Daredevil existed in the 13th century I thought high heeled shoes were an abomination but compared to lotus feet through foot binding , it seemed rather harmless I still maintain that the Manchurians were the better conquerors, no need for fighting, just walk in through the back door( thanks to Jin Yong for the history lesson)
You know that game where you close your eyes and shout "Marco" and then everyone else shouts out "Polo" and you try to tag them. Pretty sure that's the game he was talking about.
The khan was a drunkard , my brain stopped working when he took Marco to the moutain to meet the white wolf or some shit
The plot got a little stupid I agree. Season was better My favorite quote is still " I dont bed soldiers" FATALITY!! haha She was my favorite character, happy how she destroyed all the men who tried to control her. It did feel more like Eastern propaganda than a film about a European
There was always civil war. It is seemingly a prerequisite for Monarchy. That was why the Mongols were able to conquer China but Manchuria didn't use force so extra points for them They actually came as liberators and the people loved them
No use of force?, the conquest took 43years(65 if counting Taiwan) and many battles, just because a border garrison surrenders without a fight it don't make the rest of the war bloodless or turn the invaders into liberators. Not saying the manchurians was particularly bad or anything, at least they were smart enough to recruit chinese soldiers that had defected during the civil war, by the time they crossed the border about 75% of the manchurian army was made up of chinese.
I know about the later campaigns but comparing how Mongols took over China and how the Manchurians did. The Manchurians did a masterclass.
I find it strange to compare them though as the manchurians just took an opportunity to invade just as the Ming dynasty was being toppled by a rebellion and was greatly weakened from it, the capital had already fallen to the rebels before the manchurians could reach it themselves. The mongols on the other hand had to conquer four separate sovereing chinese states with intact armies and defences, including one state being ruled by manchurians.
I disagree, the Mongols were barbaric for lack of a better word. Many would say the Manchurians had luck but luck with the correct timing is a skill in itself. Grand scale battles with a lot of slaughter does not always equate to greatness The Chinese back door was opened to the Manchurians, there was an army there but the General did not fight but made a deal That is why it is ingenious, it was not that the Manchurians entered an unguarded gate.
That deal only worked because that general was part of the losing side of the civil war, and the manchurians was perfectly capable of brutality as well.
Kangxi might have been the exception, most monarchs are cruel. There are a lot of theories, one being that the General got his wife/object of his affection taken from him and he let the Manchurians in as revenge. The general was not in any way losing, just pissed off hence the timing of the Manchurians. Still my point doesn't change, to topple a country without using a sword that is ingenious, some historians believed that the Manchurians incited the civil war
That general was on the Ming side of the civil war and surrendered to the manchurians only after the Ming dynasty had fallen to the rebels, how is that not having been on the losing side before joining the manchurians? Again I'm not saying the manchurians didn't do something impressive but it was far from having conquered without the use of force, you keep talking about them coming through the back door without a fight when it directly lead to a battle.
I agree that Wu Sangui was on the civil war losing side. My main point was this: In old siege warfare breaking down a wall.fortress was pretty difficult as, you need double the defenders' soldiers. Without Wu Sangui there is a high chance that the Manchus would not have conquered China and like many conjectures that were made, the civil war was incited by the Manchus in the first place