LCD Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

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  1. CountryMage

    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    That's a specialty, not an affinity, healing isn't an element, Shiki is an Earth type.
     
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    Also here is Makoto saying he has understanding of the aria and composition of healing magic, but for some reason can't use it. This is also chapter 59.

     
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    Shiki doesn't have strong darkness affinity. Undead is more closely related to Earth than true darkness magic which costs a lot of mana and he mentions is very inefficient in cost and effect terms.
    Mio actually has crazy high affinity to darkness, it is part of how she eats magic and why magic does little to nothing to her except as a snack. To look at darkness application, Makoto created pure darkness as an attack against Shiki and it literally ate away all of his magic attacks. It is literally a black hole for magic. Spending more mp to make than it consumes

    Kinda explains why she is always so hungry. Burning more calories than she consumes
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    Probably like I said, he is unconsciously holding himself back on healing, everything else will just work if he says the words, or has his armor make the form, but not healing.
     
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    Healing magic is an attribute, Makoto states it as such. And yes, attribute and element are the same, they have been used interchangeably.
    Why would he be holding himself back from using a harmless magic, one that he says he wants most. It doesn't make sense. Atleast the with the evil entity theory, there is a reason why it doesn't work. Who knows, maybe it could also explain his level not increasing. Maybe the entity is gaining the levels, but Makoto is the one being tested.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    The evil entity thing is just people trying to explain Chiya's vision, the quote was just posted look at what Tsuki said, he describes Makoto using Sakai while telling him it won't work until he gets to the other world, so that probably wasn't his blessing, not his given ability.
     
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    I think the author is rushing things and I feel like the some details in the past won't be mentioned but there won't be contradictions.

    has anyone seen the LN? I haven't read it, might switch to that if the story is different.

    The web novel of Overlord was a joke compared to the light novel...
     
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    After all this, I'm done trying to defend the theory, but I just want to say 2 last things.
    1. The way chiya described the thing inside him "It is something that shouldn’t have eyes to begin with. And that something is looking at the outside from within him. With great interest, it looks around restlessly". It's very much sounds like there is another entity within him.
    2. It would make the nickname "Devil" much more fitting.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    The way she described it the whole thing is Makoto, even the interior, he covers himself in a superficial shell, like most people do when they lack ambition. There was a crack in that shell, though, and she saw something peeking out of it, something that's always watching, seeing everything, seeing through everything. This does not mean that there is another being within him, it means there is something below his surface that sees everything around him, Sakai or his armor, would easily fit these descriptions, she doesn't have that info though.
     
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    The way Chiya sees things with her eye is quite biased, she sees Hibiki a dictator with a messiah complex as someone good but Makoto who is indifferent toward hyumans and extremely strong as an eldritch abomination.The thing looking from within him might be his suppressed anger, think about it, he took the bullet for his sisters and went to another world only to be humilliated and left to die by the same existence than called him, after that hyumans only looked at Makoto as a monster and Bug called him to a battlefield as a sacrificial pawn to save her heroes among other abuses.Makoto has more than enough reasons to hate that world.
     
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    Was it biased to see Mio as the calamity spider or Makoto with 3 chains and a bow ?
    I think that her mind's eye is pretty accurate given the fact that she even saw Mios love for Makoto.
    How should she even have a biased opinion of Makoto, someone she never saw before and has no impression of ?
    That's just making excuses
    And in which way is Hibiki a dictator with a messiah complex ? Hitler and Stalin were dictators
     
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    thanks a ton!
     
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    Just thought of another little theory, if true, I'm not sure exactly what it means. Its about the spaces Futsu prepared. Its recreates the place you wish for. That got me thinking.. Isn't that basically what Asora is? Doesn't it's appearance resemble that of Japan because he is homesick? Even the constellations in the sky match those of Earth. Asora seems like an advanced version tied to Makoto's soul.
     
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    Could be, or it could be the creation of all that energy Tsuki's parents saved up for him, all poured into Asora when he made the pact with Tomoe. That's why there are several extinct Japanese species there, along with a few mythological ones.
    Plenty biased, she saw Hibiki the same way as Makoto, and several other noname characters, but on her big sister Hibiki, that form is heroic and majestic, she even radiates the light of hope.

    Best example is Lime, she looked at him and saw all of his relationships, friendships and newfound family, but was taken as a sign that he is strong and supportive, a righteous individual. Like a big strong Oak Tree, giving shelter, while allowing a gentle warm light to filter through. Now, with our outside info, we know that she really saw Asora, Mondo's tree punishment, Komoe, and bananas, with Makoto's benevolence shining through. The world Lime wants to be part of, the people he wants to support, and the job he wants to be worthy of.
     
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    Attribute and element may be the same, but specialties are different. If I say my specialty is Origami, you can assume I mean folding paper, but it just means I can fold "things" into shapes.
     
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    Chapter 211

    Makoto isn't the most perceptive person but somehow he was able to tell, him and Hibiki meant different things by the words 'human and demi-human equilibrium'.



    Also I never really thought about this but Hibiki kept changing her views to suit their conversation, even though there was contradictions, to some it would seem like she is being more honest as their conversation goes on but in truth her views are being changed to suit the direction of the conversation.
     
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    Well I didn't noticed that, but Hibiki been who she is I can totally believe she would. That girl is a politician in the making.
     
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    if u guys haven't noticed it, hibiki is just trying her best to make makoto take her side. in her POV, it's already clear she cares for nothing but herself. in this sense, both heroes are similar.

    as for her changing her views, it's just lip.
     
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    I wondering how Makoto's return trip to Earth will play out. Him seeing the faces of the 2 girls that likes him when he was thinking of who he loved made me curious, but a bit worried. I'm hoping he doesn't add them to the future harem. If they were added it would just be for the sake of a harem and I don't want this novel to turn out like that. Honestly it would be really weird if he did, if they accepted sharing him like that, and they can't leave Earth. Its against the rules to intentionally take humans from Earth. But the way the author added the detail about them, as well as the Extras about them really... I don't know.

    Aside from who he will meet there, I'm also curious about who he will bring. His contracted followers are pretty obvious. Maybe a few other wives like the Rembrandt sisters if there is actually any progress. Who knows.. maybe Rona will come too. There is a theory she is his half-sister. She is about the right age to be the child of Makoto's mother and the demon she had an affair with. She has no horns, so she is likely half demon. She threw away her family name (according to Shiki) so perhaps she wanted to sever any connection to those parents, who if they are Makoto's, must have abandoned her to a demon village (since they couldn't take her with them to Earth, or even a hyuman town. They may not would have been able to stay in a demon village either.) It would be interesting to see how this would affect the relationship of Makoto and Rona. If this is true, how will Makoto learn of it? Who would know if it? Will the goddess mention it? Will he find out by reading through some records belonging to the demons (it was an official mission after all). He should know his parent's former last names since he researched into their past and found them to be Elysion adventurers. The only reason the demons wouldn't know is they think his parents would be named Musumi.
     
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    I agree with you here. I feel like most people (in general, not even a specific gender) in most 'modern' nations wouldn't be a huge fan of sharing their loved ones. Coming from a world like Bug's where harems are normalized they might not care as much (though I could still see 'harem politics' being a large issue if the members aren't close or if there are more than 4-5 of them), but I feel like it'd be a significant minority of people who would be willing to deal with that in most 'modern' countries. Especially if the two 'harem members' weren't pretty close friends beforehand.