Question What does "nai wa" mean?

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  1. Authn

    Authn Well-Known Member

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    The google-sensei is silent... Just what does it mean?! "No way"? "Oh, well"? Or something along these lines?
     
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    Shance 『Trying to evade the wall in the front』『Failing』

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    Its, No Way, right? A japanese trying to say no way, with a skewed accent.
     
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    Something along those lines.
     
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    In Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? It's used as a term of disbelief like Noooo way ~~
     
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    strayCat0 What are you doing right now?

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    Why did they say "Nai wa" if they can say "no Wai"?
     
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    kumo chan~
    its no way.
    kumo chan cant speak english so she say nai wa!!
     
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    Nai wa is Na wa, you don't try to translate such holy words brought to us by Kumoko-sama. You just use it when shit happens and you want to run away.

    Like when you try to talk to a woman but then she's actually a trap. You shout "NAI WA" and run.
     
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    You are funny.
    I feel you can have a future here,at NUF.
     
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    'Nai Wa' can be used in different ways, one of those ways is to express disbelief like 'No Way!' or 'It Can't Be!', it can also be to correct someone like 'It's Not Like That' and more, if I'm wrong in any way please correct me. My understanding on Japanese is limited.
     
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    Spanner 『Devilish Wanderer』『King of Bad Decisions』

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    This guy gets it. Don't spoil it, just accept it naturally and go full weeb.

    Edit: Glad to see thar you understand that the dick doesn't makes it better. I can already see that you're a man of culture.
    Nah, he still needs a bit of chunni and bizarre flirting techniques to be successful.
     
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    To correct someone using 'Nai Wa' in a sentence goes like this 'Anata ga omou koto wa shinjitsude wanai wa' is one way
     
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    nai wa sounds like no way and indeed means no way
     
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    nai denotes something in the negative (like no or not) by itself, or turns another another word or phrase negative by ending with it
    wa is an informal sentence ender usually used by women (instead of yo by men)
    so "nai wa" is slang-ish (guys say nai yo, but you hear it most often as "nee yo")

    to be clear, I meant its informal Japanese, it's not horribly mangled English lol
     
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    As I understood it, that was Kumo trying to say 'No Way' in English and it ended up like that, so since it stood out in the Japanese text the TL made it stand out in the English text. Or something along this line.
     
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    but he has good starting.
    We all need to start from somewhere, right?
     
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    Nah, it's an actual short quip that's used in Japanese. Naturally the exact translation depends on context, but I've understood it as a "no way" similar to when you look at something scary or that you just don't want to deal with and go "NOPE" to. Something along those lines. (correct me if I'm wrong anyone :D)
     
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    Definitely means no way lol I think it was an adopted word into the Japanese language.
     
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    One should not attempt to understand the sacred scripture of the Goddess Kumoko. One should only learn its ways and worship her divinity. For example, if she commands us to jump, our thoughts should be "I must jump," not "why should I jump"
     
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    Nai wa in its literal would mean, [ is not, (wa)subject particle. ]

    Nai (to not exist) or the nai form of arimasen(negative form/masen). Aru or arimasu is the corresponding dictionary and masu form of the existence form.
    wa or ha is just a subject particle, used for separation in sentences that follows a subject or noun as an identifier.

    So she is literally saying "is not" or "can't be" or "not there" or "don't have". (Varies on context)

    Now why the author chose it in this manner is hard to say... In popular culture adding wa at the end of each sentence is seen as a more elegant way of saying it... ii desu wa... Or a way of being "cute" perhaps... Kinda like how you can see in some anime someone saying にゃあ at the end of every sentence or わん.. にゃあ(nyaa) is meow for a cat... わん(wan) is like woof from a dog for japanese. Which is why you might see some nekomimi cat girls saying nyaa at the end of every sentence and such... Same idea here.
     
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