Vote Manipulation by King of Gods translator

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Should the King of Gods translator stop rating manipulation?

  1. Yes

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  2. No, it's fine to manipulate the rating

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  1. Tiger2a

    Tiger2a Member

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    Here's what the translators wrote (seen this for many days now)

    gravitytales.com/2016/09/29/king-of-gods-chapter-71/

    Don’t forget to support me on: novelupdates.com/series/king-of-gods/

    -Every 50 5star ratings = 1 bonus chap

    -Every 20 5 star reviews = 1 bonus chap

    -Every 20 ranks KoG goes up in = 1 bonus chap





    It's okay to ask for rating and reviews. As long as the reader vote/review what they feel is right.

    But giving incentive for reader voting 5 star ratings will skew the results for all novels on Novelupdates. Making it seem the novel is much better than it really is. Imagine if more novels do this stuff. It will mess things up for everyone.

    I read the novel till the latest chapter (chapter 73) and it's good but it's not this good as the voting indicate.

    novelupdates.com/series/king-of-gods/

    Rating(4.7 / 5.0, 500 votes)
    5 83% (417 votes)
    4 7% (35 votes)
    3 5% (25 votes)
    2 2% (10 votes)
    1 3% (13 votes)



    So I hope the translator change this.

    Maybe change it to

    -Every 50 ratings (whether it is 5,4,3,2,1 stars) = 1 bonus chapter

    -Every 20 reviews (whether good or bad) = 1 bonus chapter

    -Every 20 ranks KoG goes up in = 1 bonus chap


    I would have no problem with that.
     
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  2. OverlyFriendly

    OverlyFriendly I should do something about

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    this is simply outrageous :mad:
    especially for those who want to check out a new novels


    @Shio @Nom de Plume @Parth37955 @Tony
    their thoughts are important!
     
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  3. The Mt.Tai

    The Mt.Tai Well-Known Member

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    Well ranking is already meased up becase we vote it by our taste and not quality ;)
    and then there are a lot of haters who go around and giving 1as score no matter what they read...
     
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    Skoll028 Member of DivineDaoLibrary

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    1. It's your opinion its not as good as the votes say (which is fine, this happens in a lot of other stories)
    2. He is giving incentive to give votes (never says they have to be good, i think?) and if someone has an issue with it, they can choose not to participate
    3. His translation, up to him how he wants to motivate himself to translate more, if it's really that big of a problem, someone would tell him to stop
    4. When checking out new novels, there is a risk you won't like it, such is life. Just because you don't like a highly rated story, doesnt mean it is bad.
    TLDR: No, it's fine.
     
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  5. Dace

    Dace Quack!

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    I dont care
     
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  6. DarkBlue

    DarkBlue «Darker Than Blue» «Overlord of Sleep»

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    adding oil to the fire, eh~
     
  7. OverlyFriendly

    OverlyFriendly I should do something about

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    nono
    their opinions actually really matter for something like this
    we are talking about our beloved NU
    and something like this is just... needs to be brought to their attention! :mad:
     
  8. Tor

    Tor Well-Known Member

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    It's actually fine, because the ones who actually like the story and want more chapters will go to rate it. Translators for God and Devil world did the same thing a few months back; they just asked for the overall rating to go past 3.8,4.0,4.5,4.8 for bonus chapters. It clearly worked, tons of rating for a so so novel by some people who liked it
     
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  9. Greedyspree

    Greedyspree 『Exile within the back room』

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    Id say he shouldnt be doing it, after all it just makes his ratings worthless now...that being said. It is a cheap easy way to get free bonus chaps, and when you see such a biased rating, any NU user who isnt brand new, knows to take it with a big spoon of salt.
     
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    Ace_online8888 Well-Known Member

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    The fact that people are willing to vote for them, means they truly want to read continuation of the novel. Therefore it should be alright to do this. If they did something like pay for ylthe vote or give something that has nothing to with novel as incentive, then I would be against it.
     
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  11. demonangelzero

    demonangelzero [Dandy Greeter] [World Watcher] [Bringer of Peace]

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    A sticky situation one that probably has kind intentions but ends up causing chaos.
     
  12. Rickymex

    Rickymex Well-Known Member

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    It's not fine. If a pizza place was giving out slices for 5-star Yelp reviews or if Trump was handing out 100 dollars for votes they would be wrong legally and ethically. He's not offering incentives. He's buying votes.
     
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    dude the rating system have been broken for months. this means nothing

    plus if you think about it people who want to read it and love it would 5 star it anyway
     
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  14. Tiger2a

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    Do you think the novel would get this kind of rating without the translator asking readers to vote for 5 star rating? I have no problem with asking for vote, just don't tell readers to vote for 5 stars and giving incentive to vote for 5 star.

    novelupdates.com/series/king-of-gods/

    Rating(4.7 / 5.0, 500 votes)
    5 83% (417 votes)
    4 7% (35 votes)
    3 5% (25 votes)
    2 2% (10 votes)
    1 3% (13 votes)


    And asking it on many occasions too

    Here's some of those occassions and I just need to go back 10 chapters

    gravitytales.com/2016/09/25/king-of-gods-chapter-62/
    gravitytales.com/2016/09/26/king-of-gods-chapter-63/
    gravitytales.com/2016/09/27/king-of-gods-chapter-64/
    gravitytales.com/2016/09/29/king-of-gods-chapter-69/
    gravitytales.com/2016/09/29/king-of-gods-chapter-71/


    change it to this and I'm fine with it:

    Every 50 ratings (whether it is 5,4,3,2,1 stars) = 1 bonus chapter

    Every 20 reviews (whether good or bad) = 1 bonus chapter

    Every 20 ranks KoG goes up in = 1 bonus chap

    but asking SPECIFICALLY for 5 stars rating and giving incentive to readers to vote for 5 stars is a No No.
     
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    Honestly it really is outrageous, but there's a but here, that's under the assumption that the ratings were actually worth something.

    Ratings are so skewed & pointless already that I honestly don't mind if they get fucked up even more in exchange for chapters.
    You're completely right, the translator is buying ratings. (Which should be a bad thing.)

    But because ratings aren't worth anything and are completely useless, it's more like he's arbitrarily giving out free chapters.

    Truthfully I'd say it's still wrong and shouldn't be ok, but benefits > morals.
     
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  16. OverlyFriendly

    OverlyFriendly I should do something about

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    It makes novels go high up the ranking without deserving it!
    and other novels that might actually deserve to go up there, don't!
    Even though it might have better translation quality, story, characters, pacing etc!

    plus this can encourage other translators to do the same :confused:
     
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  17. ultrafunfun

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    That's where you are wrong.He didn't say that he will pay money to who vote,so everyone will go to vote,but he said he will give chapters,and that means the ones who vote,and not everyone is getting something.And if you vote 5 stars ever just for the chapter,it means you like the novel:D
    And the translator doesn't really get something material from these votes,maybe just more people trying the novel...
     
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  18. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    it's not the first time asking for rating boost
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  19. kuroAnsatsu

    kuroAnsatsu Realistically Stoic

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    Rather than manipulating the ratings, I think it's more likely manipulate the bonus chapters.
    He's gonna add a bonus chapters, if his project's were popular. It's all depends on the readers anyway, whether they really like it or not. So I think there's nothing wrong with it
     
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    The moment it matters is when (if) the translator slows down the normal updates and compensates with these "bonus" ones.
     
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