Discussion What is the condition of teacher and students relationship in your country?

its not that common (in the civilized world), afaik,cmiiw, school shooting can be :
1. shooting people in the school complex
2. accidental discharge

 

In my country it would traditionally be like a sin to hit teachers. No matter the preventive system adopted nowadays, teachers continue to be ethically stronger.

I was kinda amused at the part "Student hits a teacher". I was like "what the?". And if the students are found to be smoking, drinking etc. and acting like delinquents they are promptly expelled.

Teachers hitting students mercilessly is what prevailed in my country though. Preventive measures and legal intervention have decreased this. But so far at least around me I have heard/seen no such thing as a student hitting a teacher around me. Though yeah, students do argue and disobey teachers and disrespect them right in the faces in other ways...


If you want to know about the positive relationship teachers and students have in my country then very well. In my country we celebrate Teacher's Day in 5th September. There's a saying which suggests Teachers are even more superior su Gods. It's obviously isnt that devotional, but still. I have personally always looked up to my teachers unless they were really bad at teaching...

 

Mhmm.. the worst thing a teacher has done to me is saying i'm a disappointment.

The relationship is? Will they still have some authority here unlike in america, like here teacher can take your phone until the end of class or school and such.

 

Yeah well not everyone can be a teacher but they let just about anyone become one, teacher should get more respect,authority,salary but also have a much stricter rules who can become one, same for police really when I think about it, well except for authority coz they already have that. We seriously don't want some douchebags or scum becoming policeman just coz they were looking for a job, or to get in and do corrupt stuff.

 

Old teachers are stricter : do something bad/against rules = either bonus hours at school or contact parents as a warning. If repeated the student is fired. Also bad grade = bonus hours too.
Young teachers are more casual. Get along with students. The lessons are softer, up to you if you want good grade, bad grade and you repeat your year as long as you need/want until you reach 2X years old(limit). Need an excuse if absent (can be made up)..
Teachers can’t be violent, they need self control. They can shout to scare a bit students. If violent student, self defense is allowed as long as he don’t go too far but usually they can use parents to pressure students and keep them under control.

 

Accidental discharge? So it mean gun was allowed to be brought inside the school premise, or there was no restriction by the country

 

can be guard/police, can be someone bring it despite the restriction, afaik school is no gun zone
like in our country, multiple acc. discharge in the airport

 

even passionate teacher can fall in bad school environment...... imho, fire bad teacher and bad staff, cut unnecesary spending

 

hee it's not more protected but more like human right wannabe activist blame teacher whenever they start act lil bit hard even just use strong words~ those salty parent start make ructus here and there while ignoring parent do have influence to their children which is sadly many parents still do it~ they think if they put their children on school then all done~ add with really lack on education department policy toward such thing~
you know our country
new minister new curriculum lul

sure sure it's not era teacher hitting some student
as teacher you can scare them with your power which is
really low score huehehehe to point say goodbye~
too bad idk about today curriculum
actually da children can sued with similar law tho even if they are under age~ it just they have less jail time if proven wrong oh also school which kick student out have ability to give really bad recommendation to new school about student behavior~ but it rarely used tho~
I assume you are high school or middle school teacher cuz on elementary not so bad~
real problem is society who not really care about education~ similar with parents who think their children all good and just leave them to school then all settled

this is why I don't wanna be a teacher since young age
too bothersome

be strong~
being teacher is one of hardest job on the world
why?
just ask any parent who teach their children to behave~ they just have some children while teacher may have thousands of them on their live~

anyway~
lets beat some brats!
not literally~

 

Yes, I'm junior high school teacher ( quite surprised you use middle school term as it's not a popular term in indonesia )
And yes it's really hard being a teacher in current time, you're not supported by your own education ministry , hell our minister even have enough gut to tell it's partially the teacher fault when video of a student hitting and threatening the teacher become viral

 

word count
junior high school 3 words
middle school 2 words

oh also there new rule about accepting new student

 

What about word count ?
Yes, it's quite problematic system in rural area or small region as usually the closest school from their is a school with bad quality in term of physical appearance and environment, the good school always located in big part of region like the town part

 

I'm lazy to type

for environment such as bad society I don't think so case to case imo~ if it mean it location or accessibility such as the road to school is bad enuf sometime dangerous even for adult then I agree there many case of it
this lead to less teacher who want to work on such place which is imo quite logical~ some place even have no new teacher applicant for years lead to huge gap teacher disparity between city and rural area on general not counting specific teacher for various field~

another problem with so few civil servant teacher it force school to hired contract teacher(idk correct term for it on english cuz I think freelance not quite right), with meager payment cuz idk where da source for it payment beside tuition and several government hmm allocation(?) for school program~ sometime those contract teacher have pretty low respect given to them despite they may have longer work hours and wider class to teach~ both among school staff and student~

what sad situatiom

 

The main problem is our education minister is too rushed to aply this system, no trial or socializations, you know when curriculum 2013 is proposed government give one year for socialisation and still give choice to school choose adopted curriculum 2013 or not for the first year this system implemented besides of the school that chosen as model

 

The Department of Education(Elementary to High school Department) of the Philippines decided that all schools are required to pass every student unless they do a crime. So basically every teacher in my country are blackmailed into that system, failing to comply with that system will destroy the reputation of the school and probably the career of the teacher.

 

oh seem not really different than previous minister
oh wait I have big hope for previous minister until he made crazy online natinal exam

 

It depends on which part of America are you in. Where I live, Teachers are well respected. They make decent living. They won't go hungry, but they also won't be rich. The Teachers in my community are activists and very vocal about their wage--especially when it is about wage cut. We had a teacher march this past few years because there was things going around The Teachers' wage will be cut or something or that nature.

But I had heard that far East, toward the other shinning sea, there were very bad schools; where students have no respect for their teachers. There was a release of the school board conference where a teacher stood up and said she had enough. She resigned and gave a very long and sad description to the board about bad students infringing on the rights and safety of Teachers and good students.