Spoiler There’s No Such Thing As a Villainess Route? Not in My Book! | 悪役令嬢ルートがないなんて、誰が言ったの?

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  1. phamtasia

    phamtasia Well-Known Member

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    I don't know who is more f**ked up: her or the male leads. Perhaps all of them. :mad:
     
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    Viole1369 Immortal Ero

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    Ah
    Classic
    Another Garbage, not even worthy of dumpster fire.
     
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    No, it's the Prince
     
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    Alright... I reread the chapters. I made a few mistakes. Firstly, it's not the son of the gardener but the grandson of the gardener. Secondly, she was about to be kissed before they were interrupted. So, they haven't kissed yet. Sorry about that.

    Then, I grew curious again if there really isn't a good explanation for her behaviour because it's just too bizarre. It's not normal to be that accepting. After MTL'ing until chapter 24, I guess, I kind of get it now and more forgiving towards the MC and MLs.

    The world is bound to the game rules so it was really game-like.

    For example, by chapter 24, there is a kind of open tug-of-war on who could plant the right colour of flowers to help them with the goals. Basically it's a fight between Alicia and Gardener team versus Ophelia and Gardener's grandson team. If the flowers are black, then Ophelia has the chance to meet her fiance. The more flowers of her colour (black) inside that one flowerbed, the higher her chance to do so. When team Alicia completely replanted the flower bed with the capture targets' colours, the prince didn't get the chance to meet his fiance at all but constantly tripping upon Alicia.

    That is to say... unlike most isekais, they aren't completely free to do whatever they like. As such, their bizarre behaviours totally make sense. The capture targets are at most fishes or rather characters who are at the mercy of the players and the world. The MC, on the other hand, cannot bring herself to be angry and blame the capture targets including her fiance since she knew about the game and its rules and there's a high possibility that it's not the capture targets' fault at all. And so, there's literally nothing the MC could do but go for it (she wants Felix) and play the game according to the rules to get him.

    But again... I might be wrong since I haven't finished reading it yet and most of my info is from MTL.
     
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    Jesus why do they make women either vindictive and should be punished our a freaking doormat?
     
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    That's why i don't really like the story, I've said it before here that the target characters are in control by the game system.

    And Ophelia, the Mc. What is the purpose of her reincarnation?

    And also the heroine herself is also suspicious because she seems to know how to capture the targets and where she will meet them. Alicia is aware.

    It's like Ophelia vs. Alicia. :blobpopcorn:

    Even Ophelia won, The Game will still continue. It's true that Ophelia chose Felix as her target tho. Even Alicia chose Felix since in the very begining of the game. Ophelia is fighting because she doesn't want to have a bad ending. Just like the OG Ophelia got. So she's being friendly to all of the characters to avoid the bad ending. But nah Alicia is bitch.
    It's just hard to understand since we used google translator. :blobwoah:..
     
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    I read somewhere on top that the ml is actually
    Felix, the prince/childhood friend
    but I'm not sure
     
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    In some stories, it's just because the story is that shallow. The characters aren't restricted by the world but still acts like fishes. That's why I thought the same goes for this story. Only after rereading further that I realize that's not the case here. Though I have to wonder... does a a**h*** like Alicia exists in the real world? Have any one of you meet one? I'm just curious.
     
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    believe it or not, there actually are people like Alicia. someone who literally will do anything to get what they want. they will step on people and spread lies just to be "better". another type of person like that is someone who looks down on people to make themselves feel better, or feel like they're just better than anyone. those kinds of people meet people better than them or are the same level, there's a big chance the bad person will blow up.
     
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    LMAO I HATE IT!!!! THANK YOU GUYS HSHSBWUBSUS Y'ALL SAVED ME FROM READING THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
     
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    i should have not expect anything!!
    my... its really broke my expectation, how can-- just how?!
    first time i read it and i think it will be like 'I'm Not Breaking Off the Engagement' story. but, nah.
    did the story end already?
     
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    OK, let me try doing spoilers for what looks to be a big turd.

    Ophelia looks at herself in the mirror, aware that the school entrance ceremony marks the beginning of the otome game she played in her last life. As the villainess she faces two endings depending on whether the heroine manages to seduce the prince. Bad end has her being deported, while the good end has her spending the rest of her life in a monastery under house arrest. Ophelia decides to try to befriend the heroine Alicia, especially as she is in love with the prince, Felix. soon after they come into the class, Alicia sits by Ophelia and drops her pen. She then says that the pen is broken after Ophelia hands it to her.

    Ophelia says that the pen likely broke when it fell. Felix hands Alicia his pen to borrow, but Alicia acts like it's a gift he gave her. The chapter then discusses the types of classes, which rank from E (lowest class, worst and poorest students) to A rank (highest class, filled with the otome characters, royalty, and best students). Ophelia is fangirling over the classroom she'd only previously seen in a game and both she and Felix choose to sit next to one another. Alicia chooses to sit next to Felix, much to Ophelia's consternation. After homeroom Ophelia walks off with Felix, noticing Alicia's open jealousy. She and Felix go to the courtyard, which Ophelia notes is the scene of the first act of the villainess bullying the heroine. The scene required a lunch box, which she doesn't have, so Ophelia thinks that perhaps she'll be spared this. Only... Felix pulls out a lunchbox, only it's not very well made. Alicia then shows up and smirks at Ophelia, asking if she was bad at cooking, making a comment about how girls are supposed to be good at that, assuming that it was Ophelia's cooking. She sits.

    Ophelia chooses not to make a comment about it being Felix's work, as she doesn't want to hurt his feelings. Seeing that Alicia clearly intends to feed him her lunch, Ophelia asks if it's wise for a crown prince to take food from someone you don't know, as it could be poisoned. Felix is looking a bit down that his meal was insulted and Ophelia sticks up for his lunchbox. She then eats the egg, complimenting how it was made. Alicia apologizes. Ophelia notes that this is somewhat following the game scenario and that Felix says a line from the game, even though it makes no sense, as if he was being controlled. She then sees that Alicia made what appears to be Felix's favorite dessert and thinks that it'll continue as it does in the game, however Felix says that he wants to eat with Ophelia, which isn't in the game scenario.

    Ophelia and Felix walk together after school and are sharing a nice moment. Afterwards she goes to the secluded flowerbed in the back of the school. In the game there were freesia flowers in various colors, signifying the progress with each given character. The colors are as follows:
    • Felix: Red, easiest route
    • Liam: White, priest of the Son of God temple, most popular game character
    • Aaron: Yellow, playboy son of an aristocrat
    • Klaus: Purple, the intelligent glasses character
    Ophelia is dismayed to see that the red freesia is blooming. She encounters Liam, who is surprised to see her there. He goes to sit under a tree and Ophelia recognizes it as the event where the heroine meets Liam. Sure enough, here comes Alicia so Ophelia hides.

    Alicia comes, spouting lines from the game and watering the flowerbed. When asked, Alicia lies and says that she grew the flowers. Despite him being a little standoffish, Liam's flower blooms. Liam leaves, Alicia promptly leaves. Liam apparently returns and makes a joke? about Ophelia being a peeping tom. He expresses surprise that the flowers would bloom despite it not being in season, Liam doesn't really seem to care. Ophelia returns to her dorm.

    As the days pass Alicia spends more time with the capture targets, worrying about the game and losing Felix. She manages to spend some time with Felix and while they are walking, she sees Alicia and Liam together in the courtyard. Ophelia hopes that Alicia picks the Liam route (or any other than Felix, actually). Liam is indifferent. Felix is curious about whether Alicia and Liam know each other and decides to call out so that they're not all late to class. Alicia is happy, Ophelia is anxious, Liam is just indifferent. They go to music class, where the next event is to take place. Ophelia isn't good at singing, but Felix is. Alicia sucks up to him. There's supposed to be a class representative at the NYE party, which in the game was Alicia. However it's mentioned that Ophelia could sing at the event, Alicia seems to do her black lotus thing and says that as a Duke's daughter Ophelia should have a good voice. Felix says that he likes her voice, breaking the tension. Alicia doesn't look happy.

    Ophelia notices that Alicia seems to be approaching all the targets, apparently ending with the harem route. She thinks that this is stupid, as there's no system that allows a person to marry multiple partners. However in the game it's allowed because Alicia is the "Goddess of Freesia". Also, in the reverse harem ending Ophelia was put to death, making Ophelia super nervous. She also wonders if the kingdom would really be OK, as a commoner wouldn't be familiar with the heavy requirements of being a noble - especially royalty. It's not just loving your partner, but also doing what's best for the country and loving its people.
    Ophelia tries to spend time with Felix, but can't because he has other things to do. She does have his lunchbox, which shows an improvement in his cooking skills. She goes inside to try to find Felix, but instead sees him eating with Alicia, who is giving off a "he chose me" smirk. Dejected, Ophelia goes back to the classroom.

    Back in the classroom, Ophelia debates her potential endings and also notes that Alicia acts like she was bullied each time she runs into Ophelia, despite her not actually doing anything. Felix arrives and apologizes for not eating lunch with her, saying that he got lunch at the cafeteria. He then says "But for some reason I had lunch with Alicia, despite not being close to her", which Ophelia finds strange, like he was saying he couldn't control his actions. They talk about lunch. Afterwards Ophelia notes that there was a rumor among the game players that you could end up on a villainess route if you had the gardener replant the flowers in the flowerbed with black freesia. She debates about whether or not to try this. Alicia enters and seems to be bragging about eating with Felix. The students around her congratulate her, although with a confused expression. Ophelia gains a new resolve, not wanting Alicia to win.

    Realizing that Alicia as queen would be awful, Ophelia goes to the flowerbed to find the gardener. She finds his apprentice, his grandson Io, as the gardener is sick. She starts to befriend him and listens to him, which surprises him since aristocrats never talk to him. She asks him about the freesia colors, to which he gets confused. Ophelia also seems to be fond of him, in a younger brother complex type of way. (It's implied that he's fairly young.)

    Io says that the flower colors are a family secret. Ophelia asks about black freesia. He mentions black roses, which isn't what she wants but she goes along with it because she doesn't want to be mean. She compliments the black roses he shows her and Io suggests that she take some with her for her room. She hears Alicia squealing at Aaron, seeing her fawn over him as he's playing a game at the nearby training grounds. Just after Io gives her the black roses, Alicia appears.
     
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    Ophelia isn't happy to see Alicia, obviously, particularly as she asks if someone died after seeing the black roses. Ophelia corrects her. Aaron makes a flirty remark, causing Ophelia to think that Felix shouldn't have him as an aide in the future. Girls surround them and squeal at the cheese. Ophelia decides to make a flirty remark back to disarm the situation, which seems to make Alicia mad since Aaron accepted the remark in kind.
    Apparently Aaron has a sprained ankle, but no one but Ophelia noticed. She treats his ankle and Aaron reflects well on her. (This is unclear, as it seems to have been partially written from his point of view AFAIK using Google Translate.) He warns her that there's a rumor that she's fishing for men, which makes Ophelia assume that Alicia is spreading said rumor. He makes a remark about not wanting to show pain or discomfort because he's the third son (more to live up to?), causing Ophelia to have a better opinion of him.

    Yum, breakfast. Ophelia and her maid Karin talk about how stressed she's been lately, so Karin recommends going to the library. Ophelia goes after school and runs into Felix. He seems happy to see her, as they haven't spent much time together. Enter Alicia, who asks if Ophelia heard the rumors that she (Ophelia) was hooking up with Aaron the other day. She debates telling about the injury Aaron received, but chooses to remain quiet. She instead talks about how he was just complimenting the roses she had. Felix doesn't seem to take the rumors about her very seriously. He then asks Ophelia to take him to see the black roses, much to Alicia's dismay.
    The next day she returns to the library to read a book. She then remembers the start of a scene: Alicia is asleep in the library after reading a difficult book and encounters Klaus.

    Ophelia is tired of constantly running into Alicia. She greets Klaus, noting that he is studying difficult topics. Ophelia also notes that the queen education doesn't cover politics, since it's apparently a man thing only. She then notices that he has several books that she (Ophelia) would like to read. Klaus notices her gaze and asks what books she wants. She replies and he gives it to her. They talk about whether he likes studying, he says it's just an obligation. Ophelia looks at Alicia, who is asleep on Klaus's shoulder, and wonders how she can manage to actually sleep like that. She also figures that Klaus's freesia is likely blooming. Klaus makes a remark about Alicia being annoying or in the way (unclear, didn't feel like going back to investigate more).
    The book Ophelia wants is on flowers and water, specifically that flowers can bloom differently depending on what they're watered/fed. She decides to leave, as she can't relax around Klaus and Alicia like that.

    The following day Ophelia and Felix walk through the garden, their first date in a long time. They visit the black roses and Io. Felix thinks it's a waste that people avoid the black flowers and seems to fawn over how nice Ophelia looks. She suggests having tea together. They also plan to go to the garden again in the future. Io suggests that Ophelia help replant a flowerbed with tulips, so she and Felix do so and have a good time together.

    It's a holiday, so no classes. Karin comes with an invitation from Felix, surprising Ophelia. She's nervous to open it, as she recognizes it as the invite leading to the condemnation event. Ophelia goes to the flowerbed and sees all of the capture targets' flowers blooming, but no black freesia yet. She pressures Io for black freesia, but he hasn't been able to find any. She apologizes for pressuring him and reassures Io that she won't punish him. (She was really upset.) Ophelia debates trying to escape and become a gardener if the reverse harem occurs.

    Today's the day of the condemnation event, a tea party. She decides to wear black, which disappoints Karin since those can only be worn while mourning. She takes her time going to the event, but can't delay any longer. She also can't refuse since it was organized by Felix. Ophelia arrives and is really nervous. Felix says he has a story about his engagement. Ophelia notices that although it's the event in the game, the atmosphere isn't the same.
    Klaus says that Alicia is the Goddess of Freesia and that Ophelia should step down as Felix's fiancée so Alicia can marry all of the capture targets, including Felix. They make mention of Ophelia bullying Alicia, who of course pulls a "I'm so bullied" face. Felix starts to cancel their engagement, but looks really upset and unhappy. Just before he can complete his sentence, Io appears with a ton of black freesia. He then uproots all of the capture target flowers and replants the black freesia. Alicia is "What is this... I don't know what this means...".

    The entire flowerbed is black, making Ophelia happy. Alicia is throwing a fit. Felix then hugs Ophelia from behind and apologizes to her. He says he doesn't know why he was saying those things, along with that he was scared while he was saying them. (Implication being that he didn't want to say them but couldn't stop himself.) Ophelia accepts his apology. Alicia butts in and says that she's the Goddess of Freesia so Felix should be marrying her instead. She tries showing her mark, but there's no mark there. The capture targets, who now appear to be free of the game influence, start to turn on Alicia.
    Alicia is put on house arrest. The capture targets all apologize to Ophelia.

    The next day the capture targets are all chasing after Ophelia, which makes her uncomfortable. Alicia is given a fairly light sentence of only a month's suspension, however Ophelia notes that she's effectively unable to marry into nobility or the royal family now that she's not the Goddess, so there's a bit of an unsaid punishment.
    She and Felix talk, during which he mentions how confused he was about the whole event the prior day. Even if the claims were all true, he wanted to marry Ophelia rather than Alicia. He acts sweet towards her and she gets nervous about the idea of marrying him.

    Ophelia returns to her room, where Karin calms her down. Apparently Ophelia had never admitted she was in love with Felix, to which Karin said that it was always obvious. Also, since the event Felix calls her by a nickname, which she likes. The month that Alicia has been grounded/suspended passes by quickly, during which time Ophelia and Felix grow close together.

    The news that Alicia was pretending to be the Goddess has gotten around school quickly. So when Alicia tries to make a bright and sunny entrance, she's solidly ignored. The whole thing is watched by Ophelia, Felix, and Klaus. They're surprised that she didn't just drop out, which is what they would've done if they were here, and wonder if Alicia will try anything. Apparently everyone is starting to become aware of Alicia's true personality as well.
    Ophelia tries to meet up with Felix for lunch, but is interrupted like he was in the beginning. This causes her to think of Alicia. However the other capture targets seem to try to take the opportunity to claim lunch with Ophelia instead, to Felix's consternation. Lunchtime comes... and sure enough, Felix is with Alicia eating lunch. She returns to the classroom with Klaus.
     
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    During PE, Alicia is paired with Felix while Ophelia is paired with Klaus. After school/class Alicia goes to the garden and tries to get the gardener to replant the flowerbed with colored freesia. The gardener (the grandfather, not Io) is reluctant, but agrees.
    A few days later, Ophelia notices that things have become different. The capture targets have started to avoid her. She gets a bad feeling and checks the flowerbed. Sure enough, she sees the gardener replanting. Ophelia mentions Io, the gardener says that the flowers were returned to Io. Ophelia correctly assumes that it's Alicia's doing. She asks for Io's location.

    Io is next to the black roses. She mentions the black freesia. Io is disappointed over this and apologizes, but Ophelia says that it's not his fault. She asks if he can replant it, he says that he'll try. (Why don't you just destroy the damn flowerbed?) Meanwhile, Felix has noticed that he hasn't had many chances to see Ophelia while he sees Alicia everywhere, making him anxious. However he finally gets a chance to go to lunch with her, so he's happy. Alicia is monitoring Ophelia and Felix going to lunch, wondering why he didn't ask her. She tries asking the other capture targets, but is unsuccessful.
    After school Ophelia decides to start helping with the flowerbed. They go to replant the flowerbed. Alicia sees them and starts screaming that they were doing a terrible thing. She seems to be clearly aware of the flowerbed's significance, per Ophelia's observation.

    Alicia is horrified that they changed the flower colors after she asked for it to be changed back. She runs off to get the grandfather's help. He returns with her, holding red freesia (Felix's color). They start to battle for dominance, apparently. Felix arrives and asks if the black freesia was better than the red. Felix is given (or picks, not sure) red freesia. He then gives it back to Ophelia, asking if she loves him, effectively a proposal of marriage. She responses in the affirmative. She then remembers that the confession event in the game has the chosen target(s) giving the heroine the flower of their color. Now that Ophelia has taken the flower, it's her win.
    Felix asks if he can kiss Ophelia, however she says that they can't since they aren't alone. He asks what if they weren't. She said it'd be fine, but it's embarrassing to be asked directly.

    Ophelia returns to her room, she's on cloud nine. She thinks that if Alicia weren't there, they likely would have kissed. Ophelia then realizes that she's truly happy in the game world and that although this was initially a game, her feelings for him are genuine. The following day Ophelia is asked to perform the NYE song. When she says that her singing stinks, he says that they'll practice together so she gets better. Also, Alicia can't sing because she is known as the person who lied about being the Goddess of Freesia. At the day of the event she is nervous, but sings well alongside Felix and their performance is seen as a symbol of happiness.
     
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    At the end the author says that the web novel was cleaned up and altered quite a bit for the LN version, so there may be some differences. Offhand I hope that they made it more clear that the game mechanic was controlling the capture targets and apparently the school as well. It is displayed here, but it's not really clear enough for my tastes.

    Also, Alicia's punishment was a bit underwhelming. She's ostracized from everyone else and will almost certainly not marry anyone rich or influential, but that seems to be the only true punishment. I'd like to see her get sent to a monastery or thrown out of the kingdom. Or at least more of a dressing down by the targets. It was also unclear if she was also a reincarnation and aware of the original game. It's heavily implied since she was aware of the flowerbed.

    I also went and added these to the bot post, so people don't have to go to the next page if they don't wish to do so.
     
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    It's a fitting end nonetheless. Something like greed not satiated.
     
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    True, but I can't help but love the face slapping when it does happen.
     
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    Man, i hate it when Ophelia just accept their apology right away- i mean.. even i sometimes still salty with something that already happen few years ago- but yea even in rl theres alot people like that..
     
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    Wtaf? I have to say I love villainess reborn stories they are my shitty-latin-drama-you-know-it’s-bad-but-you-just-can’t-get-enough like Chinese manhuas. I mean when I want quality reading I just go and read a jane austen book or some serious stuff. But I just love this day-to-day trash. But after reading this spoilers. My god. This is way over my expectations. I would absolutely love a story where the MC is like “you wanna dump me? Well.... okay be happy.... I’m outta of here”. And sees from a quite place how they all their dooms day. Why can’t authors give us that? I mean come on villainess/reborn stories are pretty famous so al least of one good idea‍♀️
     
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    WTF, ML and other capture targets are so weak getting controlled by the system while MC is fighting alone.
     
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