LCD Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

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  1. Masukure

    Masukure Active Member

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    Then it seems you need to reread it then. This is from Makoto's point of view, prologue chapter 2, when he recieved the blessing. As you can see, he is still on Earth.

     
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    If my memory still works Tsukibro gave Makoto the basic blessing before sending him to Bug, after she threw him away Tsukibro came again and gave him max blessing(that's why he's resting) plus free pass to do whatever he wants.
    To those whining about Makoto not acting like a goody-two-shoes, he can exterminate life on Bugland and no Earth God would judge him guilty because Tsukibro (someone extremely important to most Gods) gave him free pass.
     
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    I reread just to be sure, but there is no mention of him recieving another blessing from tsuki. Tsuki only uses his power to slow Makoto's fall. As I quoted in a previous post, he said he was weakened before he even sent his consciousness over. During his conversation with Makoto as he is falling, his says that communicating with him is the reason he will have to sleep for a few hundred years.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    He gave a blessing, an ability for the new world, but just a seed, and then he brought his college fund from his parents, a store of power to fill Makoto's magic gauge.
     
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    Both of you are right, he was on his last fumes before talking with Makoto during the fall, and simply used a bit of magic to stabilize him after that Tsukibro gave Makoto the free pass, no extra blessing.
     
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    There is no mention of him giving Makoto any more power though (in either POV). He basically says not taking the heroes blessings into consideration, Makoto is the strongest, and with all the power his parents gave him and he stored up, his blessing will not lose to the goddess'.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    The blessing and the college fund from his parents were given separately, this was still on Earth though.
     
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    I compare the raw power of humans with a warrior carrying heavy weights on their body (Dragon Ball anyone?), they release it on Bugland therefore the higher specs.Makoto's training is brutal, even Tomoe ends up dead tired when she trains with him, so his specs are purely Makoto's own hard work and Tsukibro's blessing is still on an infant phase, Susanoo said he still doesn't understand Tsukibro's domain so you can expect Sakai's evolution.
     
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    My theory of why he can't use healing magic?
    It is because of his familiars. In the novel, he has mastery over all elements. In the early pages of the manga, he does not. He does not.
    He mentions how difficult some elements are. One of which is darkness. And who does he contract after that? Mio. And what is her main element? Darkness.
    Going further, at that point in the manga, he already contracted Tomoe and one of the elements he mentions he has an affinity to is water.

    Before contracting anyone, the only element he uses is fire, brid with fire element. None of his familiars has any relation with fire. Fire is his own natural affinity. What does this tell you about his personality? You tell me, it wasn't really my point

    Still don't believe me and say I shouldn't take this seriously because it was the manga? Well then, let us look at the novel then.
    It is mentioned that due to their contract, Makoto gains access to a portion of his followers abilities. Tomoe's ability to open a mist gate to Asora, Mio's incredible regenerative ability. And a certain degree of Tomoe's ability to read people. In fact once Makoto was in a near death state. They mention Mio's regen may have been a factor in his recovery
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    This is true, we've seen him use Tomoe's abilities, but they said he was still having trouble using Mio's. Mio herself had to heal him after the fight with Sofia, pouring her healing energies into him, or something like that, probably similar to how she feeds her kin but without the stabbing.
     
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    Don't take a god's words lightly. We don't see him give a second blessing but he did say he has permission to do as he wills and a seed of power that may become anything.
    Let us look at the Bug. You would think she wouldn't give him a gift at all BUT she did say, "don't put your disgusting seed in my perfect hyumans, just live in the wastelands and do it with the mamonos. And what was the result? An incomplete time before Babylon blessing where he can speak with any living being (and non living) except hyumans
     
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    Do you mind telling me where it said he had difficulty with darkness magic? I only remember the the scenes where he tested his affinity after contracting mio and it showed different elements floating over his hand, water and darkness being the greatest.

    In a way this actually kinda supports what I was saying about him being able to use healing magic. Isn't Shiki's specialty healing magic? He devoted his whole life?... Death?... to studying healing magic in the search for immortality (or something like that). Makoto should have gained affinity for it after contracting Shiki.
     
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    Shiki was seeking the secrets of the Graunts, and he gave Makoto more darkness, along with Earth element affinity, their affinity is obvious from their hair colors.
     
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    She does say she was giving him the blessing-
     
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    This was the manga. And he was making different Brids and he mentions a few he could not do.

    Also I don't remember whether Shiki had an affinity to healing magic. I know he could do it but you gotta ask whether his method of healing was really healing magic. I do remember he has an affinity to earth as an undead.

    And this isn't a response to you but I'll mention it here. Mio's method of healing Makoto was not healing magic. She mentions how difficult it is to do while keeping Makoto alive. Thus healing magic was not one of her affinities. What she was doing was supplementing Makoto's own healing factor by literally feeding him her own self
     
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    I remember there being something about saving his friends life. Also, I don't shiki has a strong darkness affinity. I only quickly checked the wiki (which I know is unreliable but I don't feel like searching for the right chapter), but it says his highest affinity is healing, followed by wind and earth.
     
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    His healing magic was real healing magic. I remember Makoto being surprised at a lich using healing magic... I'll try to find the chapter, though I'll give up in about 10 minutes if I don't find it.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    He said himself, that he has some skill with healing, but that wasn't his focus. I believe his friend was already dead when he started his quest for unlimited power, the things he studied as an undead have very little if at all to do with healing, turning animals into monsters, and unlocking sealed racial abilities.
     
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    Ok fine you found the exact quote and cleared one of my mistakes but it doesn't disprove my point that he could have gotten a blessing after transference.
    (But my impression was Tsuki weakening was a result of many factors:
    Opening a gate and connecting the two worlds(long enough for Bug to kidnap 2 other heroes before others noticing)
    Giving Makoto a blessing that wouldn't lose to the other two heroes given by Bug(he was expecting Bug to give him more than just an incomplete language skill)
    Slowing his landing with magic(just to make him feel better, since he would have survived anyway, what a true bro)
    Deleting his internet history(just a joke don't take this seriously this probably costed little to nothing honestly)
    And manifesting in the other world to talk to him)
     
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    Found it! Chapter 59! Its his specialty!