Spoiler What's your opinion of ATG?

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  1. Suijin

    Suijin Blood God [Medic]

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    wait a minute.. parth started a hate tread!? WHAT SORCERY IS THIS!?

    Also, the romance in this is really fcked up. His brainwashing of Cang Yue, constant harassment ¸of her and sexual abuse. Not only is it sickening, it made me vomit because it fucking worked -_-
    The plot is always the same, the amount of "mysterious" experts coming out of fucking nowhere and becoming his enemies is too many to count.
    too many things piss me off.
     
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    Noveleater Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean about brainwashing?
     
  3. Nefasdetestasti

    Nefasdetestasti ❄️Wɪɴᴛᴇʀ's Sᴏɴɢ❄️ ||| [Schrödinger Pantsu]

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    :unsure::unsure:
     
  4. Suijin

    Suijin Blood God [Medic]

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    not literal brainwashing. subtle one. "oh I'm kind" "you can't do it without me" "you love me" etc. he completely abolished her will and implanted "love" in her. for his own gain to have her.. if that's not brainwashing then kill me now.. IF YOU CAN
     
  5. Slimikyi

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    Personally, I can take a lot of non-sense. I really can. Well, maybe not. Lol

    Point is, I really hate it when the guy wrote like five different subplots that are co–happening and the subplot he is writing about isn't going anywhere.

    You have one waifu who was pregnant and missing.
    You have one waifu who wants to ascend and is a target for rape.
    You have one future waifu who is also target for rape
    You have one waifu who has her country in flames
    You have one future waifu who is the most useless queen ever, just waiting to be f***ed by MC (currently on this)
    You have one under aged waifu who has been waiting for years and the time is already up, promise is broken

    I don't know if there are any other subplots but isn't that enough already? The guy just leaves everything hanging, unfinished. And as you can see, each subplot revolves around a girl. They girls are nothing more than a tool that is extremely shallow and lack any depth.

    P.S. I do mean it when I said the Queen is waiting to have sex with MC, the guy said so already. She is gonna die in flames and stay incredibly weak if she doesn't have sex with the MC.
     
  6. Arua

    Arua Umu...~

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    My opinion about ATG, it's the most overrated xianxia out there.

    There were 3 points that made ATG fun for me.
    1. The action.
    2. The proactive MC toward female characters, the fact that he was openly seeking a harem actually made it less annoying than a MC who keeps having girls falling for him but stay his hands for no relevant reason.
    3. The MC being cunning, calculating and smart.

    First point, like in any other xianxia, the action turns out repetitive and any supposedly surprising turn of events ends up foreseeable. This is almost as bad as PMG on this aspect and the author doesn't even seem to try making it less obvious.
    The last two arcs and the one who'll be following are proof of that. One tournament followed by a fanservice break followed by what will most likely be another tournament.

    Secondly, the proactive MC turned into the worst kind of MC using any kind of opportunity to take advantage of women. This is something that can be fine in some cases, like in LLS, because it's counterbalanced by a comical aspect (the girls being aware of the MC's mindset and taking advantage of him in their own ways as well).
    In ATG however, we end up with this manipulative MC who cheat women into falling for him. The way he behaved with Cang Yue and managed to become the only person she can count on was a pain to read about. Chu Yuechan was an even worse development. She was that strong female protagonist, respected by a whole Empire, admired and feared by many. She slowly grew fond of Yun Che but still had strong defenses against him. She was able to reject his advances both mentally and physically. Then, the author chose to rush it and put her fate in Yun Che's hands, literally. For what purpose? To get his MC laid.
    The other women have it even worse, be it that 10 y.o. girl or his aunt.

    Third point, the cunning and smartness of Yun Che. After he received the phoenix bloodline, it just went downhill. Yun Che used violence before that but the author just chose to emphasize those parts after that point. Yun Che turned into your average brainless MC who solved any issue with beating people, regardless of their backgrounds or the situation. The quirk who made this xanxia unique was flushed down the toilet to provide flashy beatings scenes every few chapters.

    Last but not least, the worst part of this novel. This is something I also dislike with other novels actually, like ISSTH, DD, BTTH or IET's work: the fanbase.
    You can't go and say you disliked something or that a development disappointed you. Because they like the novel, people go and defend every single part of it, even the worst aspects. What happened to Chu Yuechan is the perfect example of this.
    Just because they like ATG and they enjoy ATG, people go blind to the fact it was rape. They like the novel and the MC so they don't want that label to be put on them. Consequently, they try to use excuses like mutual feelings and love to justify what happened.
    The last chapter is another example. It felt like the author just didn't know what to do in order to make it interesting so he brought about that situation where Yun Che found himself with the opportunity to molest those unattainable beauties.
    And it worked. Every single horny male out there went all apeshit about their beloved SMOOTH CHE shit.

    So, to conclude on my opinion of ATG? It was fun. It went downhill. The author chose to satisfy his horny male audience with softcore porn. Moreover, the plot isn't going anywhere and everything looks out of place. All of that makes the usual flaws of xianxia stories even more annoying.
     
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  7. akki

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    Overall I do not like it. But it's something to read. Though I do skip the majority of the nonsense bits
     
  8. VixenKiss

    VixenKiss Machiavelli the Princess

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    Agreed. I guess the mods here operate differently than most places.
     
  9. Greyue

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    Strength is everything in their world. To have all profound venes unlocked is like a blessing,
    maybe even a dream for everyone . Noone has achieved that besides Yun Che.
    I wouldnt be surprised if people would beg him for years just to get all profound venes unlocked.

    So i think that some 15 min. back touching is totally worth it. You will be much stronger and your future
    is secured. If i was a fairy there in a place like that, i would go for it. Who cares, 15 min.>Better Life.

    You can protect your friends and family, you can save more people and so on, strength is, as i said everything there.
    So saying it's "molesting", i dont agree. The gift they get is clearly much more worth
     
  10. Parth37955

    Parth37955 NU #3, [Dead Inside], Mid-Boss, Dark Dealer Staff Member

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    ...well I am also a user of the forum. If another mod feels justified, they can lock it.
     
  11. Arua

    Arua Umu...~

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    You're a mod so you can't have an opinion anymore. Become a bot ffs. Wasn't that in your contract when you signed for it? You got cheated.

    Note: That was sarcasm.
     
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  12. VixenKiss

    VixenKiss Machiavelli the Princess

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    No one is going to lock it, as it's ostensibly a 'discussion'. In reality though, this thread is just a place to post hate comments, and complaints about how wrong or flawed the novel is.
     
  13. Parth37955

    Parth37955 NU #3, [Dead Inside], Mid-Boss, Dark Dealer Staff Member

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    I did change it to an opinion thread. It was my fault for starting it as a hate thread, but it isn't now. I'm telling people to post whatever they feel. If people are posting hate comments, that's fine because that is what they feel. If you like ATG, post your opinion about it.
     
  14. Rreelentless

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    did he have to unlock ALL of them?
    he could have just has easily opened 10 and he would gotten the same reaction. remember that there was that one doctor who could do 8 and was seen as godly
    and he can literally do it in one sitting in a few hours over the clothes with acupuncture.
    he makes it a point to strip them and take days "sampling them"
    so yeah molesting isnt the best way to put it as it implies force but still
     
  15. Greyue

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    Hmm why should he be stingy with them? It's the clan
    1.: his wife belongs to
    2.: his son's mother's sister belongs to

    Dont see anything wrong with powering them up ^^
     
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    step by step process happens
    1. people see how they got so strong so quickly
    2. ask questions
    3.?
    4. not profit
    you get the idea i just wanted to add the profit thing
     
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    I get what you mean but in that chapter he also opened up was sincere and said he acted that way in insecurity due to the difference in their status that as an example runs far to contrary to him being dominant over her
     
  18. Parth37955

    Parth37955 NU #3, [Dead Inside], Mid-Boss, Dark Dealer Staff Member

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    The thing is...I never really felt that he felt that way before he brought it up. He seemed pretty confident up to that point.
     
  19. Kuro no Maou

    Kuro no Maou BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

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    Did you know? People have different opinions about different things. If you like ATG, there might be others who don't.
     
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    Kuro no Maou BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

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    Sure, because he couldn't think of another way to be compensated, right? After all, he only has 10 people in his harem, so why not get more?
     
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