When a protagonist loses plot armor

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  1. Grenore

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    Let it lose, and continue. For example: just listen to let it go and do the follow up........... :ROFLMAO:
     
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    The MC could die and the story continues from another PoV, or there's multiple main characters from the beginning (kind of like GoT).
     
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    Ziavory Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the review.
    Now that you mention it, the titles do seem more like click bait.
    I appreciate you giving the story a chance, you advice has not been read by blind eyes.
     
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    My disciple died yet again would like a word with you

    though that one probably has a form of plot armor too...
     
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    GDLiZy Wise Deepsea Mermaid

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    Depended on the story, for example, the protagonist can die while his child continued his journey. Or just that the protagonist left with only his life but lost everything he loved. Family and lover could die while leaving the MC alive.

    Plot armour is when the author ran out of idea and pull shit out of their ass to save the mc without requiring the effort of the mc himself.
     
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    @Astaroth, @Ziavory
    • It can also be like the case of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, where the "MC" keeps changing when they either die or author changes the universe.
    • Or the case of the Dune Series. Cough Vorian Atreides -> Paul Atreides -> Leto II Atreides -> Duncan Idaho.
    @Ziavory
    But whatever you do, please avoid doing the following:
    1. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...mcs-cultivation-level-for-400-chapters.75883/
    2. https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/its-so-obvious-its-stupid-author-word-count.77479/
    3. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...e-on-waifus-and-hide-behind-plot-armor.83883/
    4. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...urning-mc-from-alpha-male-to-beta-male.69868/
    5. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...-sandbox-exploration-inv-slice-of-life.83517/
    6. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...prove-readership-when-does-it-backfire.83212/
    7. https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...ogues-monologues-daydreaming-sequences.82738/
     
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    Just write fking protagonists. Thats all im asking for at this point.
     
  9. Sir Koopa6000

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    *Reads title* well, nice not knowing ya
     
  10. Lukha

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    Honestly, could sound interesting. However, I rather doubt that the protagonist actually loses plot armor because if he actually did, he'd probably be dead at some point. Considering if you wanted to add action or something into the story, and by glancing through the comments, it seems like there's quite a bit of action.

    You'd have to be able to balance realism but maintain the excitement of keeping readers intrigued. There is quite a bit of expectation to having a character "lose plot armor," so I assume there's hopefully going to be quite a bit of tragedy as well because a protag losing plot armor definitely is going to mean suffering for the protag.

    However, just glancing at your tags "Action, Adventure, Comedy, Fantasy, Slice of Life" actually seems to contradict everything I just said prior. This makes me doubt that the protagonist actually loses his plot armor, but nevertheless, I guess what you're trying to go for is a more comedic route of "losing plot armor" in which the protagonist will go through quite a few funny situations because he does not have the typical plot armor that a normal protagonist would have. Reading the summary to your story, it's a bit confusing, but I get what you're going for.

    While I am doubtful the protagonist actually does lose plot armor, hopefully you can balance the comedy while still showing the lack of plot armor for the protagonist. Good luck to ya!
     
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    Earth Final Conflict
     
  12. Snipetress

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    Sounds great from the title. If you can make the protagonist actually grow and progress like regular people do, that would be great. I would definitely love to read that. But just like how you dont want plot armor, you dont want anti-plot armor either. It would be quite weird if the MC suddenly gets thrown into every single bad scenario out there.