Discussion in 'General Chat' started by pass1478, Feb 11, 2020.
The only lolitas I know are young adults who dress as Victorian children.
No, even if it's real, as long as nobody is hurt (physically and emotionally) then it should be okay
OP is asking if they're pedos though, so whether they are creepy is irrelevant to the question at hand.
I am going to have to disagree with you there. There is no such thing as real shit that didn't physically or emotionally harm someone, barring safe for work shit. All CP has victims, which is why it's illegal to not only produce but also to consume it.
Like if you're a pedo fapping to little kids in swimsuits...I guess, sure, no one was hurt, but still incredibly creepy.
A lot of double standards here.
Some agree with the concept of fiction doesn’t harm a soul but then again won’t condone rape in the same text. Just seems odd that pedophilia is an exception but others aren’t.
That's hardly a disagreement, didn't what I said imply that if there are victims then it's not okay?
About that creepy part, well, I find gays creepy, what you gonna do about that?
I don't think so. unless it happens to a real child as the object of arousal, I don't think you can classify it as paedophilia. It may be so that someone is only interested in 2D loli while preferring older sister-type character with big boobs in the real world and no interest whatsoever for real life child girl. Can you say that it is pedophilia? It is like liking older sister incest hentai while abhorring the real world's example, you wouldn't classify that person as incestuous just because he has real world sister right? Unless that guy done it in real life, of course.
Well... lolicon is still creepy though. I thought being lolicon is just being an admirer of the cuteness of a loli. but apparently the arousing part is what makes someone a lolicon huh. Then what about those who like loli but not get aroused?
Porn ≠ Real.
No, lolicon only apply for adult over 30, I am have middle school gf coz I too still middle school at that times so fine very fine, it would be disgusting if e.g. teacher x student, anyway as long as both not apart too much
IMO pedophile and lolicons are different to me. It may be biased but i think pedo’s are attracted to children with sexual intent while lolicons are attracted to children because they admire a personality of the kids being pure and carefree in the world(plus cuteness) which are not likely to be found on adults.
I mean in mangas and animes lolicons have a creed of “YES LOLI NO TOUCH!”
I think the Lolicon thing is related to the Japanese cult of cute, of everything kawaii. Children are kawaii, and it's normal to be overwhelmed by cuteness when dealing with them.
Pedophilia, on the other side, is a paraphilia, the pedophile feels aroused by children. They desire them in a sexual way. They want to fuck children. It's a strange obsession and desire, and there's a chance they were themselves abused children. Who knows what must happen to someone to them become such poor excuses for human beings...
Both pedophiles and lolicons have this thing for children. I think if the lolicon has sexual desires for the lolis, if he get aroused by them, then he/she is a pedophile too.
Spoiler: Charles Lutwidge Dodgson/Lewis Carrol probably was a repressed pedophile
Edith, Lorina and Alice Liddell, the Liddel sisters
If you like hentai with lolis or shotas I think you are a pedophile too. If the 2D satisfies you, I have nothing to say. If you can get your hands on a sex toy that resembles a child, I will find it creepy as hell, but would not care.
Spoiler: We want your love and body fluids
Now, if you act against a child, a real one, you are a child molester, you need prison and treatment.
Spoiler: like these guys...
TLDR; thinking of little kids as cute and adoring them is natural, even if they are 2D, but when you get sexually aroused by them (you... loli hentai), you are a pedophile, and if you sexually attack children, you are a child molester.
If we are talking about teenagers, then you are an ephebophile or hebephile. So many names...
I mean sort of, but then I have no idea what you mean by "even if it's real"....is my swimsuit example accurate to what you meant by that?
“Lolicons vs. pedophiles.”
SUBMIT THEM BOTH TO A NICE CLEANSING FLAME.
I don't know, I haven't run an analysis whether there is actual harm done or not,
But my point is, just as with gays, the only reason one could justifiably stop others loving whatever they want is actual harm done, not creepiness
Is it consider a crime if underage had sex?
Like most things: it depends.
As an Asian American, I may have a unique view.
You'll find Asians tend to look more like lolis than other races. I've seen 25 yr old Asian ladies who look like 12 to 15 yr old white girls. Legal lolis are mainly a thing in Japan for this reason. Look up Chinese, Korean, or Japanese real porn. You'll see what I mean.
Thus I think the hate is a bit overblown. I mean you can get jail time for pedophilia in Australia for owning Asian porn legal in the USA simply because they look underage to a white person.
I do have the stance of wanting to beat the shit out of actual pedos, but chasing Asian legal lolis and 2d are ok. After all 'yes Loli, no touch' is the otaku way. Little girls are cute to watch, and to be protected from scum.
If you feel sexually aroused when watching or reading loli hentai, then you are a pedo.
But they are attracted to little girls therefore pedos.
what about shotacons then?
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