Discussion why do, Chinese protagonist almost always have a cheat or something.

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  1. undead292

    undead292 Active Member

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    Like the title said, why do, Chinese protagonist almost always have a cheat or something.
     
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    The majority of all fantasy (eastern or western) main characters have a cheat of some kind though? If it was about random villager A who decided to defeat evil and then got killed by a wolf, then the story wouldn't be popular.
     
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    Because their know that without cheat their just an normal MC or more like side characters that will die only in few chapters.
     
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    Because they're power fantasies, and in order to have the MC grow in power they must have cheats. Well, there are some exceptions, but it's hard to write an MC that gets more powerful/is powerful convincingly without giving them cheats of some kind.
     
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    What kind of protagonist is without cheat in eastern fantasy?
     
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    Because they can't fathom a well-written character that can overcome their adversaries without some overwhelming competitive advantage.
     
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    I had read a lot of good novel without cheat like Sevens, Dungeon Defense, dungeon battle royale, and more.
     
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    Depends on the novel. If it's cultivation/fantasy/survival/etc, they have a cheat so they can grow powerful and survive/defeat enemies, etc., usually (though that's not just CN novels, that's pretty much most novels of that type, regardless of language). It's what sets the protagonist apart from say, a random cannon fodder.

    If it's a modern romance novel or something with nothing life-threatening, they don't usually have a cheat.
     
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  9. Marvin

    Marvin The Man who realize love

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    Why do you post this questions even if you already know the answers?
     
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    I felt like it, and i am bored.
     
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    Even Harry Potter has cheat.
     
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    Do it?
     
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    Mr Popo A genie that don't grant wishes

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    Try "The King’s Avatar", MC is a good gamer
     
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    I think the whole HPverse magic system it's a cheat by itself.
    Say [Insert Spell Name] without knowing the meaning behind or the power source of said spell boom you already can use that spell. Damn even Goku at least trains...
     
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    ???
     
  16. undead292

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    Like what cheat?
     
  17. Marvin

    Marvin The Man who realize love

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    Well, thank you for your honesty

    even though he is still a boy he got wand while Dumbledore got a staff
     
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    Beer_Kitty Just a very very drunk kitty that likes beer

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    Isnt all fantasy stories like that??

    Example:
    In HarryPotter, why the hell is a newbie in magic becomes a somewhat genius. The side characters are more realistic tbh. Like Ron or even the fatty that fucks up everytime he uses magic in book1.

    Its because a story is boring if theres no leverage of making someone whos not a fighter or hero to become the hero in a somewhat unrealistic unfortunate event.

    Goblin Slayer is much better tbh. Like, he prepares for everything possible. He scouts or checks everything before plunging in in a cave.
     
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    Well that’s what Marry su protagonist do.
     
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    I think people in the thread fail to realize plot armor, talents, luck, etc. are cheats as well. Let's face it, any form of "effort" that the protagonist puts in order to gain something is pretty much given by the author. A side character would never achieve the same result with the same amount of effort.