Question What does canon fodder mean?

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  1. ohko

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    This is a kinda ignorant question, but what does "canon fodder" mean?

    I see it a lot, but I never really fully understood it. Thanks!

    Edit: I mispelled cannon.........
     
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  2. LysUltima

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    Civil War era term.

    You charge at enemy cannons, and half of the army dies. (but you take all enemy cannons, so it's okay)

    Hence the term. You are "food" for cannons.
     
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    I mean, I get how its used in English, but it seems like this term is used a lot in Chinese romance novels too.
     
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    Ah, like Doomed to be Cannon Fodder.

    It's just translated like that.
    Literally, Doomed to be Cannon Fodder should be Doomed to Be a Side Character.
     
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    Chinese romance novels? Maybe it's like a stepping stone or "mob character" rival or something.
     
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    You put a guy on the front lines. You know that guy's going to die, but you don't care, mostly because they're neither important nor skilled. Then the fighting starts and they die first, as expected. When cannons start going off, cannon fodders, being in front die first while the more important and skilled people in the back step on their corpses to reach victory.

    Early cannons did not lob cannon balls. Most of the damage was caused by the heavy cannonballs rolling on the battlefield and eating the legs of infantry or their chests if the ball happened to bounce.

    As for Chinese novels, it's just a commonly used term that it's easy to translate it that way.
     
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    Plot twist, the story is actually about two cannons falling in love with each other while eating spaghetti.
     
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    "Mob character" basically. Example: A backround character in a million dying from a battle between the protagonist and his enemy.
     
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    character that is easily disposable
     
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    Cannon as in Japanese manga aeans mainstream and fodder can be broken down into fod and der or FOOD and DEER.
    So it means, 'Mainstream/Popular food made from Deer meat.'
     
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    From what I understand, it's mostly the side characters who are going to die, or characters with a bad end. I think it could also mean something like a human shield, thoses who die for the development of the main couple or something along those lines.
     
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    Bait
    Sacrifice pieces
    Meat shield
    I got more meaning related to it but lazy to name them all
     
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    Close, but to be precise is just a target for the enemy cannons. When they trained their accuracy with the cannon they used a pile of fodder as target. Then the term begon to be used when they send infantery as a target for the enemy cannons in order to keep them busy or waste their ammo in them. It doesn't really have to do with taking the enemy cannons.
     
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    Ah, you must be new.
     
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    Extra characters like a side character or noble boy a
     
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    soldiers regarded merely as material to be expended in war.
    (From google)
    Basically a character that's expendable and isn't that important usually.
     
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    Some people already said it, but I'm just gonna confirm it in case you get confused by the trolls xD. Cannon fodder is a disposable side character in a story, only used to further the plot, but their fate is usually not great and the story forgets about them as it progresses. Arrogant young masters in xianxia are prime example - they show up, MC kills them, MC gets some treasure, move along, we all forget about that character or his name until his family shows up to get revenge and get destroyed by MC in return. After that, that character is forever irrelevant.
     
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    Thank you!