spin Seria as the villain of her circumstance if that happens tho, lol.

    Tbh, I think one of the reasons Lina was attracted to him because looks + power. Kinda found it sketchy how she ditched the 2ML in the OG story like 'gee...sorry...thanks for everything!' kind of like how Ariel from 'When The Villainess Loves' seemed to react to the deaths of the 2MLs who had a crush on her. If she really liked Callis for who he was...why gun for the Duke? Why not live contentedly with Marquis Callis?

    Also: bet you the OG Duke may have not actually been in love with Lina. I recall that the North needed the assistance of Sterns. What if, in the OG World, Duke Lesche definitely didn't like Lina? Lina is a materialistic Saintess (lol) and with his wealth, it would be a piece of cake to give her shiny things. Lina helps, which lessens the manpower needed, and reduces costs in the north. Duke Lesche gets more clout and protection from Church Meddling. Win-win.

    Also, how fun would it have been if the OG novel was in Lina's POV entirely? That would make it a very biased book. In Lina's eyes, she's gotten all the luxury, adoration, and wealth she deserves as the Saintess. Duke Lesche views it very differently: he gets the labor he needs to keep his Duchy safe, and the Church at bay. And all he needs to do is just smile at an annoyingly vapid girl and compensate the people she irked/annoyed/caused damages to behind the scenes.
     
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    While I agree with most of your analysis, I'm not so sure about the OG ML. Unfortunately for our dear Duke Lesche, he is more on honor & everything than it seemss + MC in one of the chapters said that he fell in love (or smth) with Lina 'cause she "disappeared" for year (and everyone thought that it was OG villainess who did it) and he blamed himself for that. And when she "appeared" again he kinda confessed (or smth). So no, unfortunately, probably, he loved Lina (or some imaginary version of her).

    At least now he has our MC to fall in love with! Without some needy disappearence!
     
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    The novel is already being translated here https://rainofsnow.com/the-tragedy-of-the-villainess/
     
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    I feel as though since the Duke knew what to do that Lina in the first timeline had a better go with her sainthood powers. Now her powers are wonky. Now Lina isn't able to rely on the Duke and Callis gets to lead in helping her out.

    Reminds me a bit about La Dolce Vita de Adelaide where you have one reborn and the other just flopped right out of the sky. Ha the ML couldn't stand the FL in there too. I guess that's where the similarities end with just a few bits.

    I totally appreciate all the spoilers! Thank you.
     
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    LaDyViL New Member Staff Member

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    You know, people. Before you go blaming or insulting someone for sharing a link to the translator site, wouldn't hurt to check who they are.

    Here, a screenshot for the lazy peeps.
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    Yes, people. That person you just cursed is from the translation group who brought the translation to you. It's also on NU.
     
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