Discussion The Yuri Garden

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  1. Sabruness

    Sabruness [Goddess Shigure-Sama Religion's Founder-Pope]

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    In my opinion, i think in the case of NU it's less about sex and more about delineating between series that contain actual relationships between women as opposed to just novels that just contain ambiguous subtext. That's just my view on it though. Take with a grain of :blobsalt:
     
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  2. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Ophi-kun's Survival Teacher』

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    That was already known actually, Ai Chan mentioned it back in the threads to merge Yuri + Shoujo Ai and Yaoi + Shounen Ai into GL and BL.

    AFAIK, the only reason NU still uses the current genres instead of merged ones, is because genres are deeply ingrained into NU's database and it would be horrifically hard to change them. It's also why Lolicon Genre is still a thing. (it should at most be a tag)

    If you look at Scribble Hub for example, it uses GL and BL~
     
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  3. Ddraig

    Ddraig Frostfire Dragon|Retired lurker|FFF|Loved by RNG

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    We can always say transfer all shoujo ai novels from shoujo ai to yuri and then rename yuri while just, I dunno, hide away shoujo ai. If it cant be done directly, we have enough nuffian volunteers to get the job done.
     
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  4. Sabruness

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    i dont think a merge is entirely needed, even if the terms these days are practically interchangeable. Just rename Shoujo Ai to Girls Love. Surely they should be able to rename genres if need be?
     
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  5. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Ophi-kun's Survival Teacher』

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    I doubt @runsing would approve this, but feel free to ask if he allows it?
     
  6. runsing

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    just last week, i and few mods yet again challenged the final boss to get the genres merged/changed. all weapon and spells were thrown out. loli pics, parth selfie, bl game, you think it, we throw it. But alas, our supplies ran out, and the party wiped out. we failed for the nth time.

    tl;dr.. the genre will remain as it is for foreseeable future.

    #wewilltryagain...soon™
     
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  7. Sabruness

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    this...post...is.....AWESOME.

    Is it really that hard (functionally or shanghai'ing the final bossly) even to get a name change?
     
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    the latter. afterall, the final boss is the one that'd need to handle the former (function) should he be defeated, so....
     
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    Have you tried tentacles?
     
  10. Ubik

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    I have a sense of deja-vu in this kind of discussion. If I'm not wrong it n-th time discussion about terms and merging genres.
    Usually it leads to nowhere.
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    Especially after that.
    For me it's kind of... I don't know better term... schizophrenic when two sister(mother-daughter?) sites have different terms in genres mentioned. Especially when one person is responsible for both. Why not unificate them especially when you promoting one from another?
    Personally I like "Girl Love" term more as more universal.

    Now back to what cause that discussion:
    I saw that change couple weeks back checked something and leave it at that. It was kinda mistake. :sweating_profusely:
    The biggest problem not in that it's incomplete. Not that it has 75 chapters with years between each other chapter in final ark in raws.
    Biggest problem it has no yuri (lily) in tags at all in the first place. :blobdevil:
    So at least tag is questionable. Especially with TL and it's pseudo yuri I Chose to Fake My Death (brrrrrr it is still irritates me every time I remember it :blob_catflip: )

    Yes it's mistagg. That's why I don't like RRL tags :blobangery: (I Came Back In Order To See You has the same problem for example)
    Author mentioned that before, that it's original story with yuri harem, but MC will be part of it, not as lead one (like in Iono the Fanatics)

    If it will be another like "Girlfriends" then it should be left until completed.
    Some of manga in anthology were translated already they are not the best ones, as expected from anthologies.
    And dynasty started to remove them.

    As for the list. Saw it too today. Some of the titles on list are very questionable to even be a viable choice, so that was suprising for me. So just why not just add any title with girls there... :facepalm:
    Oh, and ANN there was new review in featured on Konohana Kitan that author counts as yuri. :blobunsure:
    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/konohana-kitan/bd-dvd-the-complete-series/.146637
    and oops you did it again? :hmm:
    at least you should left the music one...
     
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    I am a real clumsy person.
    I don't understand this series. Is it the translation or something ? Like suddenly she is summoned by a lesbian girl in a floating castle or some shit, only for after to be kissed by a guy when she is back on the ground.
     
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    we did. afterall, @LaDyViL was our party's main firepower (sorceress). and she already has two of that attached to her head. as you know, roaches can live for a week even after missing its head*, but even with that advantage factored in, we still loses.

    *the head has regrew, don't worry.

    that's exactly the objective of the raid.

    btw, that's the first time i heard of the word..unificate. i only ever saw its 'cate' cousin when reading xianxia. it starts with defe-
     
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    I only managed to read that till 17 chapter it didn't look like yuri at all. And it was more chaotic than reading MTL. :notlikeblob: :facepalm:
    Then I can only wish you well in future endeavours, it would really be nice. :cookie:
    It's a real pity that there was never seen word that started with "deli-" :blobwhistle:
     
  14. Moonpearl

    Moonpearl Professional Yuri Girl ❀ [Yuri Garden Creator]

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    Sorry for being quiet for the last few days~! I stayed at my girlfriend's for the weekend for a flat party and I'm still pretty sluggish/unmotivated after my return.

    Oh, yay~!!! :blobparty: Congratulations, everybody!

    I heard about the paedophilia thing from Ai-chan a long time ago, and it does make me uncomfortable. Just as you said, though, there's not really a solution for GL since we range from everything from yuribait to hentai and tend to use the yuri/shoujo ai distinction differently to BL. Although I think the tags on NU have stopped helping to distinguish between them too...

    Actually, maybe we'd benefit from a genre merge. Especially if we added a tag for pseudo-relationships/yuribait to cover what's "lost" from the shoujo ai genre. (Although deciding what's subtextual enough to deserve such a tag would be a whole other headache...)
     
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    My HP is still on red, would be awhile before we'd try that raid again. Besides, the final boss is busy with his concubine.
     
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    In raws there two more chapters from what I saw but no TL. TL Group is focused on Hino-san no Baka for now it seems. They get to lewd handholding stage there.
    I saw prologue and didn't know what to think about it. After from what I read and saw in 1st chapter I'm pretty sure that that it will be drama heavy.

    @Moonpearl, I forgot to mention yesterday and didn't want to make double post. Futanari no Elf has all it's chapters till 8 one restored.
     
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  20. Moonpearl

    Moonpearl Professional Yuri Girl ❀ [Yuri Garden Creator]

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    :blob_pompom: Hurray~! Now I'm tempted to re-read it...
     
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